I'm a second year Lawyer at Cambridge. I found last year very tough, but somehow managed to get a 2.1, like most people. It is difficult, there is way too much to learn and we do get set far too much work. I'm the worst person in the world to give "advice" since I can't really cope myself, but the best thing to remember is that everyone is in the same boat, feeling the same pressure - so it's easy to call on people for support. Preparing for supervisions takes the most time for me, since I like to go in feeling prepared (overwise I'm a nervous wreck) - you'll find your own way to deal with it. You study four papers in the first year (criminal/constitutional/civil/tort) and have 2-3 supervisions per week. If you work well under pressure, you'll be fine.
Thank you jcb914! Yeah, what you've said makes sense, I guess I won't know how tough it is unless I actually experience it myself. Quick questions though - I come from a North American system - when you say 2.1 are you talking about GPA like out of 4.0? (I probably sound like an idiot right now..) As for supervisions, how do those work?
Some people work all the hours possible others get by on a lot less. With a lot of subjects there is always something else you could have read and thus you can never 'complete' the work. However lots of people manage pretty impressive extracurricular things. Rowing for a 1st VIII will require 5-12 training sessions a week depending on the college. Others spend a lot of time editing or writing for papers and others spend most evenings in the theater or doing music
A 1st VIII? Hell, I row for a 3rd VIII (well, did, last term, I don't know what boat I'll be in this term) and I do six sessions a week.
Time management is a big thing - most arts students (well, english/history anyway) don't really have any NEED to work all night at any point, they just do so because they suck at working productively during the day in my experience.
which might be important for postgraduates, but not really for undergraduates
What makes you think that? It is important for undergraduates, too, to be taught by people who are at the forefront of research in the area. It even forms part of most university ranking tables.
What makes you think that? It is important for undergraduates, too, to be taught by people who are at the forefront of research in the area. It even forms part of most university ranking tables.
*cough* That doesn't automatically mean it's important, though, does it?
To be fair, undergraduates will mostly be taught the more or less basic stuff, so even if their tutor does happen to be at the forefront of research, it probably won't usually have much of an impact on undergraduate teaching (except perhaps in the final year, when people get a bit more specialised).
A fair bit of first and possibly second year teaching is done by doctorate students rather than the fellows/professors themselves. Though this is highly dependent on the college/course.
*cough* That doesn't automatically mean it's important, though, does it?
To be fair, undergraduates will mostly be taught the more or less basic stuff, so even if their tutor does happen to be at the forefront of research, it probably won't usually have much of an impact on undergraduate teaching (except perhaps in the final year, when people get a bit more specialised).
Hehe True. It can be important to understand the research set-up, especially in science departments, before picking your course as it can strongly affect the modules you are offered.
which might be important for postgraduates, but not really for undergraduates
well-written and logical, yes, but i dont think they really care whether it's innovative. you're not doing research
I think its important for undergrads- it makes them more authoritative to start with, and teachers who are constantly working are themselves progressing in their field, which means they will be a lot more enganged with their subject than if they were just required to know the material they taught in undergrad courses
I would have thought innovation is an integral part writing good essays- their whole ethos seemed to be that they want their students to think for themselves.
Thank you jcb914! Yeah, what you've said makes sense, I guess I won't know how tough it is unless I actually experience it myself. Quick questions though - I come from a North American system - when you say 2.1 are you talking about GPA like out of 4.0? (I probably sound like an idiot right now..)
Apologies for all these questions!
A 2:1 refers to the class of degree:
* First-Class Honours (First or 1st) * Upper Second-Class Honours (2:1) * Lower Second-Class Honours (2:2) * Third-Class Honours (Third or 3rd) * Ordinary degree (Pass) * Fail (no degree is awarded)
If I only had one essay a week I'd be happy I'm about to start my second essay this week now, and will be set another one on Tuesday. Not only that, I'm doing a Russian GCSE course in 8 weeks. If the terms were any longer I'd burn out completely, I'm already knackered!
Hehe True. It can be important to understand the research set-up, especially in science departments, before picking your course as it can strongly affect the modules you are offered.
Fair enough. I'm did a humanities subject, so I don't know very much about how these things work in the sciences. For my subject, though, I'm not entirely convinced that being taught by the world's leading expert on the social significance of cheese in the works of [insert name of obscure female 18th-century poet here] would have given me a significant advantage...
I would have thought innovation is an integral part writing good essays- their whole ethos seemed to be that they want their students to think for themselves.
Think for themselves, yes, but "innovation" is perhaps slightly too big a word for it. After all, let's be realistic here: it's kind of unlikely that you'll revolutionise your field through essays you write in your first year.
Seriously, if I had only one essay a week, I'd be ecstatic! Generally I have 2-3 a week, plus instrumental practise and harmony work. In fact, I'm pretty sure there was one week in February or something where I had 4 essays in one week
If only I had one essay a week...
I only have one essay a week all year, I think, except for three weeks (two this term, one next) where I have two.
Here at Lancaster we have three 10 week terms although all my lectures/seminars stop at about week 4 of the last term so I guess exams must start then. Glad we get the four weeks off at Christmas and Easter but it feels like there is still a lot of term left before the holidays .
Well, I assume I only have one a week. Definitely do this term, but next term I might get taught in-college for a paper and it's plausible that my tutor will be mean and set more...but I think I'm going back out of college in the third term so I'll be free of Merton workload insanity again.
Lol at Surrey our first semester is 14 weeks long with no breaks unless you do a course which needs a reading week, weeks 13 and 14 are for exams and revision though we have mid semester tests too!
Well, I assume I only have one a week. Definitely do this term, but next term I might get taught in-college for a paper and it's plausible that my tutor will be mean and set more...but I think I'm going back out of college in the third term so I'll be free of Merton workload insanity again.
Ah yes. I forgot you are at Merton. Enjoy the lack of workload insanity this term. I instantly forgive you
Lol at Surrey our first semester is 14 weeks long with no breaks unless you do a course which needs a reading week, weeks 13 and 14 are for exams and revision though we have mid semester tests too!
Yes. All these people with longer terms/semesters and no breaks (does anyone have a break?) should remember that Oxford and Cambridge are cramming at least as much work into those eight weeks as other universities do into the usual ten. And work is set for the holidays, and Oxford have exams to greet you on your return. They are not wasting supposedly the finest brains in the country on indolence and an easy time.