CPE/GDL institution rankings
I know there aren't many places that actually offer the course, but of those that do, are there any official rankings available? If not, are there any informal rankings? Does it actually matter at all? I'd like to read an LLM afterward, so if there are more prestigious places to do my GDL then I imagine that'd matter, wouldn't it?
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The three best are College of Law, BPP and Nottingham Law School. Although 'best' perhaps isn't the right term. There certainly isn't the level of prestige involved in law schools as there is with universities. As long as you have the money to pay, you'll be able to get into one of the three I mentioned with no problems at all.
Thanks; I'm strongly considering BPP simply because it's got an institution in my home city which means I wouldn't have to worry about paid accommodation for the year.
Out of interest, where does City (London) stand? I know it's high-to-middle for LLBs, but it seems to have quite a good rep for the BVC/LPC so I wonder where it stands for its CPE/GDL course.
Changing topic a little, City offers a graduate-entry 2 year LLB program that actually looks to be about the same cost as a 1 year GDL; I'm thinking this might be better as some universities look to be picky about GDLs for LLM admission. On the other hand, as far as I'm aware I wouldn't be eligible for a Inn of Court scholarship for something like that, whereas I would be for a CPE/GDL if I could demonstrate proper merit and need... Does that make any sense? I presume there are real merits to doing a graduate LLB over a GDL otherwise they wouldn't bother offering it.
Out of interest, where does City (London) stand? I know it's high-to-middle for LLBs, but it seems to have quite a good rep for the BVC/LPC so I wonder where it stands for its CPE/GDL course.
Changing topic a little, City offers a graduate-entry 2 year LLB program that actually looks to be about the same cost as a 1 year GDL; I'm thinking this might be better as some universities look to be picky about GDLs for LLM admission. On the other hand, as far as I'm aware I wouldn't be eligible for a Inn of Court scholarship for something like that, whereas I would be for a CPE/GDL if I could demonstrate proper merit and need... Does that make any sense? I presume there are real merits to doing a graduate LLB over a GDL otherwise they wouldn't bother offering it.
What about doing GDL from Nottingham Trend?
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GDL providers are all similar in terms of course delivery, as the course is very standard. When people say BPP, CoL, and Nottingham Trent are best for the GDL, I think they have perhaps become a little confused along the way. This is in fact largely with reference to the LPC, where there is some form of hierarchy. The same cannot be said to exist for GDL providers.
BPP and CoL may in fact NOT be the best places to do the GDL if you are looking to go on to do an academic LLM afterwards. The courses are often said to be much more spoon-fed than at other places, and as such don't develop any further academic legal skills, or at least to a lesser degree than at some universities.
If you would like to do an LLM afterwards and would like to consider doing the LPC at a reasonable university, perhaps looking at the GDL offering at the University of Birmingham, the University of East Anglia, Keele University, Swansea University, and Oxford Brookes University.
BPP and CoL may in fact NOT be the best places to do the GDL if you are looking to go on to do an academic LLM afterwards. The courses are often said to be much more spoon-fed than at other places, and as such don't develop any further academic legal skills, or at least to a lesser degree than at some universities.
If you would like to do an LLM afterwards and would like to consider doing the LPC at a reasonable university, perhaps looking at the GDL offering at the University of Birmingham, the University of East Anglia, Keele University, Swansea University, and Oxford Brookes University.
Content with working close to home and thinking of pursuing a GDL and LPC at my local uni (UCLAN), do you think most practices would be willing to take on graduates from their local area, especially with some voluntary experience at these types of high street firms?
Original post by exofaco_844@
Content with working close to home and thinking of pursuing a GDL and LPC at my local uni (UCLAN), do you think most practices would be willing to take on graduates from their local area, especially with some voluntary experience at these types of high street firms?
You need to ask around locally, The one thing you can sure of is that people won't be neutral about a local institution. They will either be happy with it or not.
I am a US citizen and currently have my undergraduate degree in Political Science from a US university. I also am one year away from completing my J.D. (US law degree).
I am interested in obtaining a degree that would allow me to practice in the UK. Are there any particular advantages to taking a CPE/GDL course over say the two year LLB from BPP?
Which degree is more powerful or does it necessarily matter?
My end goal is to be able to practice in either the US, UK, or Bermuda with an international firm, thus giving me the chance to practice US and UK law perhaps in the field of Marine Insurance, or just Insurance in general.
Any advice and insight would be greatly appreciated.
I am interested in obtaining a degree that would allow me to practice in the UK. Are there any particular advantages to taking a CPE/GDL course over say the two year LLB from BPP?
Which degree is more powerful or does it necessarily matter?
My end goal is to be able to practice in either the US, UK, or Bermuda with an international firm, thus giving me the chance to practice US and UK law perhaps in the field of Marine Insurance, or just Insurance in general.
Any advice and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Original post by sfkrzyston
I am a US citizen and currently have my undergraduate degree in Political Science from a US university. I also am one year away from completing my J.D. (US law degree).
I am interested in obtaining a degree that would allow me to practice in the UK. Are there any particular advantages to taking a CPE/GDL course over say the two year LLB from BPP?
Which degree is more powerful or does it necessarily matter?
My end goal is to be able to practice in either the US, UK, or Bermuda with an international firm, thus giving me the chance to practice US and UK law perhaps in the field of Marine Insurance, or just Insurance in general.
Any advice and insight would be greatly appreciated.
I am interested in obtaining a degree that would allow me to practice in the UK. Are there any particular advantages to taking a CPE/GDL course over say the two year LLB from BPP?
Which degree is more powerful or does it necessarily matter?
My end goal is to be able to practice in either the US, UK, or Bermuda with an international firm, thus giving me the chance to practice US and UK law perhaps in the field of Marine Insurance, or just Insurance in general.
Any advice and insight would be greatly appreciated.
It costs a lot less to do the CPE/GDL over one year compared to a two year LLB. If you have an undergrad and will have a JD, another LLB is really superfluous.
I would have thought you'd be better off applying for firms with offices in the UK/the Bermudas for an associate's position--why go to the trouble and expense of qualifying in the UK, when you could simply do an internal transfer to an office over there and get someone else to foot the bill?
JJ:
Good suggestion on having someone else foot the bill.
Either way cost is not really a factor, and if I am unable to get a job right now in the current market this is something I would pursue in order to increase job prospects and earning potential.
As an aside, the route to become a certified barrister seems more lengthy than that to become a solicitor with higher rights of audience. Is there any benefit to pursuing qualification as a barrister as opposed to a solicitor with HRA? Is one certification preferred by firms over another?
I am really in the information gathering stage of this pursuit, I appreciate your insight and advice in advance.
Good suggestion on having someone else foot the bill.
Either way cost is not really a factor, and if I am unable to get a job right now in the current market this is something I would pursue in order to increase job prospects and earning potential.
As an aside, the route to become a certified barrister seems more lengthy than that to become a solicitor with higher rights of audience. Is there any benefit to pursuing qualification as a barrister as opposed to a solicitor with HRA? Is one certification preferred by firms over another?
I am really in the information gathering stage of this pursuit, I appreciate your insight and advice in advance.
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