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    (Original post by No Future)
    My mum's friends think they're fat when they're getting towards a UK size 10-12
    umm...according to marks and spencer...i'm probably a UK size 8 or less. my huge M&S coat is UK 8 haha.

    in hk...UK 12 is a bit...over...but i guess that's for hk size ppl.
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    btw are u on msn??
    nope, will be on a little later, just finishing off some work... my computer is too distracting
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    (Original post by KingAS)
    nope, will be on a little later, just finishing off some work... my computer is too distracting
    haha...i'm already distracted. too late. :p:
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    umm...according to marks and spencer...i'm probably a UK size 8 or less. my huge M&S coat is UK 8 haha.

    in hk...UK 12 is a bit...over...but i guess that's for hk size ppl.
    i dont think its just a problem with hk nd the UK. i got a quiksilver shirt that was XXL from hk the other day and it fits me fine.

    but if i bought the and australian XXL... lets just say it would look more like a dress on me :rolleyes: i am a medium / large btw
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    (Original post by KingAS)
    i dont think its just a problem with hk nd the UK. i got a quiksilver shirt that was XXL from hk the other day and it fits me fine.

    but if i bought the and australian XXL... lets just say it would look more like a dress on me :rolleyes: i am a medium / large btw
    haha i so know wat u mean

    when i went shopping in london TopShop (god i love the shop), i had to buy skinny fit and i still needed belt for my pants. whereas in hk...i can basically forget about the Ms Sixty's skinny fit. they're for the tiny people. i'll probably wreck them HAHA.
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    yes. we find it quite degrading to be associated with China most of the time. most of us prefer to remain as a british colony...or now wat we call an "international city". it's a matter of history thing.
    I am from the mainland i am so sad to hear that. anyway, most of my friends and I regard hk and people there as our brothers and sisters.
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    (Original post by Trivance)
    I am from the mainland i am so sad to hear that. anyway, most of my friends and I regard hk and people there as our brothers and sisters.
    it's a lot of history thing and i think u'll realise anyway

    besides...the hk government's been so messed up since the handover it doesn't make us feel any better. sorry.
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    I have always wondered what its like living in China. I guess if Kondor is on, and if he visits this thread, he might reply to my post.
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    ~interesting thread!
    like anyone of any particular race, there are the good and bad ppl. I'm an Australian born Chinese so i guess i get to see my origins from a different perspective.

    Even though it's all one big blob of land, there are two distinct ecnomices/societies: the developed international coastal cities like shanghai and HK...and then the traditional, rural and v poor towns as you move away from the coast. and perhaps there's a 3rd type, the rapidly developing places like Guangdong province

    Overall, i'm damn proud of my roots...not only the history and culture that has survived for thousands of years, and also the cuisine -but the fact that it can adapt/exist with today's times [by contrast e.g. i visited egypt a couple of years ago, and it was absolutely amazing...but so sad to see that their greatness hadnt carried through to the present... ]
    anyway...i love the language too (so ashamed that i can't read the characters fluently ) My mum said there's like 50+ official dialects but the written language is all the same! :cool:

    things to love: (abuot HK)
    1 Yum Cha...and how it's not just a matter of eating, but a whole socialising situation...
    2 the night life : couldnt sleep when i first visited HK, the city is buzzing with life and lights at 11pm!
    3 the shopping!
    4 i find it hilarious that family and friends over there always ask if i'm thinking of becoming a doctor and then have a double take when i say that i dont/didnt study any sciences

    weird/not so good things:
    1 flood of stick figures in the street...at home i buy from size xs-s but in Hk, it's usu M/L ...and all those get-thin ads
    2 products that promote skin whitening effects...having been brought up in Australia...it's brown and tan all the way :p: [Fancl House ads with Gigi :rolleyes: ]
    3 is it just me, or does almost every young female (late teens-20s) have this annoying small child's voice
    4 over enthusiastic salesgirls -i once burst out laughing cos she was animated-hate the ones who follow u around and stand like an inch away and if u even look like ur gonna reach for sthg they start listing out all the poss sizes, styles and colours and if u wanna try it on and that the changerooms are over there
    5 spitting everywhere in china
    6 ocassional rudeness--i guess they're used to competition, and everything is a struggle...so civility and politeness are often left at home
    7 the pop 'music'--ergh! i was saying to my bro, if Juno can be famous, u can be too :p:


    (Original post by Trivance)
    I am from the mainland i am so sad to hear that. anyway, most of my friends and I regard hk and people there as our brothers and sisters.
    ~I'm sorry too... although i dont feel that way, i know the attitude exists. i guess hk saw itself as westernised since being a brit colony, while the mainland stayed behind. i def think the attitude's changing tho--more n more are coming down from the mainland to work...n china's like the manufacturing hub of the world. I was in Paris 2 weeks ago and saw several tours of chinese ppl, and in the cosmetic counters of some major dept stores there was at least one asian -looking sales person at each counter! What i find sad is a when a fellow ABC friend like myself is proud that she doesn't live like a chinese, that she can't speak chinese...

    woah..sorry for looong post! :hello: have fun reading :p:
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    no way! i find it a turn on. im english with south american heratige but i find the chinese a turn on. all my bfs have been chinese and all the people im attracted to look chinese.

    purely on physical apprance:

    i think they should be proud of what they look like. jet li was really ugly after that eye surgery. the chinese shouldnt dye their hair blonde/western haircuts/skin whitening i think the tan looks fantastic. i also think all chinese boys and girls look very attractive with a bit of fat or muscle. the only chinese i find ugly are the thin ones. i say girls aim for size 14UK size at least. the stickinsect no breaxsts look is so crap. as for guys, the bigger the better! my bf is a UK size large and i like it!
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    i ve been to shanghai. All I can say it is massive and nice city.I quite liked it there.Chinese ppl seemed to be very friendly.
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    Well, I've never been myself, but have various offers for Chinese studies, so (disasterous A2s notwithstanding) I should be off out there in a few years...Maybe sooner if I can get myself sorted out on the gap year side of things...

    I find China fascinating, both historically and present day...All the studies we've ever done have been on Europe and the US, so I find myself wanting to know more and more about the wider world - I read what I can now, but it'll be nice to be able to devote more time to it
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    (Original post by No Future)
    I suppose Chinese 'culture' is something that most westerners are not used to. I went to China on a school trip in October and I was quite shocked by my fellow pupils' attitudes and misconceptions. I do not claim to know a lot about Chinese culture, but when we were presented with chopsticks, there was a huge uproar...

    "OMG why are there no knives and forks!?"

    "EEEEEW what is THAT???"
    "It's beef.."
    "Oh, are you sure it's not DOG MEAT???" :rolleyes:

    "Urgh, what are you eating???"
    "It's called 'mantou' - a type of bun/bread."
    "Oh right coz it looks like MONKEY BRAINS!!" :rolleyes:

    Watermelon is brought out at the end of the meal...
    <whilst eating the fruit>...
    "Where's the dessert?"
    "WHAT? You mean that WAS our dessert?? I thought we were going to get a proper pudding like apple crumble!! What? Not even CHOCOLATE? OMG!"

    "Eeeew, that cheese is gross!"
    "It's not cheese...It's tofu..."
    "WTF? What's tofu?? WHAT do you mean it's not cheese??"
    "The Chinese don't traditionally eat much dairy..."
    "OMG WTF?"

    And yes, every meal was like that. For breakfast we had bacon, eggs etc and people complained about how they wanted a 'proper English' breakfast. When we went to a different hotel where there were no Chinese foods for breakfast, with the same bacon, eggs etc they said, "OMG finally, a REAL English breakfast...I was getting so sick of Chinese food for breakfast..." :rolleyes:

    At the end...
    "Omg I am so proud of myself, I tried REAL Chinese food!!!"
    Yes, so authentic, the stuff you get in takeaways back home. Meals were sweet and sour, rice, CHIPS (!!), beef stir fry etc.

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
    that is! it is so interesting that i cannot help laughing!thanks! :p:
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    (Original post by magiccarpet)
    no way! i find it a turn on. im english with south american heratige but i find the chinese a turn on. all my bfs have been chinese and all the people im attracted to look chinese.

    purely on physical apprance:

    i think they should be proud of what they look like. jet li was really ugly after that eye surgery. the chinese shouldnt dye their hair blonde/western haircuts/skin whitening i think the tan looks fantastic. i also think all chinese boys and girls look very attractive with a bit of fat or muscle. the only chinese i find ugly are the thin ones. i say girls aim for size 14UK size at least. the stickinsect no breaxsts look is so crap. as for guys, the bigger the better! my bf is a UK size large and i like it!
    personally...i hate all the whitening stuff too. makes people look all pale and ill. *urgh* i prefer to be tanned...tanner the better...but most hk people already think i'm too tanned. it's like "watever..." Fancl House's whitening adverts have to be the most hilarious haha. constant joke in bio.

    as for sizes...umm...i guess i'm with the hk standard thing. ok except of the boobs bit...thank god i'm like my mom and not flat as the "airport runway" (a slang we use in canto) like most chinese girls. that's sick. but i do aim to keep myself UK size 8...at least if i follow the HK M&S size i'm UK size 8...i think. but then in hk shops like esprit, i'm S...but in shops like Mango where it's really slim hk sizes...i'm M. used to be fatter thank god i lost weight.
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    lol.... I dont find the idea of 'parental pressure' a problem for me... although born Taiwanese.. my parents dont really put pressure on me... I know they are dissappointed if I start to fail school... but all parents are like that anyway...

    in the far east.. however its a different story as there is far more competition and as far as the culture goes... to succeed in life... you need to succeed academically.. I dont know who had this dumb idea anyway.... obviously some teacher didn't want to lose their job so they made up this rule I guess.... but anyway... who cares how good you do in school.... your behaviour and personality outweighs any achievement...
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    btw... I dont get the HK, Mainland conflict... personally I am from Taiwan so I make friends with both people... forget the politicians.. (ALL POLITIANS ARE DAMN LIARS AND SHOULD BE SHOT)... we are all friends regardless of race/nationality....
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    (Original post by anchemis)
    btw... I dont get the HK, Mainland conflict... personally I am from Taiwan so I make friends with both people... forget the politicians.. (ALL POLITIANS ARE DAMN LIARS AND SHOULD BE SHOT)... we are all friends regardless of race/nationality....
    there ar some exceptions...but most mainland people are so rude and unhygienic and all those we just don't like them. and a lot of them need manner management big time.
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    there ar some exceptions...but most mainland people are so rude and unhygienic and all those we just don't like them. and a lot of them need manner management big time.
    I am sorry? :eek: i think your words show that you are the one who really need some manners. what an arrogant child from HK.
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    ~i have to agree with trivance on this one! as i said in my above post, i know the attitude exists and i don't agree with it. There are well/bad mannered ppl of every race so i don't think you should label your OWN origins with such a neg generalisation.
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    (Original post by canuck)
    I have always wondered what its like living in China. I guess if Kondor is on, and if he visits this thread, he might reply to my post.
    Life in China is very interesting, the best way to sum it up is a clash of two cultures. There is the younger generation, which now incorporated by the WTO, is chasing after every dollar they can get their hands on- to buy expensive cars and big houses, etc.. And then there is the older generation that is generally poor and caught off guard by the rapid changing events.

    "...The nouveau riche whizz past you in their black Mercs as you're pulling out of the cycle lane to avoid some poor guy with no legs scuttling along on a makeshift trolley with a four year old kid walking beside him - they're tied together with a piece of string and the kid's holding out
    the begging bowl...." - a fellow teachers description of his daily bike rides to school

    The first day I summed up the courage to venture outside alone, I witnessed two interesting events.
    1- A guy in a BMW shouting at a guy being pulled by a couple of donkeys
    2- A guy in withered old clothes hacking up a dog carcass with a big butcher knife standing in front of a three story Nike shop.

    China is very overcrowded, it is something that you definitely have to adjust to. You get on the subway in Shanghai and you will get smashed in. As soon as you think there is no possible way to get ANYONE else on your little car, here come fifty more people all smashing in trying to make room. China is very safe and has some of the most beautiful places to visit on earth. There are so many wonderful and old cities and villages near me that I could fill every weekend with a day trip. The people are generally very friendly and very inquisitive about westerners. One of my first days here I was eating a chicken sandwich (called a hamburger here) at McDonalds and I looked out the window and there was a crowd of people all pressed up against the glass staring right at me. I gave them a slight wave and they all simultaneously smiled and waved back.

    The language is near impossible, its not so much memorization, but pronunciation. It is so difficult to actually say the words, that it slows down learing to a crawl and most people, including myself as of late, generally give up. They key skill required for learning Mandarin is the ability to sing. I cannot sing at all, I cannot carry a tune and thus I cannot distinguish my tones in Mandarin. (Mandarin has 5 tones where you increase and decrease the pitch of you voice for EVERY syllable).

    Oh and the Chinese food you've had in the states or in England, IS NOT REAL CHINESE FOOD!! The food here is crazy! Today at lunch the teacher that I share an office with had duck soup -the ducks whole head was in her bowl. It had its veins hanging out of its neck and everything- it takes some getting used to.

    DVDs and Playstation 2 games cost about 50p here, which is great. I now own about 300 DVDs along with about 50 P2 games.

    All in all, I like it a lot. It is almost time for our spring festival and I am going to travel to Guilin and Mount Wudang. I am very excited and can't wait.
 
 
 
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