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Applying for composition - some advice

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Reply 20

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by NicoDiA
Hi KitM,
Im really grateful for the post, would you mind if you could send me your pieces that you used for your application.
Thank you very much


Hi–

Sorry, not sure if I ever replied. DM me your email and I'd be happy to send them over!

Reply 21

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by yoelboloer
Hey, I was wondering what sort of academic stuff you cover year 1-4 at conservatoire - essentially anything academic from aural, theory, analysis, exams etc.? Do you think this is mostly the same across other conservatoires?
I was also wondering sort of tests they do to stream you into classes?
Thanks!

Hi–

Sorry not to reply sooner.

I can't speak for other conservatories, but at Guildhall, you have a wide range of academic work (depends a bit what you mean by "academic").

In first year, all music students take ear training and classes in "musical materials" (lots of music theory/harmonisation).

In years 1-3, everyone also takes a class called CPK "creating and performing knowledge." This is your main academic class, covering musicology/aesthetics/history/etc. You write essays each year, culminating in a 7,000-word dissertation in third year (my topic was "Caroline Shaw and postmodernism," though by the end I realised that it should have really been "Caroline Shaw and metamodernism").

Then, the composition course involves a lot of additional academic work–

- counterpoint and harmonisation in years 1-3 (species counterpoint, 17th and 18th century stylistic composition, fugues, etc. you do lots of counterpoint!)
- contemporary stylistic composition (e.g. serialism, experimental sound art, and a 20th/21st century stylistic project)
- lots and lots of analysis, in every year (you start with classical sonatas in first year, and gradually work up to the 21st century)
- aesthetics classes in third and fourth year (basically music and philosophy)
- reflective workshop and rehearsal skills classes, partially assessed by essay
- technical notation classes in first year (taught by the incredible Laurence Crane)
- orchestration in third year

You also write long commentaries for each piece in your folios of original composition. They ask for 100-200 words per minute, which for a 12-minute piece could mean a 2,400 word essay.

All music students also take professional studies, which, in fourth year, involves a lot of written work.

There are also electives in years 2-4, and you could choose additional classes in harmonisation, aural skills, keyboard skills, music and philosophy, history of music, stylistic composition, etc.

I've had no exams, except for a one-hour species counterpoint exam in first year (although you do do a timed one-week original composition in third year).

I don't know what the story is at other conservatoires, but you should be able to find out easily just send the composition department an email, and they'll probably be able to give you a departmental handbook or similar. Anecdotally, I've heard that Guildhall composers do more academic work than other schools, but I don't know that for sure.

As for streaming (at least when I was in first year), we were into streamed aural and musical materials classes streaming was done via an online ear training test and a short harmonisation paper, if I remember right. Other than that, there's no streaming.

Reply 22

I've been helping a few people with composition applications over the last few months. I've written some long emails, and I thought I'd share some of the bits of advice/some of the resources I've been pointing applicants towards.

The advice below is absolutely not universal, and doesn't apply to every project, but it might point you in some interesting directions.

On variety/detail/colour/contrast in your compositions
Feedback on a composition:

"My one big suggestion is to find ways of adding more variety/detail/nuance/subtlety to find more shades of light and dark, to bring out more of the piece’s character and attitude.

Partly, this just means creating variation from bar to bar, and note to note. You can do this just with articulation, dynamics, using a range of rhythms, using different chord voicings, changing registers, changing tempi, etc etc. Think about building tension, throwing in some surprises, some unpredictability… This can create excitement, and give the piece more life and drama.

You can use this approach to generate a wider range of colours. If you imagine a spectrum from light to dark, try to include material that occupies many different places on that spectrum. At the moment, you have some very dark material (loud, thick, heavy, low, slow) and some very light material (quiet, sparse, high, fast), but maybe not so much in between. Making fuller use of rhythm/harmony/dynamics/register/density/etc. will let you let create more nuance and variety. And I’d aim particularly to add more light; at the moment, the tone feels very dark and low in register, and I think more sparkle/delicacy could go a long way.

I think some more rhythmic colour could make a huge difference. At the moment, absolutely everything is on a quaver grid as in, the rhythms are all either in quavers, or multiples of quavers, or, when there are semiquavers, they’re always in groups of two or four. A lot of the piece is just on a crotchet grid. It’s kinda ‘square,’ and to me, this to me starts to feel a bit monotonous.

I think there’s an opportunity to add so much life and excitement by changing things up. You don’t need to change everything; it’s just about having contrast and variety. Add tuplets! And not just triplets try out quintuplets, septuplets even. Incorporate some more polyrhythms. Experiment with complex tied rhythms, or tuplets with some notes missed out triplets tied to semiquavers tied to quintuplets tied to crotchets etc. Even just some semiquaver syncopation could add a lot.

Instead of letting the listener sit in a comfortable, regular pulse, throw them off sometimes, surprise them, add little breaks and fractures and pauses, bits that rush out too fast, bits that suddenly slow to a crawl. It can be like telling a story: if everything is easy and straightforward, there’s less of a reason for the reader to care than if there are obstacles and challenges and tensions.

In general, maybe think also about pushing the contrasts further: make the loud parts louder, the quiet parts quieter, the dense parts denser, the sparse parts sparser, and so on. Try juxtaposing very different materials (e.g. very quiet with very loud), so that the contrasts become more dramatic. Remember that if everything is loud, nothing sounds loud; if everything is low, nothing sounds low, etc.

As part of this, you might like to think about giving each section a clearer identity. For example, at figure A, you’ve got this loud, accented material great, love it. At figure B, you then switch to a more fluid melody but then you immediately go back to having loud accented chords. What if you kept all the loud dramatic parts in section A, and kept figure B purely soft and elegant and graceful? At the moment, both sections sound similar by keeping one type of material in one section and another type in another section, we’d experience both more contrast and more clarity.

In relation to all of this: have you seen Evelyn Glennie’s TED talk? I’d really recommend just the first five minutes for the snare drum solo: the difference between her just ‘reading the notes,’ and interpreting the score. Of course, she’s talking about what the performer adds to the score, but the drama in the second version comes from things that you the composer can think about too.

Advice about structure
"I’d encourage you to think about what the piece’s ‘story’ might be. I don’t necessarily mean some programmatic narrative (though that could work). I mean more simply, how would you sum up, in a sentence or two, what the piece is trying to do? For example, a ‘story’ could just be, The piece…

…starts very soft and sparse and delicate, before building and building to a wild, chaotic climax. There’s then a soft, reflective coda.
…is symmetrical, ending exactly the same way that it starts.
…starts loud and dramatic, and then gradually fragments and decays until nothing is left but tiny whispers.
…is like walking through the streets of London at midnight, and then meeting a fox, which stares at you for a minute before disappearing.
…switches between two completely opposite types of material, with the switches getting more and more frequent and unpredictable until the piece burns up into frenzied climax.
…explores all the possible nuances and colours and complexities of a single melody.
…is like flying on an airplane that keeps jumping between parallel universes.
…is like hearing a song where the chorus is the same each time, but each verse has been stolen from a different, unrelated song.
…presents the same chord progression over and over again, each time from a different perspective.
…is like sitting next to a stream in a forest on the west coast of Scotland as the sun sets.

At the moment, the piece feels fairly ‘episodic’ to me. There’s lots of different bits of material, but I don’t always understand if/how they’re related (they don’t have to be!) or why they’re in the order they are. I think having a single plan/concept/story for the piece could help the listener make more sense of what they’re hearing.

Once you have a story, stick to it! It can be so so so tempting to deviate, but in general, sticking to a plan helps keep things clear, helps guide your listener through whatever you want to throw at them. What would you say the story of this piece is? It can be absolutely whatever, so long as it’s reasonably simple and clear. If you have one already, could you look for ways to make it more apparent?"

KIT FROM A FEW MONTHS LATER INTERRUPTS: About this last paragraph, some contradictory advice. Yes, a plan can help keep things clear. But there's a flipside to this, which is that a plan can be restrictive, and stop you following your material where it wants to go. Be cautious of setting out too detailed a plan when starting a piece, because (a) if you end up writing something different, you might feel unnecessarily disappointed that "I didn't write what I wanted to" or (b) it might cause you to reject promising ideas because "that's not the plan."

On performance directions
"Would you consider adding more text performance directions? You’ve got ‘dramatic’ at bar X, but I didn’t spot any others. Giving your player an idea of the effect you want them to create can go a really long way. You don’t have to, but you can get creative with these. I recently finished a string quartet, which has got directions like “ice crystals, fracturing into pieces,” “roaring, howling,” “slowly fading, becoming distant,” “flickering, aching,” “calm, silken, luminous,” “ridiculously fastidious,” “like an unbelievably loud fire alarm,” and “a warped vinyl record, spinning out of control.”

One of my favourite composers, Caroline Shaw, has some great, sometimes slightly cryptic ones: “silk shoes gliding over marble mosaic,” “cantaaaaaabile,” “like granite,” “like a photograph slowly developing on waxed paper,” “like an expensive Hermès silk cravat,” “solid and simple, like the Appalachian foothills,” or “a linen hymn.”

You obviously don’t need to go that far! And different performers respond differently to instructions like that, so they’re not always appropriate. But even just simple directions like “delicate,” “simply,” “furiously,” “longing,” “heavy,” “aggressive” can be really effective at guiding a performer’s interpretation of your piece."

Should I do an EPQ/extended essay in sixth form?
Other people would know better than me, but my instinct is you’d be better off spending the time on other things. I had to do an extended essay as part of the IB. I’m not sure if I would have done it by choice, and I don’t think it was a big factor in any of my successful applications. I can’t remember ever being asked about it.

The caveat to this is: if you think you might also/instead apply to university, having done a substantial research essay would be useful, I’m sure.

How important is score study?/Do practical things!
Score study is certainly important, but I’d prioritise practical projects. Be proactive about creating opportunities for yourself. Write pieces, and then crucially, get them played. Finding spaces to get your work performed is nice, but the key experience is workshopping/rehearsing. Application panels like seeing that you know how to work with actual human performers not just how to write for notation software.

You don’t need to write huge orchestral pieces. Just write for who you have available. If you know a guitarist and an oboeist, then write a duo for guitar and oboe!

Maybe also pursue some collaborative work? Do you know any film makers/actors/dancers/writers/visual artists who might like to work with a composer? If not, could you find such people?

It doesn’t have to be all composition either, or all classical composition. Performing, conducting, tutoring, organising concerts/other events, mixing/production, learning a new instrument it’s all valuable! Just remember that it’s a practical, creative course. Do practical, creative things to prepare.

Resources on (extended) string techniques
Excellent introduction to a range of string techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3Z3yAK-UE&t=2s

I’d also suggest checking out the YouTube channel, The Modern Cellist, for explanations and demonstrations of some of the more extended techniques (not just limited to the cello). Here’s a good one on the “seagull” effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTZvFSiQkk

For string harmonics, have a play with the Ligeti Quartet’s (work in progress) harmonics calculator: https://harmonics-react.extendedstrings.org/

If you really feel like getting into string extended techniques, Valerie Wellbanks (the Ligeti Quartet’s cellist) has an extraordinary thesis detailing just about everything you can possibly do with a cello: https://research.gold.ac.uk/id/eprint/20163/7/MUS_thesis_WelbanksV_2017.pdf

Reply 23

EDIT TO MY ORIGNAL POST
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Please DM me your email, and I'll send things over.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I'm now in my final year at Guildhall, and have a decent understanding of the admission process. Again, send me a DM if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.

Reply 24

Original post
by KitM
EDIT (October 2023)
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Please DM me your email, and I'll send things over.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I'm now in my final year at Guildhall, and have a decent understanding of the admission process. Again, send me a DM if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.

Hello!

I'm entering second year at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama, studying classical composition. In 2019, I applied to GSMD, RCM, RAM, RCS, RNCM, and Trinity. I got offers from GSMD, RAM, and Trinity, and reserves from RNCM and RCS. I was rejected from RCM.

Over the last year or so, several people have contacted me asking for advice about the composition application process at UK conservatoires. It can be super hard to find information about it, so I thought I'd share some experiences and advice here.

This advice is based on both my direct experiences, the experiences of others in my class, and conversations I've had later with staff at Guildhall and other conservatoires.

This is just one person's view - please don't take my word as gospel! And I warn you, it may be a bit of a ramble…

Portfolio
Your portfolio is, of course, vital. Variety is important. For mine, I included an experimental vocal piece that I wrote at a summer school, a piece using a lot of electronics with a fairly simple string quintet part, and a romantic-ish piece for two horns and piano. I'm happy to send these to anyone looking for an idea of what level's required.

Panels want to see both creativity and technique - but the former is probably more important than the latter. Technique is easy to teach; creativity less so.

They want to know you'll try exciting, radical, innovative, experimental things. This doesn't mean you need to submit spectral string quartets stuffed full of extended techniques - but you do want to surprise them, if possible. Avoid pastiche string quartets/orchestral action movie cues/Ludovico Einaudi-esque piano minimalism. Show them that you can bring some creative flair to their department. You don't need to be revolutionary, but you do need to demonstrate a bit of originality.

Showing technique is also important, but some weaknesses probably aren’t the end of the world. You might struggle with some parts of the course if your theory isn’t roughly grade 7/8 standard, but you can pick up harmony, counterpoint, and orchestration fairly quickly. And departments are keen to find people doing their own unique thing, so a strong portfolio doesn't have to show a confident grasp of conventional western theory.

Presentation of your scores is important, too! The RNCM panel spotted several errors in my notation ('that dynamic marking should be one semiquaver to the right!'), so show your attention to detail here. Programme notes go down well - Guildhall in particular liked this.

Have a look at some contemporary scores. Faber's perusal scores are fantastic: here's a Tansy Davies one, a David Fennesy one, and a Thomas Ades one, for examples. Note how they're presented, and the kind of performance notes they include. The more professional your scores, the better.

See if you can get a copy of Behind Bars, by Elaine Gould. Most uni libraries will have a copy. It’s the music notation bible.

Handwritten scores (and unconventional notation) go down great both my experimental vocal piece and my short RAM exercise were handwritten, and the panels noticed that. I think it shows that you take care with your work, think about exactly how to notate your intentions, and crucially, that you can work without notation software.

Personal statement
First, if you're applying to both universities and conservatoires, you need two statements. Some of what you say may be the same, but in your university one, you'd focus on your academic skills and interest in musicology, while in your conservatoire one, you'd focus on your practical experience and career ambitions.

I’ve added my (slightly anonymised) statement below. Here are a few suggestions.

Firstly, if you can, show a wide variety of experiences. Ensemble playing, theatre pit bands, small composition projects, competitions, teaching, conducting, recording skills it’s all relevant and useful. They want to know you’ve got what it takes to work as a musician, and that means being flexible, and ideally being able to do a bit of everything.

Try to avoid just listing things you’ve done like a history or English essay, use each experience as evidence for the points you’re making. Talk about what you’ve learned from the experiences. It’s no good just saying you’ve done a lot of stuff tell them you’ve developed as a result.

If you don’t have much experience at the moment, try and find some between now and October! Everything counts. The panels will appreciate that everything is more difficult at the moment, but you’d definitely get extra points for pulling something together virtually!

Generally, showing you are proactive is good news. For example, about a year before I applied, I sent out emails to just about every theatre and dance company I could find near where I lived, asking to collaborate with them. I sent about 50 emails, and got 2 (?) positive replies. But that led to a great project with a dance company, which gave me proper composition work experience: project development, creative teamwork, workshops, composition, sound design, production, etc. Show you will actively seek out opportunities, and not just wait for them to come to you.

(Flipside to this advice: sometimes it's better to be targeted, rather than just firing millions of emails off into the void. Seen a show you really liked? Write to that company specifically, tell them why you love their work, and ask if there's any way you could get involved.)

Secondly, be reflective about your work. Guildhall and RAM both liked that I talked about my weaknesses in my statement. It tells them that you’re honest about your abilities, and that you’re open to being taught.

Lastly, make sure to tell them why you want to go! Let your excitement for composition shine through, and tell them what you expect to gain from going to conservatoire.

Wider reading is still good to include if you have space, as are non-musical activities that demonstrate good personal qualities.

Interview
Next, you will hopefully be called for interviews! Different places vary on their interview rates. In 2019 at least, RCS and Trinity Laban interviewed lots of people, whereas at RAM (anecdotally) if you got an interview, you had a strong chance of getting an offer.

The interview panels are very friendly, but all the preparation you can do counts.

I think the key thing is to show that you are open minded. They want to know that you are teachable; they don’t want people who’ll only ever do one thing and won’t take feedback. I went to my RCS and RNCM interviews, and told them just how much I didn’t like Brahms and Schoenberg. I don’t think this went down well….

I later got some (I think) excellent advice from a uni head of music. In essence, his advice was never to say you don’t like something. Pretty much any music has its respective merits, and if you show that you’re closed off to something, the panel is going to doubt your willingness to be adventurous in your own music. It’s not good to come across (as I am sure I did in the first interviews!) as a music snob.

So, if you dislike Schoenberg, then don’t say: ‘Well, I honestly don’t think that serialism is expressive enough to be considered art.’ Say: ‘I’ve been listening to more Schoenberg lately. I find it challenging to listen to because it’s pretty unfamiliar to me, but I’m starting to learn new ways of approaching it and appreciating it.’ While something may be unfamiliar to you now, show willingness to get to know it and appreciate that you might grow to love it with time.

They’ll all ask you about the music you love and that influences you. I’d say the key thing is to be honest. Don’t talk about something you don’t like just to appear sophisticated and knowledgeable they’ll catch you out quickly! Talk about what you really love and what really excites you.

You don’t need to limit yourself to classical music, either. Feel free to talk about heavy metal, Jacob Collier, some unusual alternative pop, some traditional folk music, an unusual film soundtrack. Just so long as you can offer some thoughtful comments about them!

But probably stay away from the obvious answers. In general, avoid Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin, and stay clear of John Williams and Hans Zimmer. I remember even being warned off Stravinsky and Britten: "everyone will talk about them and they’re just not cool anymore." As far as I can tell, the particular problem with film music is that it suggests you think of music as supporting other mediums, rather than thinking of music as standalone art.

I’d recommend listening to as much new music as you possibly can. Probably prioritise living contemporary classical composers. You can find lots by looking at the faculty of various conservatoires, looking for who gives masterclasses, who wins competitions, whose work is played by contemporary ensembles, etc. If you need inspiration, I’ve added a long list below!

Listen to as much as you can bear, and then tell the panels what you’ve found: what you’ve liked, what’s inspired you, what you’ve struggled with, what reminds you of what, etc…

Look also at the staff members at each department, and try and find some of their work. Get an idea what the staff are doing themselves.

Some places were definitely keen to hear about post-war 20th century composers, so try and learn a bit about people like Stockhausen, Messian, Boulez, Ligeti, Xenakis, Lutoslawski, Feldman, Cage, Part, Reich, Adams, etc. Even if you don’t love them, you might well need to talk about them a bit.

When listening to all these composers, you may find some of it very strange! If possible, try not to let it put you off :smile: Conservatoires want you to know as much other music as possible because it’s a very useful tool for your musical imagination. But this doesn’t mean that if you get in you’ll be stuck writing all atonal or spectral or serial music. Everywhere will be keen to nurture your individual style.

Have a good answer for the question ‘why do you want to come here in particular?’ They want to know that you’ll be a good fit for their particular department, and that your four years there will be well spent. Sometimes a panel will decide you’re just not quite the right fit that’s not a reflection on your abilities, just a matter of aesthetic differences.

When it comes to your own work, again, showing that you are reflective and thoughtful about your work is important. Talk about parts of your pieces that aren’t quite as you’d like. Talk very carefully through your composition process and give detailed reasoning for your artistic decisions. Talk about your original compositional intentions, and how you might attempt the piece differently a second time. Tell them about the sections in your pieces that you really like, and the sections that you think haven’t worked out well.

Talking about a weakness in your piece won’t make them look at your portfolio in a bad light (hopefully!) it’ll show them you’ve got what it takes to develop and become the best composer you possibly can be. They want people who can look at their work with a critical eye.

All additional reading - about any area of music you like - is good too. The more interesting things you have to talk about, the better.

Aural and theory tests
All of the conservatoires I auditioned at (except for RCS) had additional aural and theory tests. The below is my experience in 2019 many departments will have adapted their tests since so that they can be done online.

RNCM had a long online multiple choice test that all the music applicants had to complete. We had to recognise classical works, identify chords, identify intervals, spot errors in four part harmony, analyse unconventional notation, and so on.

Just prior to the composition interview, there were two additional tasks: harmonise a four bar melody in a completely free style (with a piano), and analyse a score extract from an unidentified classical work. I ended up with something from the Rite of Spring: they wanted me to work out what it was, find where the dissonances were in an orchestral chord, and tell them when the Rite of Spring was first performed (I was off by an embarrassingly large margin).

RAM did the composition interview first, then asked me to wait to hear if I’d got through to the academic interview. The academic interview involved identifying intervals and cadences, sight singing, clapping a rhythm, singing and clapping together, and some questions on what I identified as a Beethoven piano sonata. They wanted me to name chords and cadences, talk about era-specific features, give a date for the piece, etc.

RCM’s aural tests were similar to RAM.

Trinity Laban asked me to perform something on my instrument, then listen to some extracts of modern classical pieces. This is where the preparatory listening came in handy there was Stockhausen, Xenakis, Glass, etc.

Guildhall was hard (I thought!). There was a 90 minute (?) written test, involving transcription, harmonisation ‘in a characteristic style,’ and composition (setting a short poem to music, with one voice and one monophonic instrument). We had no piano, except for 15 minutes at a piano at the end to check our work.

They went over the test in the interview, and although I missed out a chunk of the transcription and got some weird chords for the harmonisation, they seemed satisfied that I lived up to approximate A-level music standards.

Other notes
I think there’s a consensus that both unis and conservatoires prefer you to apply to one or the other, not both. I was asked at many of my interviews whether or not I was applying to uni (I wasn’t) I think they want to see that you’re fully committed to practical study. I'd encourage you to decide in advance what you really want to do if you apply for both, you risk disadvantaging yourself in both applications.

I decided not to apply to uni when I realised that even if I got an offer, I wouldn’t take it if I didn’t have any conservatoire offers, I’d just wait a year and re-apply.

On competitiveness: there aren’t many places, but there also aren’t *that* many applicants. In the UK, composition departments seem to admit between 3 and 8 people each year, out of anywhere from 50-100 applicants. It’s a total guess, but I’d say an admission rate of around 10-20% is about average.

Personal statement
I want to make music that excites listeners, and stays with them. Sometimes, I have achieved this. When [a recent piece] was performed at a composition course, I was delighted to see the audience react with surprise, amusement, unease and intrigue. I want to study composition to better understand how this works, and how to evoke emotion with sound.

I started learning the horn aged seven. My teacher uses improvisation from day one, and encourages her pupils to compose for the class as soon as possible. From this background, I have now written and performed concert pieces, and music for theatre, dance, radio drama, art installations and film.

To develop as a composer, I have sought a wide variety of opportunities. I have taken part in courses run by Sound and Music, and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. After two unsuccessful entries, I won the Royal Opera House's Fanfare competition and had my piece recorded by the Orchestra. Four times, I have written music for the 'Play in a Day' project at [a university’s] Creative Writing Summer School. In one day, four groups of students write a short radio drama, while I devise music for each.

Currently, I am writing and producing the soundtrack to [show name], a contemporary dance project by [a young professional company]. The music is inspired by swing-era jazz, pop and musical theatre. I have also begun writing for my school's production of [play].

Looking to the future, I am working to establish an experimental ensemble at my school. We will explore graphic scores, electronics, chance, theatre and other elements.

However, I have found gaps in my knowledge. I tend to overcomplicate, when simplicity and sparseness would be more powerful. I struggle with maintaining energy in slower, more reflective pieces. I need to develop my ability in classical harmony and counterpoint.

In addition to these core skills, I believe a conservatoire will offer me chances to collaborate with ensembles and productions, and will expose me to a wider musical world. I will develop my musicianship: skills including performing, conducting, and rehearsing.

I have extensive practical musical experience. In addition to composition, I play horn and keyboard, and sing. I have played with [semi-pro orchestra] and [a national youth orchestra] and took part in the world premiere of [piece] by [famous American composer]. I have also played for school productions of [musical] and [musical], and have a good understanding of jazz performance. I have participated in conducting workshops with [conductor] and [conductor], have organised school concerts, and stage managed musical theatre.

As a result, I have discovered the value of collaboration. I have learnt to pay close attention to the needs of the team and the production. I see the importance of meticulous organisation and preparation, of being able to explain each of my musical decisions, working proactively, and writing quickly when needed.

I have gained other valuable skills for academic and professional life. I was the winner of the UK Supreme Court’s student writing competition, with an essay about the disproportionate use of secret evidence in court. I was a member of the Scottish Youth Parliament, and argued for [----] in front of a Scottish Parliament committee. I have an analytical mind, and an ability to find the root of a problem quickly.

I will involve myself in the life of a conservatoire with enthusiasm and curiosity.


Contemporary composers to listen to!
Some personal (mainly 21st century) recommendations!
Andrew Norman
Cassandra Miller
Catherine Lamb
Dai Fujikura
David Fennessy
David T Little
Dobrinka Tabakova
Du Yun
Eliane Radigue
Ellen Reid
Errollyn Wallen
Esa-Pekka Salonen
Eve Beglarian
Gavin Bryars
Jennifer Higdon
Jennifer Walshe
Jessie Montgomery
Joanna Bailie
John Luther Adams
Judd Greenstein
Julia Wolfe
Julian Anderson
Kate Soper
Laurence Crane
Laurie Anderson
Meredith Monk
Michael Finnissy
Missy Mazzoli
Neil Luck
Nico Muhly
Paul Newland
R Murray Schafer
Robin Haigh
Sarah Kirkland Snyder
Stuart Macrae
Tansy Davies
Thomas Ades
Toby Young
Unsuk Chin

These composers are also very very cool
Alexander Goehr
Berio
Birtwhistle
Boulez
Cage
Claude Vivier
David Lang
Einojuhani Rautavaara
Elliott Carter
Feldman
Ferneyhough
Georg Friederich Haas
George Benjamin
George Crumb
Glass
Grisey
Hans Abrahamsen
Harry Partch
Henry Cowell
Howard Skempton
Ives
James MacMillan
James Saunders
John Adams
Jonathan Harvey
Kaija Saariaho
Knussen
Kurtag
Lachenmann
LaMonte Young
Ligeti
Linda Catlin Smith
Louis Andriessen
Luigi Nono
Lutoslawski
Marc Sabat
Mark-Anthony Turnage
Maxwell Davies
Messiaen
Milhaud
Milton Babbitt
Nancarrow
Part
Pauline Oliveros
Peteris Vasks
Philip Cashian
Pierre Schaeffer
Radulescu
Reich
Scelsi
Simon Bainbridge
Sofia Gubaidulina
Stockhausen
Terry Riley
Tippett
Varese
Xenakis


Some extra scores to look at
Catherine Lamb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAN3yCtlkf0
Joanna Bailie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWrsqDSL_eU
Kate Soper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWHGx-LRL4
Tansy Davies - https://www.fabermusic.com/music/neon-4806/score

Also, anything on the ScoreFollower YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScoreFollower/videos

HI! I just wanted to ask if you included your main instruments in your intro or main body paragraph and what experience did you talk about without going on a ramble. I'm struggling to keep it concise and most of my experience was at a young age but I've been told that it's not great for it to be that outdated. I'm just struggling with the overall structure and what to include. Hopefully you'll see this and be able to help. Thanks!

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by kkaaaaa
HI! I just wanted to ask if you included your main instruments in your intro or main body paragraph and what experience did you talk about without going on a ramble. I'm struggling to keep it concise and most of my experience was at a young age but I've been told that it's not great for it to be that outdated. I'm just struggling with the overall structure and what to include. Hopefully you'll see this and be able to help. Thanks!

If you check my original post, I've included my personal statement towards the end, which might be helpful? I mentioned my main instrument early on, because it was my way into music.

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by KitM
EDIT (October 2023)
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Please DM me your email, and I'll send things over.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I'm now in my final year at Guildhall, and have a decent understanding of the admission process. Again, send me a DM if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.
Hello!
I'm entering second year at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama, studying classical composition. In 2019, I applied to GSMD, RCM, RAM, RCS, RNCM, and Trinity. I got offers from GSMD, RAM, and Trinity, and reserves from RNCM and RCS. I was rejected from RCM.
Over the last year or so, several people have contacted me asking for advice about the composition application process at UK conservatoires. It can be super hard to find information about it, so I thought I'd share some experiences and advice here.
This advice is based on both my direct experiences, the experiences of others in my class, and conversations I've had later with staff at Guildhall and other conservatoires.
This is just one person's view - please don't take my word as gospel! And I warn you, it may be a bit of a ramble…
Portfolio
Your portfolio is, of course, vital. Variety is important. For mine, I included an experimental vocal piece that I wrote at a summer school, a piece using a lot of electronics with a fairly simple string quintet part, and a romantic-ish piece for two horns and piano. I'm happy to send these to anyone looking for an idea of what level's required.
Panels want to see both creativity and technique - but the former is probably more important than the latter. Technique is easy to teach; creativity less so.
They want to know you'll try exciting, radical, innovative, experimental things. This doesn't mean you need to submit spectral string quartets stuffed full of extended techniques - but you do want to surprise them, if possible. Avoid pastiche string quartets/orchestral action movie cues/Ludovico Einaudi-esque piano minimalism. Show them that you can bring some creative flair to their department. You don't need to be revolutionary, but you do need to demonstrate a bit of originality.
Showing technique is also important, but some weaknesses probably aren’t the end of the world. You might struggle with some parts of the course if your theory isn’t roughly grade 7/8 standard, but you can pick up harmony, counterpoint, and orchestration fairly quickly. And departments are keen to find people doing their own unique thing, so a strong portfolio doesn't have to show a confident grasp of conventional western theory.
Presentation of your scores is important, too! The RNCM panel spotted several errors in my notation ('that dynamic marking should be one semiquaver to the right!'), so show your attention to detail here. Programme notes go down well - Guildhall in particular liked this.
Have a look at some contemporary scores. Faber's perusal scores are fantastic: here's a Tansy Davies one, a David Fennesy one, and a Thomas Ades one, for examples. Note how they're presented, and the kind of performance notes they include. The more professional your scores, the better.
See if you can get a copy of Behind Bars, by Elaine Gould. Most uni libraries will have a copy. It’s the music notation bible.
Handwritten scores (and unconventional notation) go down great both my experimental vocal piece and my short RAM exercise were handwritten, and the panels noticed that. I think it shows that you take care with your work, think about exactly how to notate your intentions, and crucially, that you can work without notation software.
Personal statement
First, if you're applying to both universities and conservatoires, you need two statements. Some of what you say may be the same, but in your university one, you'd focus on your academic skills and interest in musicology, while in your conservatoire one, you'd focus on your practical experience and career ambitions.
I’ve added my (slightly anonymised) statement below. Here are a few suggestions.
Firstly, if you can, show a wide variety of experiences. Ensemble playing, theatre pit bands, small composition projects, competitions, teaching, conducting, recording skills it’s all relevant and useful. They want to know you’ve got what it takes to work as a musician, and that means being flexible, and ideally being able to do a bit of everything.
Try to avoid just listing things you’ve done like a history or English essay, use each experience as evidence for the points you’re making. Talk about what you’ve learned from the experiences. It’s no good just saying you’ve done a lot of stuff tell them you’ve developed as a result.
If you don’t have much experience at the moment, try and find some between now and October! Everything counts. The panels will appreciate that everything is more difficult at the moment, but you’d definitely get extra points for pulling something together virtually!
Generally, showing you are proactive is good news. For example, about a year before I applied, I sent out emails to just about every theatre and dance company I could find near where I lived, asking to collaborate with them. I sent about 50 emails, and got 2 (?) positive replies. But that led to a great project with a dance company, which gave me proper composition work experience: project development, creative teamwork, workshops, composition, sound design, production, etc. Show you will actively seek out opportunities, and not just wait for them to come to you.
(Flipside to this advice: sometimes it's better to be targeted, rather than just firing millions of emails off into the void. Seen a show you really liked? Write to that company specifically, tell them why you love their work, and ask if there's any way you could get involved.)
Secondly, be reflective about your work. Guildhall and RAM both liked that I talked about my weaknesses in my statement. It tells them that you’re honest about your abilities, and that you’re open to being taught.
Lastly, make sure to tell them why you want to go! Let your excitement for composition shine through, and tell them what you expect to gain from going to conservatoire.
Wider reading is still good to include if you have space, as are non-musical activities that demonstrate good personal qualities.
Interview
Next, you will hopefully be called for interviews! Different places vary on their interview rates. In 2019 at least, RCS and Trinity Laban interviewed lots of people, whereas at RAM (anecdotally) if you got an interview, you had a strong chance of getting an offer.
The interview panels are very friendly, but all the preparation you can do counts.
I think the key thing is to show that you are open minded. They want to know that you are teachable; they don’t want people who’ll only ever do one thing and won’t take feedback. I went to my RCS and RNCM interviews, and told them just how much I didn’t like Brahms and Schoenberg. I don’t think this went down well….
I later got some (I think) excellent advice from a uni head of music. In essence, his advice was never to say you don’t like something. Pretty much any music has its respective merits, and if you show that you’re closed off to something, the panel is going to doubt your willingness to be adventurous in your own music. It’s not good to come across (as I am sure I did in the first interviews!) as a music snob.
So, if you dislike Schoenberg, then don’t say: ‘Well, I honestly don’t think that serialism is expressive enough to be considered art.’ Say: ‘I’ve been listening to more Schoenberg lately. I find it challenging to listen to because it’s pretty unfamiliar to me, but I’m starting to learn new ways of approaching it and appreciating it.’ While something may be unfamiliar to you now, show willingness to get to know it and appreciate that you might grow to love it with time.
They’ll all ask you about the music you love and that influences you. I’d say the key thing is to be honest. Don’t talk about something you don’t like just to appear sophisticated and knowledgeable they’ll catch you out quickly! Talk about what you really love and what really excites you.
You don’t need to limit yourself to classical music, either. Feel free to talk about heavy metal, Jacob Collier, some unusual alternative pop, some traditional folk music, an unusual film soundtrack. Just so long as you can offer some thoughtful comments about them!
But probably stay away from the obvious answers. In general, avoid Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin, and stay clear of John Williams and Hans Zimmer. I remember even being warned off Stravinsky and Britten: "everyone will talk about them and they’re just not cool anymore." As far as I can tell, the particular problem with film music is that it suggests you think of music as supporting other mediums, rather than thinking of music as standalone art.
I’d recommend listening to as much new music as you possibly can. Probably prioritise living contemporary classical composers. You can find lots by looking at the faculty of various conservatoires, looking for who gives masterclasses, who wins competitions, whose work is played by contemporary ensembles, etc. If you need inspiration, I’ve added a long list below!
Listen to as much as you can bear, and then tell the panels what you’ve found: what you’ve liked, what’s inspired you, what you’ve struggled with, what reminds you of what, etc…
Look also at the staff members at each department, and try and find some of their work. Get an idea what the staff are doing themselves.
Some places were definitely keen to hear about post-war 20th century composers, so try and learn a bit about people like Stockhausen, Messian, Boulez, Ligeti, Xenakis, Lutoslawski, Feldman, Cage, Part, Reich, Adams, etc. Even if you don’t love them, you might well need to talk about them a bit.
When listening to all these composers, you may find some of it very strange! If possible, try not to let it put you off :smile: Conservatoires want you to know as much other music as possible because it’s a very useful tool for your musical imagination. But this doesn’t mean that if you get in you’ll be stuck writing all atonal or spectral or serial music. Everywhere will be keen to nurture your individual style.
Have a good answer for the question ‘why do you want to come here in particular?’ They want to know that you’ll be a good fit for their particular department, and that your four years there will be well spent. Sometimes a panel will decide you’re just not quite the right fit that’s not a reflection on your abilities, just a matter of aesthetic differences.
When it comes to your own work, again, showing that you are reflective and thoughtful about your work is important. Talk about parts of your pieces that aren’t quite as you’d like. Talk very carefully through your composition process and give detailed reasoning for your artistic decisions. Talk about your original compositional intentions, and how you might attempt the piece differently a second time. Tell them about the sections in your pieces that you really like, and the sections that you think haven’t worked out well.
Talking about a weakness in your piece won’t make them look at your portfolio in a bad light (hopefully!) it’ll show them you’ve got what it takes to develop and become the best composer you possibly can be. They want people who can look at their work with a critical eye.
All additional reading - about any area of music you like - is good too. The more interesting things you have to talk about, the better.
Aural and theory tests
All of the conservatoires I auditioned at (except for RCS) had additional aural and theory tests. The below is my experience in 2019 many departments will have adapted their tests since so that they can be done online.
RNCM had a long online multiple choice test that all the music applicants had to complete. We had to recognise classical works, identify chords, identify intervals, spot errors in four part harmony, analyse unconventional notation, and so on.
Just prior to the composition interview, there were two additional tasks: harmonise a four bar melody in a completely free style (with a piano), and analyse a score extract from an unidentified classical work. I ended up with something from the Rite of Spring: they wanted me to work out what it was, find where the dissonances were in an orchestral chord, and tell them when the Rite of Spring was first performed (I was off by an embarrassingly large margin).
RAM did the composition interview first, then asked me to wait to hear if I’d got through to the academic interview. The academic interview involved identifying intervals and cadences, sight singing, clapping a rhythm, singing and clapping together, and some questions on what I identified as a Beethoven piano sonata. They wanted me to name chords and cadences, talk about era-specific features, give a date for the piece, etc.
RCM’s aural tests were similar to RAM.
Trinity Laban asked me to perform something on my instrument, then listen to some extracts of modern classical pieces. This is where the preparatory listening came in handy there was Stockhausen, Xenakis, Glass, etc.
Guildhall was hard (I thought!). There was a 90 minute (?) written test, involving transcription, harmonisation ‘in a characteristic style,’ and composition (setting a short poem to music, with one voice and one monophonic instrument). We had no piano, except for 15 minutes at a piano at the end to check our work.
They went over the test in the interview, and although I missed out a chunk of the transcription and got some weird chords for the harmonisation, they seemed satisfied that I lived up to approximate A-level music standards.
Other notes
I think there’s a consensus that both unis and conservatoires prefer you to apply to one or the other, not both. I was asked at many of my interviews whether or not I was applying to uni (I wasn’t) I think they want to see that you’re fully committed to practical study. I'd encourage you to decide in advance what you really want to do if you apply for both, you risk disadvantaging yourself in both applications.
I decided not to apply to uni when I realised that even if I got an offer, I wouldn’t take it if I didn’t have any conservatoire offers, I’d just wait a year and re-apply.
On competitiveness: there aren’t many places, but there also aren’t *that* many applicants. In the UK, composition departments seem to admit between 3 and 8 people each year, out of anywhere from 50-100 applicants. It’s a total guess, but I’d say an admission rate of around 10-20% is about average.
Personal statement
I want to make music that excites listeners, and stays with them. Sometimes, I have achieved this. When [a recent piece] was performed at a composition course, I was delighted to see the audience react with surprise, amusement, unease and intrigue. I want to study composition to better understand how this works, and how to evoke emotion with sound.
I started learning the horn aged seven. My teacher uses improvisation from day one, and encourages her pupils to compose for the class as soon as possible. From this background, I have now written and performed concert pieces, and music for theatre, dance, radio drama, art installations and film.
To develop as a composer, I have sought a wide variety of opportunities. I have taken part in courses run by Sound and Music, and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. After two unsuccessful entries, I won the Royal Opera House's Fanfare competition and had my piece recorded by the Orchestra. Four times, I have written music for the 'Play in a Day' project at [a university’s] Creative Writing Summer School. In one day, four groups of students write a short radio drama, while I devise music for each.
Currently, I am writing and producing the soundtrack to [show name], a contemporary dance project by [a young professional company]. The music is inspired by swing-era jazz, pop and musical theatre. I have also begun writing for my school's production of [play].
Looking to the future, I am working to establish an experimental ensemble at my school. We will explore graphic scores, electronics, chance, theatre and other elements.
However, I have found gaps in my knowledge. I tend to overcomplicate, when simplicity and sparseness would be more powerful. I struggle with maintaining energy in slower, more reflective pieces. I need to develop my ability in classical harmony and counterpoint.
In addition to these core skills, I believe a conservatoire will offer me chances to collaborate with ensembles and productions, and will expose me to a wider musical world. I will develop my musicianship: skills including performing, conducting, and rehearsing.
I have extensive practical musical experience. In addition to composition, I play horn and keyboard, and sing. I have played with [semi-pro orchestra] and [a national youth orchestra] and took part in the world premiere of [piece] by [famous American composer]. I have also played for school productions of [musical] and [musical], and have a good understanding of jazz performance. I have participated in conducting workshops with [conductor] and [conductor], have organised school concerts, and stage managed musical theatre.
As a result, I have discovered the value of collaboration. I have learnt to pay close attention to the needs of the team and the production. I see the importance of meticulous organisation and preparation, of being able to explain each of my musical decisions, working proactively, and writing quickly when needed.
I have gained other valuable skills for academic and professional life. I was the winner of the UK Supreme Court’s student writing competition, with an essay about the disproportionate use of secret evidence in court. I was a member of the Scottish Youth Parliament, and argued for [----] in front of a Scottish Parliament committee. I have an analytical mind, and an ability to find the root of a problem quickly.
I will involve myself in the life of a conservatoire with enthusiasm and curiosity.
Contemporary composers to listen to!
Some personal (mainly 21st century) recommendations!
Andrew Norman
Cassandra Miller
Catherine Lamb
Dai Fujikura
David Fennessy
David T Little
Dobrinka Tabakova
Du Yun
Eliane Radigue
Ellen Reid
Errollyn Wallen
Esa-Pekka Salonen
Eve Beglarian
Gavin Bryars
Jennifer Higdon
Jennifer Walshe
Jessie Montgomery
Joanna Bailie
John Luther Adams
Judd Greenstein
Julia Wolfe
Julian Anderson
Kate Soper
Laurence Crane
Laurie Anderson
Meredith Monk
Michael Finnissy
Missy Mazzoli
Neil Luck
Nico Muhly
Paul Newland
R Murray Schafer
Robin Haigh
Sarah Kirkland Snyder
Stuart Macrae
Tansy Davies
Thomas Ades
Toby Young
Unsuk Chin
These composers are also very very cool
Alexander Goehr
Berio
Birtwhistle
Boulez
Cage
Claude Vivier
David Lang
Einojuhani Rautavaara
Elliott Carter
Feldman
Ferneyhough
Georg Friederich Haas
George Benjamin
George Crumb
Glass
Grisey
Hans Abrahamsen
Harry Partch
Henry Cowell
Howard Skempton
Ives
James MacMillan
James Saunders
John Adams
Jonathan Harvey
Kaija Saariaho
Knussen
Kurtag
Lachenmann
LaMonte Young
Ligeti
Linda Catlin Smith
Louis Andriessen
Luigi Nono
Lutoslawski
Marc Sabat
Mark-Anthony Turnage
Maxwell Davies
Messiaen
Milhaud
Milton Babbitt
Nancarrow
Part
Pauline Oliveros
Peteris Vasks
Philip Cashian
Pierre Schaeffer
Radulescu
Reich
Scelsi
Simon Bainbridge
Sofia Gubaidulina
Stockhausen
Terry Riley
Tippett
Varese
Xenakis
Some extra scores to look at
Catherine Lamb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAN3yCtlkf0
Joanna Bailie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWrsqDSL_eU
Kate Soper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWHGx-LRL4
Tansy Davies - https://www.fabermusic.com/music/neon-4806/score
Also, anything on the ScoreFollower YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScoreFollower/videos

can anyone watch my portfolio and see if i have a chance of getting into a conservatoire for composition? I have previous work experience composing for film, and other previous work experience in composition as well. TIA

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by Louismusic01
can anyone watch my portfolio and see if i have a chance of getting into a conservatoire for composition? I have previous work experience composing for film, and other previous work experience in composition as well. TIA

DM me!

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by KitM
EDIT TO MY ORIGNAL POST
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Please DM me your email, and I'll send things over.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I'm now in my final year at Guildhall, and have a decent understanding of the admission process. Again, send me a DM if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.

Hi unfortunately I can't DM you. I would love some advice on my portfolio if it's possible to dm me?

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by louisc67
Hi unfortunately I can't DM you. I would love some advice on my portfolio if it's possible to dm me?
Sure thing

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Original post
by KitM
EDIT (October 2023)
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Please DM me your email, and I'll send things over.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I'm now in my final year at Guildhall, and have a decent understanding of the admission process. Again, send me a DM if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.
Hello!
I'm entering second year at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama, studying classical composition. In 2019, I applied to GSMD, RCM, RAM, RCS, RNCM, and Trinity. I got offers from GSMD, RAM, and Trinity, and reserves from RNCM and RCS. I was rejected from RCM.
Over the last year or so, several people have contacted me asking for advice about the composition application process at UK conservatoires. It can be super hard to find information about it, so I thought I'd share some experiences and advice here.
This advice is based on both my direct experiences, the experiences of others in my class, and conversations I've had later with staff at Guildhall and other conservatoires.
This is just one person's view - please don't take my word as gospel! And I warn you, it may be a bit of a ramble…
Portfolio
Your portfolio is, of course, vital. Variety is important. For mine, I included an experimental vocal piece that I wrote at a summer school, a piece using a lot of electronics with a fairly simple string quintet part, and a romantic-ish piece for two horns and piano. I'm happy to send these to anyone looking for an idea of what level's required.
Panels want to see both creativity and technique - but the former is probably more important than the latter. Technique is easy to teach; creativity less so.
They want to know you'll try exciting, radical, innovative, experimental things. This doesn't mean you need to submit spectral string quartets stuffed full of extended techniques - but you do want to surprise them, if possible. Avoid pastiche string quartets/orchestral action movie cues/Ludovico Einaudi-esque piano minimalism. Show them that you can bring some creative flair to their department. You don't need to be revolutionary, but you do need to demonstrate a bit of originality.
Showing technique is also important, but some weaknesses probably aren’t the end of the world. You might struggle with some parts of the course if your theory isn’t roughly grade 7/8 standard, but you can pick up harmony, counterpoint, and orchestration fairly quickly. And departments are keen to find people doing their own unique thing, so a strong portfolio doesn't have to show a confident grasp of conventional western theory.
Presentation of your scores is important, too! The RNCM panel spotted several errors in my notation ('that dynamic marking should be one semiquaver to the right!'), so show your attention to detail here. Programme notes go down well - Guildhall in particular liked this.
Have a look at some contemporary scores. Faber's perusal scores are fantastic: here's a Tansy Davies one, a David Fennesy one, and a Thomas Ades one, for examples. Note how they're presented, and the kind of performance notes they include. The more professional your scores, the better.
See if you can get a copy of Behind Bars, by Elaine Gould. Most uni libraries will have a copy. It’s the music notation bible.
Handwritten scores (and unconventional notation) go down great both my experimental vocal piece and my short RAM exercise were handwritten, and the panels noticed that. I think it shows that you take care with your work, think about exactly how to notate your intentions, and crucially, that you can work without notation software.
Personal statement
First, if you're applying to both universities and conservatoires, you need two statements. Some of what you say may be the same, but in your university one, you'd focus on your academic skills and interest in musicology, while in your conservatoire one, you'd focus on your practical experience and career ambitions.
I’ve added my (slightly anonymised) statement below. Here are a few suggestions.
Firstly, if you can, show a wide variety of experiences. Ensemble playing, theatre pit bands, small composition projects, competitions, teaching, conducting, recording skills it’s all relevant and useful. They want to know you’ve got what it takes to work as a musician, and that means being flexible, and ideally being able to do a bit of everything.
Try to avoid just listing things you’ve done like a history or English essay, use each experience as evidence for the points you’re making. Talk about what you’ve learned from the experiences. It’s no good just saying you’ve done a lot of stuff tell them you’ve developed as a result.
If you don’t have much experience at the moment, try and find some between now and October! Everything counts. The panels will appreciate that everything is more difficult at the moment, but you’d definitely get extra points for pulling something together virtually!
Generally, showing you are proactive is good news. For example, about a year before I applied, I sent out emails to just about every theatre and dance company I could find near where I lived, asking to collaborate with them. I sent about 50 emails, and got 2 (?) positive replies. But that led to a great project with a dance company, which gave me proper composition work experience: project development, creative teamwork, workshops, composition, sound design, production, etc. Show you will actively seek out opportunities, and not just wait for them to come to you.
(Flipside to this advice: sometimes it's better to be targeted, rather than just firing millions of emails off into the void. Seen a show you really liked? Write to that company specifically, tell them why you love their work, and ask if there's any way you could get involved.)
Secondly, be reflective about your work. Guildhall and RAM both liked that I talked about my weaknesses in my statement. It tells them that you’re honest about your abilities, and that you’re open to being taught.
Lastly, make sure to tell them why you want to go! Let your excitement for composition shine through, and tell them what you expect to gain from going to conservatoire.
Wider reading is still good to include if you have space, as are non-musical activities that demonstrate good personal qualities.
Interview
Next, you will hopefully be called for interviews! Different places vary on their interview rates. In 2019 at least, RCS and Trinity Laban interviewed lots of people, whereas at RAM (anecdotally) if you got an interview, you had a strong chance of getting an offer.
The interview panels are very friendly, but all the preparation you can do counts.
I think the key thing is to show that you are open minded. They want to know that you are teachable; they don’t want people who’ll only ever do one thing and won’t take feedback. I went to my RCS and RNCM interviews, and told them just how much I didn’t like Brahms and Schoenberg. I don’t think this went down well….
I later got some (I think) excellent advice from a uni head of music. In essence, his advice was never to say you don’t like something. Pretty much any music has its respective merits, and if you show that you’re closed off to something, the panel is going to doubt your willingness to be adventurous in your own music. It’s not good to come across (as I am sure I did in the first interviews!) as a music snob.
So, if you dislike Schoenberg, then don’t say: ‘Well, I honestly don’t think that serialism is expressive enough to be considered art.’ Say: ‘I’ve been listening to more Schoenberg lately. I find it challenging to listen to because it’s pretty unfamiliar to me, but I’m starting to learn new ways of approaching it and appreciating it.’ While something may be unfamiliar to you now, show willingness to get to know it and appreciate that you might grow to love it with time.
They’ll all ask you about the music you love and that influences you. I’d say the key thing is to be honest. Don’t talk about something you don’t like just to appear sophisticated and knowledgeable they’ll catch you out quickly! Talk about what you really love and what really excites you.
You don’t need to limit yourself to classical music, either. Feel free to talk about heavy metal, Jacob Collier, some unusual alternative pop, some traditional folk music, an unusual film soundtrack. Just so long as you can offer some thoughtful comments about them!
But probably stay away from the obvious answers. In general, avoid Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin, and stay clear of John Williams and Hans Zimmer. I remember even being warned off Stravinsky and Britten: "everyone will talk about them and they’re just not cool anymore." As far as I can tell, the particular problem with film music is that it suggests you think of music as supporting other mediums, rather than thinking of music as standalone art.
I’d recommend listening to as much new music as you possibly can. Probably prioritise living contemporary classical composers. You can find lots by looking at the faculty of various conservatoires, looking for who gives masterclasses, who wins competitions, whose work is played by contemporary ensembles, etc. If you need inspiration, I’ve added a long list below!
Listen to as much as you can bear, and then tell the panels what you’ve found: what you’ve liked, what’s inspired you, what you’ve struggled with, what reminds you of what, etc…
Look also at the staff members at each department, and try and find some of their work. Get an idea what the staff are doing themselves.
Some places were definitely keen to hear about post-war 20th century composers, so try and learn a bit about people like Stockhausen, Messian, Boulez, Ligeti, Xenakis, Lutoslawski, Feldman, Cage, Part, Reich, Adams, etc. Even if you don’t love them, you might well need to talk about them a bit.
When listening to all these composers, you may find some of it very strange! If possible, try not to let it put you off :smile: Conservatoires want you to know as much other music as possible because it’s a very useful tool for your musical imagination. But this doesn’t mean that if you get in you’ll be stuck writing all atonal or spectral or serial music. Everywhere will be keen to nurture your individual style.
Have a good answer for the question ‘why do you want to come here in particular?’ They want to know that you’ll be a good fit for their particular department, and that your four years there will be well spent. Sometimes a panel will decide you’re just not quite the right fit that’s not a reflection on your abilities, just a matter of aesthetic differences.
When it comes to your own work, again, showing that you are reflective and thoughtful about your work is important. Talk about parts of your pieces that aren’t quite as you’d like. Talk very carefully through your composition process and give detailed reasoning for your artistic decisions. Talk about your original compositional intentions, and how you might attempt the piece differently a second time. Tell them about the sections in your pieces that you really like, and the sections that you think haven’t worked out well.
Talking about a weakness in your piece won’t make them look at your portfolio in a bad light (hopefully!) it’ll show them you’ve got what it takes to develop and become the best composer you possibly can be. They want people who can look at their work with a critical eye.
All additional reading - about any area of music you like - is good too. The more interesting things you have to talk about, the better.
Aural and theory tests
All of the conservatoires I auditioned at (except for RCS) had additional aural and theory tests. The below is my experience in 2019 many departments will have adapted their tests since so that they can be done online.
RNCM had a long online multiple choice test that all the music applicants had to complete. We had to recognise classical works, identify chords, identify intervals, spot errors in four part harmony, analyse unconventional notation, and so on.
Just prior to the composition interview, there were two additional tasks: harmonise a four bar melody in a completely free style (with a piano), and analyse a score extract from an unidentified classical work. I ended up with something from the Rite of Spring: they wanted me to work out what it was, find where the dissonances were in an orchestral chord, and tell them when the Rite of Spring was first performed (I was off by an embarrassingly large margin).
RAM did the composition interview first, then asked me to wait to hear if I’d got through to the academic interview. The academic interview involved identifying intervals and cadences, sight singing, clapping a rhythm, singing and clapping together, and some questions on what I identified as a Beethoven piano sonata. They wanted me to name chords and cadences, talk about era-specific features, give a date for the piece, etc.
RCM’s aural tests were similar to RAM.
Trinity Laban asked me to perform something on my instrument, then listen to some extracts of modern classical pieces. This is where the preparatory listening came in handy there was Stockhausen, Xenakis, Glass, etc.
Guildhall was hard (I thought!). There was a 90 minute (?) written test, involving transcription, harmonisation ‘in a characteristic style,’ and composition (setting a short poem to music, with one voice and one monophonic instrument). We had no piano, except for 15 minutes at a piano at the end to check our work.
They went over the test in the interview, and although I missed out a chunk of the transcription and got some weird chords for the harmonisation, they seemed satisfied that I lived up to approximate A-level music standards.
Other notes
I think there’s a consensus that both unis and conservatoires prefer you to apply to one or the other, not both. I was asked at many of my interviews whether or not I was applying to uni (I wasn’t) I think they want to see that you’re fully committed to practical study. I'd encourage you to decide in advance what you really want to do if you apply for both, you risk disadvantaging yourself in both applications.
I decided not to apply to uni when I realised that even if I got an offer, I wouldn’t take it if I didn’t have any conservatoire offers, I’d just wait a year and re-apply.
On competitiveness: there aren’t many places, but there also aren’t *that* many applicants. In the UK, composition departments seem to admit between 3 and 8 people each year, out of anywhere from 50-100 applicants. It’s a total guess, but I’d say an admission rate of around 10-20% is about average.
Personal statement
I want to make music that excites listeners, and stays with them. Sometimes, I have achieved this. When [a recent piece] was performed at a composition course, I was delighted to see the audience react with surprise, amusement, unease and intrigue. I want to study composition to better understand how this works, and how to evoke emotion with sound.
I started learning the horn aged seven. My teacher uses improvisation from day one, and encourages her pupils to compose for the class as soon as possible. From this background, I have now written and performed concert pieces, and music for theatre, dance, radio drama, art installations and film.
To develop as a composer, I have sought a wide variety of opportunities. I have taken part in courses run by Sound and Music, and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. After two unsuccessful entries, I won the Royal Opera House's Fanfare competition and had my piece recorded by the Orchestra. Four times, I have written music for the 'Play in a Day' project at [a university’s] Creative Writing Summer School. In one day, four groups of students write a short radio drama, while I devise music for each.
Currently, I am writing and producing the soundtrack to [show name], a contemporary dance project by [a young professional company]. The music is inspired by swing-era jazz, pop and musical theatre. I have also begun writing for my school's production of [play].
Looking to the future, I am working to establish an experimental ensemble at my school. We will explore graphic scores, electronics, chance, theatre and other elements.
However, I have found gaps in my knowledge. I tend to overcomplicate, when simplicity and sparseness would be more powerful. I struggle with maintaining energy in slower, more reflective pieces. I need to develop my ability in classical harmony and counterpoint.
In addition to these core skills, I believe a conservatoire will offer me chances to collaborate with ensembles and productions, and will expose me to a wider musical world. I will develop my musicianship: skills including performing, conducting, and rehearsing.
I have extensive practical musical experience. In addition to composition, I play horn and keyboard, and sing. I have played with [semi-pro orchestra] and [a national youth orchestra] and took part in the world premiere of [piece] by [famous American composer]. I have also played for school productions of [musical] and [musical], and have a good understanding of jazz performance. I have participated in conducting workshops with [conductor] and [conductor], have organised school concerts, and stage managed musical theatre.
As a result, I have discovered the value of collaboration. I have learnt to pay close attention to the needs of the team and the production. I see the importance of meticulous organisation and preparation, of being able to explain each of my musical decisions, working proactively, and writing quickly when needed.
I have gained other valuable skills for academic and professional life. I was the winner of the UK Supreme Court’s student writing competition, with an essay about the disproportionate use of secret evidence in court. I was a member of the Scottish Youth Parliament, and argued for [----] in front of a Scottish Parliament committee. I have an analytical mind, and an ability to find the root of a problem quickly.
I will involve myself in the life of a conservatoire with enthusiasm and curiosity.
Contemporary composers to listen to!
Some personal (mainly 21st century) recommendations!
Andrew Norman
Cassandra Miller
Catherine Lamb
Dai Fujikura
David Fennessy
David T Little
Dobrinka Tabakova
Du Yun
Eliane Radigue
Ellen Reid
Errollyn Wallen
Esa-Pekka Salonen
Eve Beglarian
Gavin Bryars
Jennifer Higdon
Jennifer Walshe
Jessie Montgomery
Joanna Bailie
John Luther Adams
Judd Greenstein
Julia Wolfe
Julian Anderson
Kate Soper
Laurence Crane
Laurie Anderson
Meredith Monk
Michael Finnissy
Missy Mazzoli
Neil Luck
Nico Muhly
Paul Newland
R Murray Schafer
Robin Haigh
Sarah Kirkland Snyder
Stuart Macrae
Tansy Davies
Thomas Ades
Toby Young
Unsuk Chin
These composers are also very very cool
Alexander Goehr
Berio
Birtwhistle
Boulez
Cage
Claude Vivier
David Lang
Einojuhani Rautavaara
Elliott Carter
Feldman
Ferneyhough
Georg Friederich Haas
George Benjamin
George Crumb
Glass
Grisey
Hans Abrahamsen
Harry Partch
Henry Cowell
Howard Skempton
Ives
James MacMillan
James Saunders
John Adams
Jonathan Harvey
Kaija Saariaho
Knussen
Kurtag
Lachenmann
LaMonte Young
Ligeti
Linda Catlin Smith
Louis Andriessen
Luigi Nono
Lutoslawski
Marc Sabat
Mark-Anthony Turnage
Maxwell Davies
Messiaen
Milhaud
Milton Babbitt
Nancarrow
Part
Pauline Oliveros
Peteris Vasks
Philip Cashian
Pierre Schaeffer
Radulescu
Reich
Scelsi
Simon Bainbridge
Sofia Gubaidulina
Stockhausen
Terry Riley
Tippett
Varese
Xenakis
Some extra scores to look at
Catherine Lamb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAN3yCtlkf0
Joanna Bailie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWrsqDSL_eU
Kate Soper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWHGx-LRL4
Tansy Davies - https://www.fabermusic.com/music/neon-4806/score
Also, anything on the ScoreFollower YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScoreFollower/videos


Hi!
Thank you for this post, I was going crazy searching for something like this!
I'm thinking about applying next year for composition, and it would be useful to know the level required, so, can I see your portfolio?
I can't send DM, can you DM me?
Hope I'm not too late! Thank you again!

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Hi KitM,
Thank you for taking the time to share this. Definitely most helpful post for me since 2022!
I'm applying for BMus degrees in universities & conservatoires this year. due to the limitation of resources(collaborations/competitions etc.) in my resident country, I'm not quite sure where my level is comparing to the required level for admission. Can you please share your portfolio with me if possible? I'm also interested in the online composition lessons.
Unfortunately I can't DM you now, could you please DM me?

Reply 32

Original post
by Fjan
Hi!
Thank you for this post, I was going crazy searching for something like this!
I'm thinking about applying next year for composition, and it would be useful to know the level required, so, can I see your portfolio?
I can't send DM, can you DM me?
Hope I'm not too late! Thank you again!

I will DM you now. Sorry for the delay; I've stopped getting notifications from this thread for some reason.

Reply 33

Original post
by ' '"
Hi KitM,
Thank you for taking the time to share this. Definitely most helpful post for me since 2022!
I'm applying for BMus degrees in universities & conservatoires this year. due to the limitation of resources(collaborations/competitions etc.) in my resident country, I'm not quite sure where my level is comparing to the required level for admission. Can you please share your portfolio with me if possible? I'm also interested in the online composition lessons.
Unfortunately I can't DM you now, could you please DM me?

Hi! I'll DM you now. Sorry for the delay; I've stopped getting notifications from this thread for some reason.

Reply 34

As application/interview time is coming round again, this is my semi-regular reminder that I offer composition lessons and coaching for conservatoire applications, either over Zoom or in/around London. My rates are very competitive, and I've an excellent track record of helping applicants get offers, including from Guildhall, RAM, and RNCM.

I've now graduated from Guildhall with a first-class honours degree; I also won the school's undergraduate composition prize.

Let me know if you'd like to know more!
(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 35

Hey KitM,
Thank you for writing out this thread, it has been difficult to find information and this definitely helps. I am considering applying for composition next year, but find it hard to guage the required level and my relation to it. I would be very curious to see your portfolio and perhaps take a lesson. Like other people in this thread, I cannot currently send you a private message. Can you send me a DM instead? Thanks again for the detailed thread!

Reply 36

Original post
by KitM
As application/interview time is coming round again, this is my semi-regular reminder that I offer composition lessons and coaching for conservatoire applications, either over Zoom or in/around London. My rates are very competitive, and I've an excellent track record of helping applicants get offers, including from Guildhall, RAM, and RNCM.
I've now graduated from Guildhall with a first-class honours degree; I also won the school's undergraduate composition prize.
Let me know if you'd like to know more!


Hey KitM,
Your thread was so insightful about applying and doing so well for composition at Guildhall. Although I am not applying to Guildhall, but Edinburgh Napier for music composition, I was wondering if I was able to use my current compositions for my portfolio, or do I have to make some new ones, and if I was possibly able to get any feedback on them, or general advice how to apply to a composition course. Thank you very much!! 💞💞
-m

Reply 37

Original post
by F0lk_l0RE
Hey KitM,
Your thread was so insightful about applying and doing so well for composition at Guildhall. Although I am not applying to Guildhall, but Edinburgh Napier for music composition, I was wondering if I was able to use my current compositions for my portfolio, or do I have to make some new ones, and if I was possibly able to get any feedback on them, or general advice how to apply to a composition course. Thank you very much!! 💞💞
-m

I'll send you a DM!

Reply 38

Original post
by KitM
EDIT (August 2024)
1. I'm always happy to send my application portfolio to anyone who'd like to see it. Let me know, and we can get in touch over DM.
2. Shameless self-promotion, but: I offer online composition lessons for very competitive prices! I can help with your folio, with personal statements, interview prep, whatever would be useful. I've now done a lot of this, and have extensive experience coaching for conservatoire applications. I've just graduated from Guildhall with a first-class honours degree; I also won the school's undergraduate composition prize. Again, let me know if you'd like to know more! I wrote the advice below a while ago, and there are some things I'd put differently now.
Hello!
I'm entering second year at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama, studying classical composition. In 2019, I applied to GSMD, RCM, RAM, RCS, RNCM, and Trinity. I got offers from GSMD, RAM, and Trinity, and reserves from RNCM and RCS. I was rejected from RCM.
Over the last year or so, several people have contacted me asking for advice about the composition application process at UK conservatoires. It can be super hard to find information about it, so I thought I'd share some experiences and advice here.
This advice is based on both my direct experiences, the experiences of others in my class, and conversations I've had later with staff at Guildhall and other conservatoires.
This is just one person's view - please don't take my word as gospel! And I warn you, it may be a bit of a ramble…
Portfolio
Your portfolio is, of course, vital. Variety is important. For mine, I included an experimental vocal piece that I wrote at a summer school, a piece using a lot of electronics with a fairly simple string quintet part, and a romantic-ish piece for two horns and piano. I'm happy to send these to anyone looking for an idea of what level's required.
Panels want to see both creativity and technique - but the former is probably more important than the latter. Technique is easy to teach; creativity less so.
They want to know you'll try exciting, radical, innovative, experimental things. This doesn't mean you need to submit spectral string quartets stuffed full of extended techniques - but you do want to surprise them, if possible. Avoid pastiche string quartets/orchestral action movie cues/Ludovico Einaudi-esque piano minimalism. Show them that you can bring some creative flair to their department. You don't need to be revolutionary, but you do need to demonstrate a bit of originality.
Showing technique is also important, but some weaknesses probably aren’t the end of the world. You might struggle with some parts of the course if your theory isn’t roughly grade 7/8 standard, but you can pick up harmony, counterpoint, and orchestration fairly quickly. And departments are keen to find people doing their own unique thing, so a strong portfolio doesn't have to show a confident grasp of conventional western theory.
Presentation of your scores is important, too! The RNCM panel spotted several errors in my notation ('that dynamic marking should be one semiquaver to the right!'), so show your attention to detail here. Programme notes go down well - Guildhall in particular liked this.
Have a look at some contemporary scores. Faber's perusal scores are fantastic: here's a Tansy Davies one, a David Fennesy one, and a Thomas Ades one, for examples. Note how they're presented, and the kind of performance notes they include. The more professional your scores, the better.
See if you can get a copy of Behind Bars, by Elaine Gould. Most uni libraries will have a copy. It’s the music notation bible.
Handwritten scores (and unconventional notation) go down great both my experimental vocal piece and my short RAM exercise were handwritten, and the panels noticed that. I think it shows that you take care with your work, think about exactly how to notate your intentions, and crucially, that you can work without notation software.
Personal statement
First, if you're applying to both universities and conservatoires, you need two statements. Some of what you say may be the same, but in your university one, you'd focus on your academic skills and interest in musicology, while in your conservatoire one, you'd focus on your practical experience and career ambitions.
I’ve added my (slightly anonymised) statement below. Here are a few suggestions.
Firstly, if you can, show a wide variety of experiences. Ensemble playing, theatre pit bands, small composition projects, competitions, teaching, conducting, recording skills it’s all relevant and useful. They want to know you’ve got what it takes to work as a musician, and that means being flexible, and ideally being able to do a bit of everything.
Try to avoid just listing things you’ve done like a history or English essay, use each experience as evidence for the points you’re making. Talk about what you’ve learned from the experiences. It’s no good just saying you’ve done a lot of stuff tell them you’ve developed as a result.
If you don’t have much experience at the moment, try and find some between now and October! Everything counts. The panels will appreciate that everything is more difficult at the moment, but you’d definitely get extra points for pulling something together virtually!
Generally, showing you are proactive is good news. For example, about a year before I applied, I sent out emails to just about every theatre and dance company I could find near where I lived, asking to collaborate with them. I sent about 50 emails, and got 2 (?) positive replies. But that led to a great project with a dance company, which gave me proper composition work experience: project development, creative teamwork, workshops, composition, sound design, production, etc. Show you will actively seek out opportunities, and not just wait for them to come to you.
(Flipside to this advice: sometimes it's better to be targeted, rather than just firing millions of emails off into the void. Seen a show you really liked? Write to that company specifically, tell them why you love their work, and ask if there's any way you could get involved.)
Secondly, be reflective about your work. Guildhall and RAM both liked that I talked about my weaknesses in my statement. It tells them that you’re honest about your abilities, and that you’re open to being taught.
Lastly, make sure to tell them why you want to go! Let your excitement for composition shine through, and tell them what you expect to gain from going to conservatoire.
Wider reading is still good to include if you have space, as are non-musical activities that demonstrate good personal qualities.
Interview
Next, you will hopefully be called for interviews! Different places vary on their interview rates. In 2019 at least, RCS and Trinity Laban interviewed lots of people, whereas at RAM (anecdotally) if you got an interview, you had a strong chance of getting an offer.
The interview panels are very friendly, but all the preparation you can do counts.
I think the key thing is to show that you are open minded. They want to know that you are teachable; they don’t want people who’ll only ever do one thing and won’t take feedback. I went to my RCS and RNCM interviews, and told them just how much I didn’t like Brahms and Schoenberg. I don’t think this went down well….
I later got some (I think) excellent advice from a uni head of music. In essence, his advice was never to say you don’t like something. Pretty much any music has its respective merits, and if you show that you’re closed off to something, the panel is going to doubt your willingness to be adventurous in your own music. It’s not good to come across (as I am sure I did in the first interviews!) as a music snob.
So, if you dislike Schoenberg, then don’t say: ‘Well, I honestly don’t think that serialism is expressive enough to be considered art.’ Say: ‘I’ve been listening to more Schoenberg lately. I find it challenging to listen to because it’s pretty unfamiliar to me, but I’m starting to learn new ways of approaching it and appreciating it.’ While something may be unfamiliar to you now, show willingness to get to know it and appreciate that you might grow to love it with time.
They’ll all ask you about the music you love and that influences you. I’d say the key thing is to be honest. Don’t talk about something you don’t like just to appear sophisticated and knowledgeable they’ll catch you out quickly! Talk about what you really love and what really excites you.
You don’t need to limit yourself to classical music, either. Feel free to talk about heavy metal, Jacob Collier, some unusual alternative pop, some traditional folk music, an unusual film soundtrack. Just so long as you can offer some thoughtful comments about them!
But probably stay away from the obvious answers. In general, avoid Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin, and stay clear of John Williams and Hans Zimmer. I remember even being warned off Stravinsky and Britten: "everyone will talk about them and they’re just not cool anymore." As far as I can tell, the particular problem with film music is that it suggests you think of music as supporting other mediums, rather than thinking of music as standalone art.
I’d recommend listening to as much new music as you possibly can. Probably prioritise living contemporary classical composers. You can find lots by looking at the faculty of various conservatoires, looking for who gives masterclasses, who wins competitions, whose work is played by contemporary ensembles, etc. If you need inspiration, I’ve added a long list below!
Listen to as much as you can bear, and then tell the panels what you’ve found: what you’ve liked, what’s inspired you, what you’ve struggled with, what reminds you of what, etc…
Look also at the staff members at each department, and try and find some of their work. Get an idea what the staff are doing themselves.
Some places were definitely keen to hear about post-war 20th century composers, so try and learn a bit about people like Stockhausen, Messian, Boulez, Ligeti, Xenakis, Lutoslawski, Feldman, Cage, Part, Reich, Adams, etc. Even if you don’t love them, you might well need to talk about them a bit.
When listening to all these composers, you may find some of it very strange! If possible, try not to let it put you off :smile: Conservatoires want you to know as much other music as possible because it’s a very useful tool for your musical imagination. But this doesn’t mean that if you get in you’ll be stuck writing all atonal or spectral or serial music. Everywhere will be keen to nurture your individual style.
Have a good answer for the question ‘why do you want to come here in particular?’ They want to know that you’ll be a good fit for their particular department, and that your four years there will be well spent. Sometimes a panel will decide you’re just not quite the right fit that’s not a reflection on your abilities, just a matter of aesthetic differences.
When it comes to your own work, again, showing that you are reflective and thoughtful about your work is important. Talk about parts of your pieces that aren’t quite as you’d like. Talk very carefully through your composition process and give detailed reasoning for your artistic decisions. Talk about your original compositional intentions, and how you might attempt the piece differently a second time. Tell them about the sections in your pieces that you really like, and the sections that you think haven’t worked out well.
Talking about a weakness in your piece won’t make them look at your portfolio in a bad light (hopefully!) it’ll show them you’ve got what it takes to develop and become the best composer you possibly can be. They want people who can look at their work with a critical eye.
All additional reading - about any area of music you like - is good too. The more interesting things you have to talk about, the better.
Aural and theory tests
All of the conservatoires I auditioned at (except for RCS) had additional aural and theory tests. The below is my experience in 2019 many departments will have adapted their tests since so that they can be done online.
RNCM had a long online multiple choice test that all the music applicants had to complete. We had to recognise classical works, identify chords, identify intervals, spot errors in four part harmony, analyse unconventional notation, and so on.
Just prior to the composition interview, there were two additional tasks: harmonise a four bar melody in a completely free style (with a piano), and analyse a score extract from an unidentified classical work. I ended up with something from the Rite of Spring: they wanted me to work out what it was, find where the dissonances were in an orchestral chord, and tell them when the Rite of Spring was first performed (I was off by an embarrassingly large margin).
RAM did the composition interview first, then asked me to wait to hear if I’d got through to the academic interview. The academic interview involved identifying intervals and cadences, sight singing, clapping a rhythm, singing and clapping together, and some questions on what I identified as a Beethoven piano sonata. They wanted me to name chords and cadences, talk about era-specific features, give a date for the piece, etc.
RCM’s aural tests were similar to RAM.
Trinity Laban asked me to perform something on my instrument, then listen to some extracts of modern classical pieces. This is where the preparatory listening came in handy there was Stockhausen, Xenakis, Glass, etc.
Guildhall was hard (I thought!). There was a 90 minute (?) written test, involving transcription, harmonisation ‘in a characteristic style,’ and composition (setting a short poem to music, with one voice and one monophonic instrument). We had no piano, except for 15 minutes at a piano at the end to check our work.
They went over the test in the interview, and although I missed out a chunk of the transcription and got some weird chords for the harmonisation, they seemed satisfied that I lived up to approximate A-level music standards.
Other notes
I think there’s a consensus that both unis and conservatoires prefer you to apply to one or the other, not both. I was asked at many of my interviews whether or not I was applying to uni (I wasn’t) I think they want to see that you’re fully committed to practical study. I'd encourage you to decide in advance what you really want to do if you apply for both, you risk disadvantaging yourself in both applications.
I decided not to apply to uni when I realised that even if I got an offer, I wouldn’t take it if I didn’t have any conservatoire offers, I’d just wait a year and re-apply.
On competitiveness: there aren’t many places, but there also aren’t *that* many applicants. In the UK, composition departments seem to admit between 3 and 8 people each year, out of anywhere from 50-100 applicants. It’s a total guess, but I’d say an admission rate of around 10-20% is about average.
Personal statement
I want to make music that excites listeners, and stays with them. Sometimes, I have achieved this. When [a recent piece] was performed at a composition course, I was delighted to see the audience react with surprise, amusement, unease and intrigue. I want to study composition to better understand how this works, and how to evoke emotion with sound.
I started learning the horn aged seven. My teacher uses improvisation from day one, and encourages her pupils to compose for the class as soon as possible. From this background, I have now written and performed concert pieces, and music for theatre, dance, radio drama, art installations and film.
To develop as a composer, I have sought a wide variety of opportunities. I have taken part in courses run by Sound and Music, and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. After two unsuccessful entries, I won the Royal Opera House's Fanfare competition and had my piece recorded by the Orchestra. Four times, I have written music for the 'Play in a Day' project at [a university’s] Creative Writing Summer School. In one day, four groups of students write a short radio drama, while I devise music for each.
Currently, I am writing and producing the soundtrack to [show name], a contemporary dance project by [a young professional company]. The music is inspired by swing-era jazz, pop and musical theatre. I have also begun writing for my school's production of [play].
Looking to the future, I am working to establish an experimental ensemble at my school. We will explore graphic scores, electronics, chance, theatre and other elements.
However, I have found gaps in my knowledge. I tend to overcomplicate, when simplicity and sparseness would be more powerful. I struggle with maintaining energy in slower, more reflective pieces. I need to develop my ability in classical harmony and counterpoint.
In addition to these core skills, I believe a conservatoire will offer me chances to collaborate with ensembles and productions, and will expose me to a wider musical world. I will develop my musicianship: skills including performing, conducting, and rehearsing.
I have extensive practical musical experience. In addition to composition, I play horn and keyboard, and sing. I have played with [semi-pro orchestra] and [a national youth orchestra] and took part in the world premiere of [piece] by [famous american composer]. I have also played for school productions of [musical] and [musical], and have a good understanding of jazz performance. I have participated in conducting workshops with [conductor] and [conductor], have organised school concerts, and stage managed musical theatre.
As a result, I have discovered the value of collaboration. I have learnt to pay close attention to the needs of the team and the production. I see the importance of meticulous organisation and preparation, of being able to explain each of my musical decisions, working proactively, and writing quickly when needed.
I have gained other valuable skills for academic and professional life. I was the winner of the UK Supreme Court’s student writing competition, with an essay about the disproportionate use of secret evidence in court. I was a member of the Scottish Youth Parliament, and argued for [----] in front of a Scottish Parliament committee. I have an analytical mind, and an ability to find the root of a problem quickly.
I will involve myself in the life of a conservatoire with enthusiasm and curiosity.
Contemporary composers to listen to!
Some personal (mainly 21st century) recommendations!
Andrew Norman
Cassandra Miller
Catherine Lamb
Dai Fujikura
David Fennessy
David T Little
Dobrinka Tabakova
Du Yun
Eliane Radigue
Ellen Reid
Errollyn Wallen
Esa-Pekka Salonen
Eve Beglarian
Gavin Bryars
Jennifer Higdon
Jennifer Walshe
Jessie Montgomery
Joanna Bailie
John Luther Adams
Judd Greenstein
Julia Wolfe
Julian Anderson
Kate Soper
Laurence Crane
Laurie Anderson
Meredith Monk
Michael Finnissy
Missy Mazzoli
Neil Luck
Nico Muhly
Paul Newland
R Murray Schafer
Robin Haigh
Sarah Kirkland Snyder
Stuart Macrae
Tansy Davies
Thomas Ades
Toby Young
Unsuk Chin
These composers are also very very cool
Alexander Goehr
Berio
Birtwhistle
Boulez
Cage
Claude Vivier
David Lang
Einojuhani Rautavaara
Elliott Carter
Feldman
Ferneyhough
Georg Friederich Haas
George Benjamin
George Crumb
Glass
Grisey
Hans Abrahamsen
Harry Partch
Henry Cowell
Howard Skempton
Ives
James MacMillan
James Saunders
John Adams
Jonathan Harvey
Kaija Saariaho
Knussen
Kurtag
Lachenmann
LaMonte Young
Ligeti
Linda Catlin Smith
Louis Andriessen
Luigi Nono
Lutoslawski
Marc Sabat
Mark-Anthony Turnage
Maxwell Davies
Messiaen
Milhaud
Milton Babbitt
Nancarrow
Part
Pauline Oliveros
Peteris Vasks
Philip Cashian
Pierre Schaeffer
Radulescu
Reich
Scelsi
Simon Bainbridge
Sofia Gubaidulina
Stockhausen
Terry Riley
Tippett
Varese
Xenakis
Some extra scores to look at
Catherine Lamb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAN3yCtlkf0
Joanna Bailie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWrsqDSL_eU
Kate Soper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWHGx-LRL4
Tansy Davies - https://www.fabermusic.com/music/neon-4806/score
Also, anything on the ScoreFollower YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScoreFollower/videos

Hello, I am an applicant for the postgraduate degree in Electronic & Produced Music at Guildhall School of Music & Drama. Recently, I received an interview invitation from the school, and I would like to learn more about the interview process and seek some advice. Could you please provide me with some suggestions? I hope to handle the interviewer’s questions with more confidence during the interview. Thank you very much for your help.

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