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Failing deferral due to no fault of my own, what will the university do?

Hey!

To make a long story short, I've spent almost the entirety of this academic year being a carer alongside university for both of my parents who suffered greatly from covid and are still to this day insanely unwell. I'm in my first year, and after failing the initial coursework in May, I was given a deferral after sending off a PEC. Since then, my course leaders and the university in general has shown absolutely 0 compassion towards the external commitments in my life and tl;dr shortened what should have been a month long resit period, which would have been manageable, to just 8 days, meaning I have a super difficult choice.

Either I give up on my parents for these last 8 days and see if I can get someone else to care for them, or I give up on my dreams of graduating university because a few bad apples in higher positions within the university refused to give me a fair shot at completing my deferral.

With the former being my current option, what would the university do if I failed my deferral this year, especially considering the whole pandemic has led to mass confusion and difficulties among students? Do I still get another shot in the form of a referral with the fact that the deferral is technically a second first shot at it?
Tagging in @PhoenixFortune who is good with procedural matters.

NB. When you say ‘deferral’, do you mean a deadline extension?

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by Admit-One
Tagging in @PhoenixFortune who is good with procedural matters.

NB. When you say ‘deferral’, do you mean a deadline extension?

By deferral I mean I failed during the initial testing period and this is technically the resit, but because I put in a claim for external commitments they gave me a deferral which they say is a second chance at a first submission

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by frozenmarmalade
Hey!

To make a long story short, I've spent almost the entirety of this academic year being a carer alongside university for both of my parents who suffered greatly from covid and are still to this day insanely unwell. I'm in my first year, and after failing the initial coursework in May, I was given a deferral after sending off a PEC. Since then, my course leaders and the university in general has shown absolutely 0 compassion towards the external commitments in my life and tl;dr shortened what should have been a month long resit period, which would have been manageable, to just 8 days, meaning I have a super difficult choice.

Either I give up on my parents for these last 8 days and see if I can get someone else to care for them, or I give up on my dreams of graduating university because a few bad apples in higher positions within the university refused to give me a fair shot at completing my deferral.

With the former being my current option, what would the university do if I failed my deferral this year, especially considering the whole pandemic has led to mass confusion and difficulties among students? Do I still get another shot in the form of a referral with the fact that the deferral is technically a second first shot at it?

I'm sorry to hear of your personal difficulties - that must be very worrying for you.

Has the uni given any rationale for shortening your resit period so drastically? I presume this applies to all students, and not just you.

A deferral due to extenuating circumstances is usually a non-capped resit - essentially a second 'first attempt'. Were you to fail the deferred examination, you'd usually be offered a referral in that exam, subject to any minimum mark requirements (often it's >30 at the first attempt). However, the referral would probably be a capped pass at 40, which isn't really what you want. Additionally, you may find that the next assessment opportunity isn't until the following academic year, meaning that if a failed deferred assessment had to be passed in order to progress to the third year, and that assessment opportunity wasn't available until next academic year, then you'd have to wait a year to take it. I don't know what the structure of your course is, so I can't say this for definite.

I'd definitely find out first why the deferral period has been so shortened.

EDIT: there is also the concept of 'compensated passes' - this is where a narrow failure (35-39) can be accepted as a 'pass' by the exam board. If it's only one paper/module, and your university allows this in both your programme and the final year, it might be a Get Out Of Jail Free card.

The pandemic has softened criteria and usually made allowances for people in your position to progress to their degree. I'd be surprised if something couldn't be sorted out here :smile:

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Thanks for the tag @Admit-One :smile:

I echo the advice of Reality Check - knowing why they shortened your resit period is a good start to understanding what went wrong procedurally here.

Have you discussed your situation with your personal tutor and/or anyone from your student union?

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I was never really given anything more than a vague reasoning, being that the university was in a busy period and overwhelmed with oustanding tasks due to the pandemic so was unable to cater for the requirements of every course. I was initially told that we would get the brief for the resits in early august, late july, but what I believe happened is they wanted to see if they could just pass us anyway to save us the hassle especially considering the current ongoing pandemic situation, something that was shut down quite recently. With that in mind I assume they realised that because they could no longer go ahead with the initial plan, they had just fit us in with the remaining time of what the resit period should have been.

I have spoken to my personal tutor but he didn't seem like he had any control over what happened and just had to go with what he was being instructed by the course leaders
(edited 4 years ago)
Original post
by frozenmarmalade
By deferral I mean I failed during the initial testing period and this is technically the resit, but because I put in a claim for external commitments they gave me a deferral which they say is a second chance at a first submission

Thanks for clarifying. I come from an Admissions background so the term threw me, but that’s my ignorance and certainly not your fault.

Reality Check is also pretty wise with such matters, your question is a bit out of my wheelhouse, but I can certainly vouch for their guidance.

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by Admit-One
Thanks for clarifying. I come from an Admissions background so the term threw me, but that’s my ignorance and certainly not your fault.

Reality Check is also pretty wise with such matters, your question is a bit out of my wheelhouse, but I can certainly vouch for their guidance.

That's kind of you :smile:
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by frozenmarmalade
I was never really given anything more than a vague reasoning, being that the university was in a busy period and overwhelmed with oustanding tasks due to the pandemic so was unable to cater for the requirements of every course. I was initially told that we would get the brief for the resits in early august, late july, but what I believe happened is they wanted to see if they could just pass us anyway to save us the hassle especially considering the current ongoing pandemic situation, something that was shut down quite recently. With that in mind I assume they realised that because they could no longer go ahead with the initial plan, they had just fit us in with the remaining time of what the resit period should have been.

I have spoken to my personal tutor but he didn't seem like he had any control over what happened and just had to go with what he was being instructed by the course leaders

Just a tip: if you use the 'reply' orange button to a post, the person to whom you are replying will be notified that you've posted, so they can come back to the thread. :smile:

Tricky. I suspect that, practically speaking, you're not going to get to the bottom of why this deferral period was shortened, any more than what you've already quoted (which sounds fairly believable, and I know the def/ref timetable at our university was changed several times for various covid-related reasons). Again, being practical, where are you with these examinations? How much work have you done, and how confident are you in them? And how many exams/modules have you been deferred in? If you think you'd pass them, then the easiest thing might be to just take them and get it over and done with. Alternatively, if you think you have ECs which cover the period leading up to and including your deferred examinations, you could submit another request to defer them (subject to your programme regulations allowing this, which I don't have). However, this might land you in the same position as what I was talking about previously with having to do a referral on the deferral: you'd need to make sure the next assessment opportunity for any further deferral was such that it allowed progression into the next year.

I think you really must speak to your personal tutor or programme leader about this. Much of your decision about what to do best rests on the specifics of your course regarding ECs, further deferrals and referrals - and without knowing the intricacies, it's difficult to advise properly. @PhoenixFortune - any other ideas for this student? Thanks :smile:

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by frozenmarmalade
I was never really given anything more than a vague reasoning, being that the university was in a busy period and overwhelmed with oustanding tasks due to the pandemic so was unable to cater for the requirements of every course. I was initially told that we would get the brief for the resits in early august, late july, but what I believe happened is they wanted to see if they could just pass us anyway to save us the hassle especially considering the current ongoing pandemic situation, something that was shut down quite recently. With that in mind I assume they realised that because they could no longer go ahead with the initial plan, they had just fit us in with the remaining time of what the resit period should have been.

I have spoken to my personal tutor but he didn't seem like he had any control over what happened and just had to go with what he was being instructed by the course leaders

As Reality Check said, is it possible for you to actually go ahead with the resits whilst also looking after your parents? If not, you'll have to look into the process of deferring the assessments, but that might mean completing them during the next resit period which wouldn't until the next academic year. So you may end up waiting a year to progress, unless they accept the assessments as condoned passes (which is something only your university can tell you) - but that depends on how many assessments we're talking about as well.

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