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I know it's Ivy League but is it one of the better Ivies? I don't just mean Wharton Business School but the university as a whole.

Is it recognized worldwide as a reputable prestigious university?
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It's an Ivy. It's prestigious.
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But is it recognized worldwide as a prestigious school is where I am getting at? Is it seen as a Harvard, Cambridge, Yale, Oxford type school?
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Bump.

Is Penn just as prestigious or reputable as Oxford and Cambridge?
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(Original post by TimeDivided09)
Bump.

Is Penn just as prestigious or reputable as Oxford and Cambridge?
In which part of the world, and in what courses? I can tell you right now that many, many Americans have not heard of Cambridge, and even if they had do not see it as being on the same level as Oxford. Thus it can be said that Cam's reputation in this part of the world is a lot less than Oxford's. So, the reputation of a university varies greatly depending on which part of the world we're discussing here.

Penn is an excellent university and an Ivy League which is highly selective and attracts lots of applications every year. That much we can tell you. Whether an employer in rural Congo will think it is on the same level as HYPS, I think it is highly unlikely that any of us on TSR can say for sure.
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True. I've heard Penn is quite popular in South and East Asia though. I was wondering if the same was true in Europe, Latin America and the Middle East.
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HYPS
whoa.

i am so bringing that acronym up to people tomorrow.

everyone's stressing over their early decision stanford apps. im just IM DOOONEEE MUHAHAAHAH NOW YOU GET TO SUFFER!

Well at least in the US, a UPenn diploma is like gold. All Ivy diplomas basically are, plus a few non ivies. But as for international prestige, i'm not so sure.

My dad keeps going on about me going to england (he doesn't like the idea) simply because he doesn't think my degree will be recognized. :confused:

He's always like "Well yeah, you get a bachelor's, but are employers over here aren't going to know what the University of Leeds is."

and then i reply "I'm not even applying to leeds. :confused: plus you know what leeds is....wait...how do you know what leeds is?
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He does have a point. But I am sure Penn has some international recognition with top employers.

I am just trying to make sure by asking in a board filled with international students, preferably from the UK and the EU.
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(Original post by TimeDivided09)
I know it's Ivy League but is it one of the better Ivies? I don't just mean Wharton Business School but the university as a whole.

Is it recognized worldwide as a reputable prestigious university?
Of course, Wharton Business School is great.
The rest of Penn is pretty average.
It simply does not rank along with HYPSM.
It is one of the lesser Ivies, along with Brown, Cornell and Columbia.

In fact, the better liberal arts colleges like Amherst, Oberlin and Harvey Mudd are far better.
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It is one of the lesser Ivies, along with Brown, Cornell and Columbia.
Penn is a middle Ivy along with Columbia. Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth are lower Ivies.

At least, that is what I've heard.
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Penn is a middle Ivy along with Columbia. Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth are lower Ivies.

At least, that is what I've heard.
A lot of non-Ivies like Stanford and MIT are far better than Penn.
It is sort of our KCL.
ie: Not bad, but you can do a lot better.
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How can you even compare Upenn with KCL? I'll agree with TimeDivided09, Upenn is a great uni I can hardly think of better ones. If you like the place, the course and other personal elements, you shouldn't hesitate.

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How can you even compare Upenn with KCL?
I just did.:rolleyes:
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No, not KCL. Penn is more of an Imperial or at least a UCL. Penn is an Ivy powerhouse with a reputable business school. It's only fourth behinf HYP and probably tied with Columbia, if not outright #4.
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(Original post by TimeDivided09)
No, not KCL. Penn is more of an Imperial or at least a UCL. Penn is an Ivy powerhouse with a reputable business school. It's only fourth behinf HYP and probably tied with Columbia, if not outright #4.
MIT and Stanford are better than Penn.
So it would be 6th behind HYPSM.
Similarly, KCL is 6th behind Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial and UCL.
ie: The KCL analogy is very accurate.

Penn is good, but once you exclude Wharton, Penn is where you go if you dont get into the better places.
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UPenn is surely quite prestigious in the US or anywhere in the world. But sadly, it is not yet at HYPSM+Oxbridge level. It is in a tier just below them, however.
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US News Ranking:

1 - Harvard
2 - Princeton
3 - Yale
4 = MIT
4 = Stanford
6 = Caltech
6 = Penn
8 = Columbia
8 = Duke
8 = University of Chicago
11 - Dartmouth
12 = Northwestern
12 = Washington University in St Louis
14 - Cornell
15 - Johns Hopkins
16 - Brown
17 - Rice
18 = Emory
18 = Notre Dame
18 = Vanderbilt


Times World University Rankings:

1 - Harvard
2 - Yale

3 - Cambridge
4 - Oxford
5 - Caltech
6 - Imperial
7 - UCL
8 - University of Chicago
9 - MIT
10 - Columbia
11 - Penn
12 - Princeton
13 = Duke
13 = Johns Hopkins
15 - Cornell
16 - Australian Nat'l University
17 - Stanford
18 - Michigan
19 - University of Tokyo
20 - McGill
21 - Carnegie Mellon
22 - KCL
23 - Edinburgh
24 - ETH Zurich
25 - Kyoto University
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Good rankings. Penn is on the rise as an institution. I have heard that is really popular in Asia, beating out some schools like Princeton for top students.
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(Original post by flugestuge)
MIT and Stanford are better than Penn.
So it would be 6th behind HYPSM.
Similarly, KCL is 6th behind Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial and UCL.
ie: The KCL analogy is very accurate.

Penn is good, but once you exclude Wharton, Penn is where you go if you dont get into the better places.
But maybe, there are a lot more excellent US unis than there are uk ones
so, like everybody else says, it's an excellent university :yep:
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i think the world ranking that was referred to is uk-bias.
if i remember correctly it was a the times published leaderboard.

To be honest, the world ranking should only have Oxbridge for UK universities, plus possibly Imperial in the top 10
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