You should realise that the Ivy league is not a group of the top academic US unis. It was originally set up for sports.

MIT, Stanford, Caltech are not in the ivy league, but are considered to be amongst the best unis in the world.

I would say only Oxbridge compare with Harvard/yale/princeton/MIT/stanford in terms of reputation and academics. Perhaps specialised colleges are also equally good for their subject. E.g. LSE for economics, Imperial for engineering etc.

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I agree that Oxford is equivalent to the top uni's in the US. In addition, Cambridge is also equivalent to the top uni's in the US.

I think Manchester, Loughborough, Edinburgh, and Uni of London colleges are kind of equivalent to top US universities.

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TheWolf

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trev

I agree that Oxford is equivalent to the top uni's in the US. In addition, Cambridge is also equivalent to the top uni's in the US.

I think Manchester, Loughborough, Edinburgh, and Uni of London colleges are kind of equivalent to top US universities.

I doubt Manchester/Loughborough/Edinburgh are equivalent to top US universities, in terms of anything.

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an Siarach

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trev

I agree that Oxford is equivalent to the top uni's in the US. In addition, Cambridge is also equivalent to the top uni's in the US.

I think Manchester, Loughborough, Edinburgh, and Uni of London colleges are kind of equivalent to top US universities.

Loughborough!?!?!?! The G5 certainly and possibly some of the other ancients (i include the 19th century founded unis in that.)

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an Siarach

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TheWolf

I doubt Manchester/Loughborough/Edinburgh are equivalent to top US universities, in terms of anything.

Manchester and Edinburgh possibly - bear in mind that the ivy league isnt composed of the same level of institution; theres a considerable difference between Harvard and Dartmouth.

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Muse

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the ivy league is about as subjective as the 'russel group'.

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username5154

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Yeah, some of the G5 and the universitias 21 group of uni's can be considered as equivalent to top uni's in the US.

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amo1

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i think oxbridge, warwick, imperial, lse, as a second tier ucl, notts, n durham

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username5154

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Universities that are in the top 10 or 20 in the UK uni's league table may possibly be the equivalent to the good/best uni's in the US.

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an Siarach

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amo1

i think oxbridge, warwick, imperial, lse, as a second tier ucl, notts, n durham

Warwick ahead of UCL? I think not. High times/guardian rankings matter very little when comparing universities in the international context. The best (but inevitably flawed) international rankings are the THES ones of a month or so back.

Top UK Unis according to international prominence in various fields:

1)Oxford
2)Cambridge
3)LSE
4)Imperial
5)UCL
6)Manchester
7)SOAS
8)Edinburgh

all make it into the world top 50.

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an Siarach

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UK ranking based on placing within world ranking on left, international ranking on right.

1)Oxford - 5
2)Cambridge - 6
3)LSE - 11
4)Imperial - 14
5)UCL - 34
6)Manchester -43
7)SOAS - 44
8)Edinburgh - 48

9)Sussex - 58
10)St.Andrews - 70
11)Warwick - 80
12)Bristol - 91
13) KCL - 96
14)QML - 100

15)Bath - 103
16) Glasgow - 112
17)Birmingham - 126
18)Durham - 128
19)Leeds - 133
20)York - 137
21)Sheffield - 150

22)Liverpool - 151
23)Dundee - 168
24)Notts - 170
25)Newcastle - 178
26)Lancaster - 181
27)Queens - 185
28)Leicester - 189
29)Soton - 193
30)Aberdeen - 194

The fact the G5 retain their monopoly on the top spots internationally as they usually do domestically is no surprise but there are interesting placings further down.

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KingsComp

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In the UK we have the Russell Group that is similar to the US IVY league. This is basically the top 19 leading research-led British universities. It consists of the following universities (in no specific order):

Imperial College London
King's College London
London School of Economics
University College London
University of Birmingham
University of Bristol
University of Cambridge
Cardiff University
University of Edinburgh
University of Glasgow
University of Leeds
University of Liverpool
University of Manchester
University of Newcastle upon Tyne
University of Nottingham
University of Oxford
University of Sheffield
University of Southampton
University of Warwick

For more information refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Group_of_Universities

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ponjavic

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you guys really make me wanna get into Imperial :|

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In the UK we have the Russell Group that is similar to the US IVY league. This is basically the top 19 leading research-led British universities.

But most of them don't have the same international reputation/recognition as the ivy league.

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hallucination

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I only just noticed that Sussex do really well in the rankings.... :smile:

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ChemistBoy

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razzakakbar

In the UK we have the Russell Group that is similar to the US IVY league. This is basically the top 19 leading research-led British universities.

Er, no, it is 19 of the leading research-led universities in the UK, the Universities of Durham and St Andrews for example would be justifiably miffed at not being included in the top 19 research led universities.

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ChemistBoy

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But most of them don't have the same international reputation/recognition as the ivy league.

So you would say that Dartmouth College and the University of Pennsylvania have better international reputations that say Imperial college, LSE, Edinburgh?