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Hi, I’m in my second year of university studying Ancient History and Archaeology and have decided that teaching history at secondary is something that I would like to do. I would be applying for the History PGCE for 2023 but would like to know what the process is like? What sort of experience will I need? Thank you!
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Hi, I’m in my second year of university studying Ancient History and Archaeology and have decided that teaching history at secondary is something that I would like to do. I would be applying for the History PGCE for 2023 but would like to know what the process is like? What sort of experience will I need? Thank you!
The basic application process is:
1) Send off your application online. You can apply to up to 3 training providers. Applications open in October and have no official 'close' date, but it'd be a good idea to get it sorted by ~Easter time so that you're not arranging everything last minute.
2) Attend any interviews you are invited to. These may include: a typical interview, teaching a short lesson, a subject knowledge review, a maths/english test, etc.
3) Once you have heard back from all of the places you applied, confirm which you will be accepting. If you get 3 rejections, you can send a new application to a new provider if you wish.

In terms of experience, it would be a very good idea to get some experience in a secondary history classroom. The best time to do it is probably in the summer at the end of this academic year - as the university year usually finishes before the school year, so you won't be busy with lectures/exams - and also that way you will have some experience to refer to when writing your application. It is worth speaking to your university's careers service - I got my experience this way, as they had links with local schools who were happy to take people in for work experience.

My understanding is that secondary history is one of the more popular subjects to train in, so you may find it more competitive, particularly when looking for your first job after training. That's not to say you shouldn't apply, just something to keep in mind.
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Hi, I’m in my second year of university studying Ancient History and Archaeology and have decided that teaching history at secondary is something that I would like to do. I would be applying for the History PGCE for 2023 but would like to know what the process is like? What sort of experience will I need? Thank you!
Hello neganslucille

It's fantastic to hear that you are aspiring to become a secondary History teacher. At the moment, getting any kind of relevant experience is useful. This can be working with young people in any form (tutoring, debate mate, youth organisations (scouting/Duke of Edinburgh/cadets etc) or observing teachers in a classroom. Anything that would help you to get two suitable references would be useful too!

You need to consider why you are motivated to become a teacher and what skills, attributes and qualities you will bring to the classroom. If you are prepared with this knowledge, then writing the two part personal statement of the DfE apply form will be simple.

However, you'll be delighted to know that you don't need to do any of this process alone. There are fully qualified and experienced teachers available to you through Get into Teaching. We will take you step-by-step through the considering teaching stage, and if it is something that you do want to go ahead and make an application for a teacher training course, then we'll help make it a swift and easy process, so that you can use your time in your third year focusing on getting the best degree you can.

Register for a FREE adviser here.

Wishing you all the best for your degree (are you back on campus?) and hopefully an outstanding teaching career to come.

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Hello neganslucille

It's fantastic to hear that you are aspiring to become a secondary History teacher. At the moment, getting any kind of relevant experience is useful. This can be working with young people in any form (tutoring, debate mate, youth organisations (scouting/Duke of Edinburgh/cadets etc) or observing teachers in a classroom. Anything that would help you to get two suitable references would be useful too!

You need to consider why you are motivated to become a teacher and what skills, attributes and qualities you will bring to the classroom. If you are prepared with this knowledge, then writing the two part personal statement of the DfE apply form will be simple.

However, you'll be delighted to know that you don't need to do any of this process alone. There are fully qualified and experienced teachers available to you through Get into Teaching. We will take you step-by-step through the considering teaching stage, and if it is something that you do want to go ahead and make an application for a teacher training course, then we'll help make it a swift and easy process, so that you can use your time in your third year focusing on getting the best degree you can.

Register for a FREE adviser here.

Wishing you all the best for your degree (are you back on campus?) and hopefully an outstanding teaching career to come.

Jane
Thank you for your reply. I am in contact with one of your advisors now I am fully back on campus except for one module which is still online.
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The basic application process is:
1) Send off your application online. You can apply to up to 3 training providers. Applications open in October and have no official 'close' date, but it'd be a good idea to get it sorted by ~Easter time so that you're not arranging everything last minute.
2) Attend any interviews you are invited to. These may include: a typical interview, teaching a short lesson, a subject knowledge review, a maths/english test, etc.
3) Once you have heard back from all of the places you applied, confirm which you will be accepting. If you get 3 rejections, you can send a new application to a new provider if you wish.

In terms of experience, it would be a very good idea to get some experience in a secondary history classroom. The best time to do it is probably in the summer at the end of this academic year - as the university year usually finishes before the school year, so you won't be busy with lectures/exams - and also that way you will have some experience to refer to when writing your application. It is worth speaking to your university's careers service - I got my experience this way, as they had links with local schools who were happy to take people in for work experience.

My understanding is that secondary history is one of the more popular subjects to train in, so you may find it more competitive, particularly when looking for your first job after training. That's not to say you shouldn't apply, just something to keep in mind.
Thank you for you reply, it was very helpful. I have spoken to my university's career service who do offer experience in schools, so I should get some experience through that. They also mentioned that they do a module next year which focuses on history in education, whereby you go and observe history teachers but also get a chance to plan and deliver a lesson. It has been mentioned that history is a popular subject, but there's nothing else that I would like to teach, except English, which is equally as popular.
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there's nothing else that I would like to teach, except English, which is equally as popular.
English is nowhere near as oversubscribed as History. It’s also a core subject, so departments are bigger and specialists are more in demand. Much easier to secure an English job than a History one.
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English is nowhere near as oversubscribed as History. It’s also a core subject, so departments are bigger and specialists are more in demand. Much easier to secure an English job than a History one.
Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks for letting me know. I’m fairly sure I want to teach History anyway but I will look into English. I did enjoy it at GCSE but not so much at A-Level. I think I would have to complete some SKE though as my degree is more history based.
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Oh really? I didn’t know that, thanks for letting me know. I’m fairly sure I want to teach History anyway but I will look into English. I did enjoy it at GCSE but not so much at A-Level. I think I would have to complete some SKE though as my degree is more history based.
You have to bear in mind that English is a core subject with 2 GCSEs, whilst history is an optional subject with one GCSE. Therefore, most schools need a lot more English teachers than history teachers, and as such, there's a lot more English jobs available.

Last year, a LOT of history trainees struggled to secure employment, so it is worth looking at other options as well. If you decide history is definitely what you want to teach, then great, but do be aware the job market is not the easiest.
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You have to bear in mind that English is a core subject with 2 GCSEs, whilst history is an optional subject with one GCSE. Therefore, most schools need a lot more English teachers than history teachers, and as such, there's a lot more English jobs available.

Last year, a LOT of history trainees struggled to secure employment, so it is worth looking at other options as well. If you decide history is definitely what you want to teach, then great, but do be aware the job market is not the easiest.
It’s definitely something to consider. Only thing is it would be very difficult applying to an English PGCE with a History degree. I’ve secured two days experience with a secondary school next month, so I’ll have a chance to look at both departments.
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It’s definitely something to consider. Only thing is it would be very difficult applying to an English PGCE with a History degree. I’ve secured two days experience with a secondary school next month, so I’ll have a chance to look at both departments.
It wouldn't be "very difficult" if you have English at A-level, you might not get your first choice place, but you would find something.

But you need to pick a subject you are passionate about teaching, you just need to be prepared that for history, it may be more difficult to secure a permanent job.
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It wouldn't be "very difficult" if you have English at A-level, you might not get your first choice place, but you would find something.

But you need to pick a subject you are passionate about teaching, you just need to be prepared that for history, it may be more difficult to secure a permanent job.
Excuse my ignorance, clearly still got a lot to learn about the PGCE/Education sector! I am very passionate about history so I imagine I’ll focus on that
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Excuse my ignorance, clearly still got a lot to learn about the PGCE/Education sector! I am very passionate about history so I imagine I’ll focus on that
If history is what you want to do, then I would go for that. I think it's just important to be aware a lot of history ECTs have struggled to find jobs this year.
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