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Cambridge medicine workload?

I posted a similar post in the medicine thread, but as Cambridge is a bit unique I want to ask specifically Cambridge students.
Obviously it's a lot of work, that's expected abut I'm just wondering exactly what the workload looks like studying medicine. I'm sure it varies massively from year to year and person to person. But on the whole what would you say? I find it hard to gauge just how much work there is at Cambridge/how manageable it is. I think some people try to scaremonger and tell you you'll be drowning with 3000 essays every week, but I also think some people can maybe play it down so you're not put off? How much work is it compared to other medical schools? Do you ever wish you'd gone elsewhere/thought you'd have had a better time elsewhere?

Also what is with clinical years? I gather that it is literally ike a full time job, and you spend little time actually in uni. Would you say clinical years are quite 'relaxed' relative to pre-clinical. As in are there less exams, less regular work to complete and learn? Or more work? Do you even feel like a student?

Thanks so much

Reply 1

I graduated from Cambridge a couple of years ago, but I'll have a go at answering this. As you say, it's variable. The exact number of essays per week varies from supervisor to supervisor, and therefore varies between colleges. However, it's certainly not unusual for each of the main subjects to be setting 1 essay per week; therefore, that will usually be 1 essay each in anatomy, physiology and biochemistry per week in the first year, and 1 essay each in pharmacology, pathology and neuro/behaviour in the second year. The second year will probably have a few endo/reproduction essays thrown in too, but they may not be every week, depending on the supervisor. These essays aren't usually huge though, a couple of thousand words is usually more than sufficient, so you get used to bashing them out in a few hours. There are a couple of other minor subjects in first year, medical sociology and statistics, but they are pretty trivial and many colleges will only have a couple of supervisions for them. In terms of contact hours, first and second year will see you occupied with either lectures or labs for most working hours between 9-5, but some days there will be a few hour or two gaps here and there.

In terms of exams, of course they aren't easy, but they are manageable and the majority pass second MB well enough. The general consensus is that the 2nd year is probably the hardest, followed by 1st year and 5th year (but 5th year is now easier than it was, probably). If you keep up with the work thorughout the year, and set aside a few weeks for revision, it's all perfectly doable though, as evidenced by the fact that most get through first time, and most of the rest get through the resit. I don't know how the exams compare to other medical schools as I didn't go to them, but I can't imagine it's easy anywhere really. I certainly never regretted choosing Cambridge, and most people manage to have a decent social life outside of their medical studies! The 8 week terms of undergrad are relatively intense, but 8 weeks is a pretty short time, and you therefore end up getting pretty much half the year off for the first couple of years. A bit of work in the holidays will be necessary, but not too much in my experience.

Clinical school is different again; your holidays are much shorter, and you basically turn up to clinical placements on the wards every weekday. Some of these placements will be in Addenbrooke's Hospital, but you will be sent around the region to other places like Bedford, West Suffolk, Ipswich, Hinchingbrooke, etc.. It's a less intense pace, and many of the exams are more practically focussed OSCEs, with some MCQ and SAQ papers. There aren't essays like in undergrad, though clinical pathology in 5th year formerly was an essay paper. Pathology is often cited as the hardest clinical school exam, but it's not too bad now; it's essentially an SAQ paper that goes step by step through clinical cases, so it's well within the scope of what you will be experiencing day to day on the wards, and with a bit of extra book work it's fine.

All in all, I wouldn't worry about the workload being that much worse than anywhere else for medicine. Yes you have to do essays, but they can be helpful in developing skills in writing that will be useful when writing discussions for publication, and they generally aren't too bad. There's a lot to learn wherever you study medicine, though!

Reply 2

Original post by paracrinoid
I graduated from Cambridge a couple of years ago, but I'll have a go at answering this. As you say, it's variable. The exact number of essays per week varies from supervisor to supervisor, and therefore varies between colleges. However, it's certainly not unusual for each of the main subjects to be setting 1 essay per week; therefore, that will usually be 1 essay each in anatomy, physiology and biochemistry per week in the first year, and 1 essay each in pharmacology, pathology and neuro/behaviour in the second year. The second year will probably have a few endo/reproduction essays thrown in too, but they may not be every week, depending on the supervisor. These essays aren't usually huge though, a couple of thousand words is usually more than sufficient, so you get used to bashing them out in a few hours. There are a couple of other minor subjects in first year, medical sociology and statistics, but they are pretty trivial and many colleges will only have a couple of supervisions for them. In terms of contact hours, first and second year will see you occupied with either lectures or labs for most working hours between 9-5, but some days there will be a few hour or two gaps here and there.

In terms of exams, of course they aren't easy, but they are manageable and the majority pass second MB well enough. The general consensus is that the 2nd year is probably the hardest, followed by 1st year and 5th year (but 5th year is now easier than it was, probably). If you keep up with the work thorughout the year, and set aside a few weeks for revision, it's all perfectly doable though, as evidenced by the fact that most get through first time, and most of the rest get through the resit. I don't know how the exams compare to other medical schools as I didn't go to them, but I can't imagine it's easy anywhere really. I certainly never regretted choosing Cambridge, and most people manage to have a decent social life outside of their medical studies! The 8 week terms of undergrad are relatively intense, but 8 weeks is a pretty short time, and you therefore end up getting pretty much half the year off for the first couple of years. A bit of work in the holidays will be necessary, but not too much in my experience.

Clinical school is different again; your holidays are much shorter, and you basically turn up to clinical placements on the wards every weekday. Some of these placements will be in Addenbrooke's Hospital, but you will be sent around the region to other places like Bedford, West Suffolk, Ipswich, Hinchingbrooke, etc.. It's a less intense pace, and many of the exams are more practically focussed OSCEs, with some MCQ and SAQ papers. There aren't essays like in undergrad, though clinical pathology in 5th year formerly was an essay paper. Pathology is often cited as the hardest clinical school exam, but it's not too bad now; it's essentially an SAQ paper that goes step by step through clinical cases, so it's well within the scope of what you will be experiencing day to day on the wards, and with a bit of extra book work it's fine.

All in all, I wouldn't worry about the workload being that much worse than anywhere else for medicine. Yes you have to do essays, but they can be helpful in developing skills in writing that will be useful when writing discussions for publication, and they generally aren't too bad. There's a lot to learn wherever you study medicine, though!

Hey, not OP but I just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm thinking about applying and you just eased all my concerns. Enough time for fun/workload/imposter syndrome etc.

You seem to have had a perfectly good time. If you were choosing again, would you choose to go anywhere else do you think, or Cambridge again?

My last concern is that this would be my second BMAT choice which is a bit risky. But that's really on me to decide whether I want to take that risk haha.

Reply 3

Original post by pepsiu
Hey, not OP but I just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm thinking about applying and you just eased all my concerns. Enough time for fun/workload/imposter syndrome etc.

You seem to have had a perfectly good time. If you were choosing again, would you choose to go anywhere else do you think, or Cambridge again?

My last concern is that this would be my second BMAT choice which is a bit risky. But that's really on me to decide whether I want to take that risk haha.

I'd certainly reapply to Cambridge as first choice, no doubt! I had a great time, and managed to do all the extracurricular stuff I wanted to. I would say that pretty much all medical schools in the UK produce highly competent doctors though, so it's really not an issue if you end up going somewhere else. Similarly, going to Cambridge doesn't make any particular difference to your postgrad job applications in medicine either, unlike in other fields!

I'd say that if you're comfortable with the traditional preclinical/clinical split course structure, and wanting to intercalate, Cambridge is a great place to be. If you really get into research, you can even go on to intercalate a PhD as well...! That having been said, only a few people do that in each year, but it's a nice option to have if you decide you may want to go into academic medicine.

In terms of having 2/4 BMAT choices, I guess it's a bit of a risk. Then again, I think I had 3/4 BMAT choices, so I am in no place to lecture on that! I guess in part it depends on how your UCAT score is, but I'm sure the other threads on medical applications can advise better than I can on such matters.

Good luck!

Reply 4

Original post by paracrinoid
I graduated from Cambridge a couple of years ago, but I'll have a go at answering this. As you say, it's variable. The exact number of essays per week varies from supervisor to supervisor, and therefore varies between colleges. However, it's certainly not unusual for each of the main subjects to be setting 1 essay per week; therefore, that will usually be 1 essay each in anatomy, physiology and biochemistry per week in the first year, and 1 essay each in pharmacology, pathology and neuro/behaviour in the second year. The second year will probably have a few endo/reproduction essays thrown in too, but they may not be every week, depending on the supervisor. These essays aren't usually huge though, a couple of thousand words is usually more than sufficient, so you get used to bashing them out in a few hours. There are a couple of other minor subjects in first year, medical sociology and statistics, but they are pretty trivial and many colleges will only have a couple of supervisions for them. In terms of contact hours, first and second year will see you occupied with either lectures or labs for most working hours between 9-5, but some days there will be a few hour or two gaps here and there.
In terms of exams, of course they aren't easy, but they are manageable and the majority pass second MB well enough. The general consensus is that the 2nd year is probably the hardest, followed by 1st year and 5th year (but 5th year is now easier than it was, probably). If you keep up with the work thorughout the year, and set aside a few weeks for revision, it's all perfectly doable though, as evidenced by the fact that most get through first time, and most of the rest get through the resit. I don't know how the exams compare to other medical schools as I didn't go to them, but I can't imagine it's easy anywhere really. I certainly never regretted choosing Cambridge, and most people manage to have a decent social life outside of their medical studies! The 8 week terms of undergrad are relatively intense, but 8 weeks is a pretty short time, and you therefore end up getting pretty much half the year off for the first couple of years. A bit of work in the holidays will be necessary, but not too much in my experience.
Clinical school is different again; your holidays are much shorter, and you basically turn up to clinical placements on the wards every weekday. Some of these placements will be in Addenbrooke's Hospital, but you will be sent around the region to other places like Bedford, West Suffolk, Ipswich, Hinchingbrooke, etc.. It's a less intense pace, and many of the exams are more practically focussed OSCEs, with some MCQ and SAQ papers. There aren't essays like in undergrad, though clinical pathology in 5th year formerly was an essay paper. Pathology is often cited as the hardest clinical school exam, but it's not too bad now; it's essentially an SAQ paper that goes step by step through clinical cases, so it's well within the scope of what you will be experiencing day to day on the wards, and with a bit of extra book work it's fine.
All in all, I wouldn't worry about the workload being that much worse than anywhere else for medicine. Yes you have to do essays, but they can be helpful in developing skills in writing that will be useful when writing discussions for publication, and they generally aren't too bad. There's a lot to learn wherever you study medicine, though!

Hello! Thanks for your detailed answer, may I ask what are the word count set for the essays generally? And do you need to research loads, how long do you often need to spend on one essay?

Reply 5

Original post by Anonymous
Hello! Thanks for your detailed answer, may I ask what are the word count set for the essays generally? And do you need to research loads, how long do you often need to spend on one essay?
I will pick this up just in case the user you quoted from 2 years ago is no longer around

One thing about how Cambridge (and most universities) operate is that you are not told what to do precisely unless the supervisor is very particular or strict. You are unlikely to ever be told "this lab report must be 5000-6000 words". The implication and response from most of the staff would be "it should be as long and as high effort as you think it should be".

To give you a more pragmatic answer; less than 2 pages would probably be seen as very low effort and there is a good chance the supervisor would rather you simply asked for more time or possibly did not even bother. 3-5 pages or a bit over a thousand words is fairly typical length for someone doing a somewhat honest effort. More than 6-7 and you approach pointless/ rambling territory and its likely you'll be pulled up for the fact unless its very well researched. But you'd never write this much in an exam which are somewhat a guiding stone for what the essays should be.

How long this takes frankly depends quite a bit on the student. I think a lot of people learn how to do an essay in 2-3 hours with a level of research that is somewhat of a facade (by this, I mean if you had a lecture series on channel proteins and a 30 page handout and 2-3 books on the recommended reading list - summarising this information efficiently but in a well structured and kinda interesting way would be viewed as an ok essay. In later years there is a tacit implication that a good essay should go beyond that. But "everyone" learns a few tricks to make it look like they probably did more research than they actually did). Students who have a better memory have an advantage here though. There were people in my year who quite literally could sit through a few lectures, glance over the handout once, and it was in their brain. There were others who seemingly went through a herculean effort to just stay on top of the basic work. The typical student probably would maybe need to spend 20-40 minutes reading just before writing if they had been paying attention.


But essays are somewhat a means to an end. If you dont care about getting a 2:2 or a 3rd, you could hand in sub-2 hour 2 page essays during term time. It wont impress your supervisors or by extension your DoS, but you wont be failed for it. And then (since these essays are mainly about helping the student learn to do well in the exam which will contain essays) presumably such a student would underperform in the exam, or have a rougher time during revision when usually these essays are extremely helpful. There is no "punishment" for this other than the fact you will not do that well. The same is true of lab reports or any other pieces of extended low-contact time work that are done by students. You make your own way in this. You can spend 2 hours or you can spend 14. The brighter/ better students get to spend less time.

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