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hey guys just really wanna know what impact will it have if i go to RG uni. Will i get paid will i get my preferred job basically i want to know what impact will it have if i go RG uni vs non RG uni.
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hey guys just really wanna know what impact will it have if i go to RG uni. Will i get paid will i get my preferred job basically i want to know what impact will it have if i go RG uni vs non RG uni.
Unless it's Oxbridge/Imperial/LSE it probably has very little impact
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Unless it's Oxbridge/Imperial/LSE it probably has very little impact
what kind of impact.
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what kind of impact.
It depends on the degree and what area you want to work in afterwards.

If it's something like investment banking then the university will have an impact as employers may recruit from specific unis (Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Warwick).
If it's consulting than pretty much any degree from any uni will be fine and will have almost no impact on your opportunities and salary.



Bath for example is not an RG uni but still a good uni. Unless you are referring specifically to those unis mentioned above, going vs not going to an RG uni will not have much impact on you.
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It depends on the degree and what area you want to work in afterwards.

If it's something like investment banking then the university will have an impact as employers may recruit from specific unis (Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Warwick).
If it's consulting than pretty much any degree from any uni will be fine and will have almost no impact on your opportunities and salary.



Bath for example is not an RG uni but still a good uni. Unless you are referring specifically to those unis mentioned above, going vs not going to an RG uni will not have much impact on you.
Its such a coiecedence that i want to be investment banker. but i can't in GCSE grades arent that high. so i am thinking between economics or computer science degree. so which degree won't have an impact as i am likely to go into a non rusell grou uni so which computer science or economics based on which is a higher chance of a good salary/
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RG and other 'top' Unis will push you more and you'll probably study in more depth and breadth, and will experience more topics/subject areas - simply because those Uni have bigger departments and more research focussed staff.

For some subjects - Law and Economics in particular - it does matter, but for most subjects actually the majority of mainstream employers will not care unless you went somewhere really dire like London Met or Bolton.

For some other, more vocational, subjects, many of the 'newer' Universities are actually better and many Unis that you wouldnt rate much are actually often very good at one specialised subject - Coventry for Motorsport Engineering is the classic example.

For subjects like Medicine, nursing etc it doesnt matter where you go - all the degrees are accredited as equal, the NHS will not care where you trained - and neither will your patients.

Most Unis actually dont care where you did your first degree when you apply for a Masters etc - its actually about you, your ability, your personal statement and your references.

Honestly, 'which Uni' doesnt have the enormous impact that many school-leavers believe it does - and ultimately life is what you make it, not what badge is on your degree certificate.
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Jack diddly, imo, as far as your own personal development goes. Some Uni's excel in certain fields, others in others. You should pick a Uni for the course and what options it offers you that you would want to explore, rather than it being in some exclusive circle-jerking group.

I picked Edinburgh for the money and the variety available (both in expertise and also course spectrum) for my chosen degree program, not because (and I didn't even know it was) it is an RG.
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Its such a coiecedence that i want to be investment banker. but i can't in GCSE grades arent that high. so i am thinking between economics or computer science degree. so which degree won't have an impact as i am likely to go into a non rusell grou uni so which computer science or economics based on which is a higher chance of a good salary/
Firstly, are you sure you want to be an investment banker? Do you have good reasoning other than the salary?

Investment banking (IB) is incredibly competitive even at the very top unis which are target unis for IB. You can get into it from other unis but it will be very difficult.

There are plenty of other careers that may pay less but you may enjoy more. You'll probably work out what you want to do after you start at uni.



It seems like all your choices are based on salary, you should seriously reconsider what YOU enjoy. Do you like economics or computer science? Both are good degrees and can lead to good careers.
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I honestly like cs and economics. I want to have a degree but have one of the jobs that will pay me well.
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hey guys just really wanna know what impact will it have if i go to RG uni. Will i get paid will i get my preferred job basically i want to know what impact will it have if i go RG uni vs non RG uni.
Dont be fooled into believing Russell Group propaganda. Some of the RG universities are world leaders, Others are not. Places like Bath and St Andrews are every bit as good as most RG universities.

Look into why the RG was formed anfd that will tell you everything you need to know. It was set up to protect its universities as they feared losing research funding to newer universities and former polytechnics.

As far as Economics and Computer Science are concerned if you are looking at most RG or other leading universities you will need A level usually grade A Maths. Are you likely to have that. If not you will need to look elsewhere. The most important issue is you go to a university that is right for you whether it is RG or not
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so if you may please tell me what unis i can go with these grades

uni in london if possible

ok so here are my GCSE grades

language 4
literature 6
maths 8
biology 6
chemistry 6
physics 7
computer science 8
spanish 7
geography 7

economics a level prediction A
maths a level prediction B
computer science prediction B
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so if you may please tell me what unis i can go with these grades

uni in london if possible

ok so here are my GCSE grades

language 4
literature 6
maths 8
biology 6
chemistry 6
physics 7
computer science 8
spanish 7
geography 7

economics a level prediction A
maths a level prediction B
computer science prediction B
It is fairly difficult in London as the universities tenf to be high fliers like Imperial, LSE and UCL which will often require very high grades or universities that require much lower. Royal Holloway tends to ask around your predictions. It might be worth trying Queen Mary as a reach university. Brunel is another but again on the outskirts. Outside London you could check out placed like Reading, Kent, Surrey, East Anglia or Sussex. They tend to make offers in your range but you would need to check the English Language requirement. Further outside you would have a chance at all the Welsh universities like Cardiff, Swansea and Aberystwyth. Up north you could look into Liverpool and Lancaster as reach universities. Keele and Leicester might be options in the Midlands. You really need to check a load of universities against your expected grades.
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hey guys just really wanna know what impact will it have if i go to RG uni. Will i get paid will i get my preferred job basically i want to know what impact will it have if i go RG uni vs non RG uni.
RG unis have lost their status of late. There are lots of really good unis that are not RG - Lancaster, Loughborough and Bath to name a few. Pick a uni you want to go to and look at uni rankings like the Guardian Good Uni Guide and ensure you aim for a top 20 uni for your chosen subject. Forget about whether its a RG uni.
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List of Russell Group universities
There are currently 24 universities within the Russell Group:

University of Birmingham
University of Bristol
University of Cambridge
Cardiff University
Durham University
University of Edinburgh
University of Exeter
University of Glasgow
Imperial College London
King's College London
University of Leeds
University of Liverpool
London School of Economics & Political Science
University of Manchester
Newcastle University
University of Nottingham
University of Oxford
Queen Mary, University of London
Queen's University Belfast
University of Sheffield
University of Southampton
University College London
University of Warwick
University of York


The Russell Group isn’t the only university group out there – University Alliance is a group of 'business engaged' universities


Kylie Ng, Student Ambassador
MSc International Marketing Management
Coventry University
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hey guys just really wanna know what impact will it have if i go to RG uni. Will i get paid will i get my preferred job basically i want to know what impact will it have if i go RG uni vs non RG uni.
RG unis dont really carry much weight. Go for course and what opportunities and internships they can get you. The more experience / exposure you have with companies, the better chance of you getting employed.
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I honestly like cs and economics.
Look at 'Fin Tech' - https://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/under...gy-fintech-bsc
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Whilst it’s true that there are good universities that aren’t RG it’s probably not true that any university in RG are bad. They are still in the top rankings on most lists.
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Whilst it’s true that there are good universities that aren’t RG it’s probably not true that any university in RG are bad. They are still in the top rankings on most lists.
Quite a few have treated their students very poorly during the pandemic - the consequences of research focused universities that don’t prioritise students/teaching.

The more research funding from RC a university gets the more they use tuition fee income to subsidise research costs (research council funding is deliberately 20% below the full economic cost of the research with the university expected to fill that funding gap using other income sources - for most universities their only other source of income large enough is tuition fee income).
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Quite a few have treated their students very poorly during the pandemic - the consequences of research focused universities that don’t prioritise students/teaching.

The more research funding from RC a university gets the more they use tuition fee income to subsidise research costs (research council funding is deliberately 20% below the full economic cost of the research with the university expected to fill that funding gap using other income sources - for most universities their only other source of income large enough is tuition fee income).
Very true PQ. some RG not allowed the students back for almost 4 months from early Jan this year. Others were not bothered about segregating flats and let them mix and all catch covid, or put a fence up around to segregate them and to stop them from leaving the building making students feel imprisoned. Because of covid some unis this year have over subscribed leaving no accommodation for first years, having them to live in other cities.
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