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a couple days ago, when i asked him to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, he refused. i couldn't take the side effects from sertraline anymore even at a low dose so i went back to him, and openly told him that i stopped taking sertraline a couple days ago anyway. so basically he charged me twice which was probably on purpose

he agreed to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, but only if i also take something called olanzapine. he said it was a mood stabilising drug. it's not. i looked it up, it's an antipsychotic. wtf. i have no intention of taking it, obviously. why would he lie to me? is he just experimenting on me? according to google those two drugs shouldn't even be combined. should i report him? he talks behind my back with my boyfriend sometimes, is he even allowed to do that?
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Olanzapine is routinely used as a mood stabiliser and I would infer that’s why he wants to prescribe it to you.

For what you’ve said, it doesn’t sound like he was lying to you.
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If being a doctor was as easy as looking things up on Google why would anyone study medicine in the first place ?
You can't do your own thing and then complain when your doctor isn't listening
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Think of ‘antipsychotic’ as being a arbitrary classification. Those type of drugs where first marketed as an antipsychotic, but that doesn’t mean that they are only useful in psychosis.

As well I’ve taken both olanz and fluoxetine in combination and it wasn’t very good for me but, it’s not an unusual combo.
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a couple days ago, when i asked him to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, he refused. i couldn't take the side effects from sertraline anymore even at a low dose so i went back to him, and openly told him that i stopped taking sertraline a couple days ago anyway. so basically he charged me twice which was probably on purpose

he agreed to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, but only if i also take something called olanzapine. he said it was a mood stabilising drug. it's not. i looked it up, it's an antipsychotic. wtf. i have no intention of taking it, obviously. why would he lie to me? is he just experimenting on me? according to google those two drugs shouldn't even be combined. should i report him? he talks behind my back with my boyfriend sometimes, is he even allowed to do that?
It rebalances dopamine levels, which is the thing that makes ur mood better.. So he isnt doing anything wrong
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Olanzapine is routinely used as a mood stabiliser and I would infer that’s why he wants to prescribe it to you.

For what you’ve said, it doesn’t sound like he was lying to you.
i'm not so sure. it says 'atypical antipsychotic' when i google it
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If being a doctor was as easy as looking things up on Google why would anyone study medicine in the first place ?
You can't do your own thing and then complain when your doctor isn't listening
i don't know, so far all his attempts at 'helping' me just make things worse
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Think of ‘antipsychotic’ as being a arbitrary classification. Those type of drugs where first marketed as an antipsychotic, but that doesn’t mean that they are only useful in psychosis.

As well I’ve taken both olanz and fluoxetine in combination and it wasn’t very good for me but, it’s not an unusual combo.
right. if you don't mind me asking, was it prescribed to you as a mood stabilising drug then?
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i'm not so sure. it says 'atypical antipsychotic' when i google it


right. if you don't mind me asking, was it prescribed to you as a mood stabilising drug then?
I am no pharmacologist but I am fairly sure that they call all newer antipsychotic drugs atypical.

No I don’t mind and yes it was.
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It rebalances dopamine levels, which is the thing that makes ur mood better.. So he isnt doing anything wrong
why wouldnt fluoxetine be enough tho. : /
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I am no pharmacologist but I am fairly sure that they call all newer antipsychotic drugs atypical.

No I don’t mind and yes it was.
i see. thanks
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why wouldnt fluoxetine be enough tho. : /
didnt you say that you couldny handle the side-effects and therefore didnt take them?
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a couple days ago, when i asked him to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, he refused. i couldn't take the side effects from sertraline anymore even at a low dose so i went back to him, and openly told him that i stopped taking sertraline a couple days ago anyway. so basically he charged me twice which was probably on purpose

he agreed to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, but only if i also take something called olanzapine. he said it was a mood stabilising drug. it's not. i looked it up, it's an antipsychotic. wtf. i have no intention of taking it, obviously. why would he lie to me? is he just experimenting on me? according to google those two drugs shouldn't even be combined. should i report him? he talks behind my back with my boyfriend sometimes, is he even allowed to do that?
Maybe go to a different doctor, a fresh perspective and a chance to speak openly about your issues with your current doctor could help, maybe chat with your boyfriend about how you feel about them talking? There is patient privacy, so maybe check how that works with regards to your care
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didnt you say that you couldny handle the side-effects and therefore didnt take them?
i was talking about sertraline in my post.
or do you mean in the past? i was on fluoxetine a couple months ago. i want to give it another try
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Maybe go to a different doctor, a fresh perspective and a chance to speak openly about your issues with your current doctor could help, maybe chat with your boyfriend about how you feel about them talking? There is patient privacy, so maybe check how that works with regards to your care
i'm scared that they'll just misdiagnose me with random stuff tbh (happened before). the psychiatrist i'm seeing know doesn't really care much about labels which is what i like about him. he also prescribes me sleep meds/sedatives and i know not all doctors like to do that long term. but yeah he's been acting sketchy lately so idk if i can trust him. might consider seeing someone else tbh
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i was talking about sertraline in my post.
or do you mean in the past? i was on fluoxetine a couple months ago. i want to give it another try
Sorry I read the OP a little wrong :eek:..
Doctors know whats best so I would say just try both, if something doesnt feel right then book another appointment.. Bare in mind that these medicines can make you feel worse in the 1st few weeks
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Man...olanzapine, good luck with that.

It knocked me the **** out when I took it and also I put on 50lbs in a few weeks. Was crazy. I wouldn't take it again for all the tea in China and I love tea.
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Sorry I read the OP a little wrong :eek:..
Doctors know whats best so I would say just try both, if something doesnt feel right then book another appointment.. Bare in mind that these medicines can make you feel worse in the 1st few weeks
tbh i feel like everything he prescribes me always makes me feel worse in the end
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Man...olanzapine, good luck with that.

It knocked me the **** out when I took it and also I put on 50lbs in a few weeks. Was crazy. I wouldn't take it again for all the tea in China and I love tea.
really? wow. i mean, i'm very obsessive about my weight and if i gained a single pound id go ****ing mad. so that settles it. he didnt even warn me. : //// i just feel his ****ing test rabbit, nobody tells me anyhthign
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tbh i feel like everything he prescribes me always makes me feel worse in the end

really? wow. i mean, i'm very obsessive about my weight and if i gained a single pound id go ****ing mad. so that settles it. he didnt even warn me. : //// i just feel his ****ing test rabbit, nobody tells me anyhthign
Antipsychotics are notorious for causing weight gain. I went from 140lbs to 230lbs because of antipsychotics. It was a nightmare.

It also made me sleep like 16hours a day and didn't even do its job.
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wow. i mean, i'm very obsessive about my weight and if i gained a single pound id go ****ing mad. so that settles it. he didnt even warn me. : //// i just feel his ****ing test rabbit, nobody tells me anyhthign
Not everyone has the same / any side effects from a medication. Many medications have other uses than the primary one that you'll find googling.

IMO, you should simply report the issues that you've been having, rather than asking for a specific medication. There may be better / safer options.

(Original post by WazzWazz98)
If being a doctor was as easy as looking things up on Google why would anyone study medicine in the first place ?
Exactly. In California, it is usual for specialists to expect you to decide on your own treatment, which I find very odd. I pay a specialist because they have medical training and understanding that I don't, yet they're often reluctant to make recommendations.
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That’s what you get
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Antipsychotics are notorious for causing weight gain. I went from 140lbs to 230lbs because of antipsychotics. It was a nightmare.

It also made me sleep like 16hours a day and didn't even do its job.
damn, yeah that's crazy
i already sleep up to 15h a day sometimes so i can't imagine what it would do to me
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Not everyone has the same / any side effects from a medication. Many medications have other uses than the primary one that you'll find googling.

IMO, you should simply report the issues that you've been having, rather than asking for a specific medication. There may be better / safer options.


Exactly. In California, it is usual for specialists to expect you to decide on your own treatment, which I find very odd. I pay a specialist because they have medical training and understanding that I don't, yet they're often reluctant to make recommendations.
yeah i know what you mean but the thing is, i'm tired of experimenting and having to deal with side effects. i mean fluoxetine/prozac makes me sleepy but i can deal with that
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That’s what you get
why would you say that?
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damn, yeah that's crazy
i already sleep up to 15h a day sometimes so i can't imagine what it would do to me

yeah i know what you mean but the thing is, i'm tired of experimenting and having to deal with side effects. i mean fluoxetine/prozac makes me sleepy but i can deal with that

why would you say that?
I'm surprised your doc suggested olanzapine after only trying 2 antidepressants. :beard:
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a couple days ago, when i asked him to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, he refused. i couldn't take the side effects from sertraline anymore even at a low dose so i went back to him, and openly told him that i stopped taking sertraline a couple days ago anyway. so basically he charged me twice which was probably on purpose

he agreed to put me back on fluoxetine/prozac, but only if i also take something called olanzapine. he said it was a mood stabilising drug. it's not. i looked it up, it's an antipsychotic. wtf. i have no intention of taking it, obviously. why would he lie to me? is he just experimenting on me? according to google those two drugs shouldn't even be combined. should i report him? he talks behind my back with my boyfriend sometimes, is he even allowed to do that?
You been on antidepressants with fluoxetine but far some reason your GP wants you to take Olanzapine, did he explain why he wants you to take this other tablet !!!

Fluoxetine may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:
nervousness.
anxiety.
difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep.
nausea.
diarrhea.
dry mouth.
heartburn.
yawning.


Some side effects associated with Olanzapine :-
What is the side effect of olanzapine...............
Drowsiness, dizziness, lightheadedness, stomach upset, dry mouth, constipation, increased appetite, or weight gain may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly. Dizziness and lightheadedness can increase the risk of falling.


A lot of medications are used to treat lots of other illnesses as majority are classed together in groups to treat these other illnesses.

It is safe to take two different antidepressants tablets at once if taken under instruction from your GP.
Your GP should be talking to you on this but perhaps telling your partner about how to deal with things !!!
If unsure you should perhaps talk to your GP or local pharmacist about these tablets.



Olanzapine, sold under the trade name Zyprexa among others, is an atypical antipsychotic primarily used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. For schizophrenia, it can be used for both new-onset disease and long-term maintenance. It is taken by mouth or by injection into a muscle


What is the drug olanzapine used for...........
Olanzapine is a medication that works in the brain to treat schizophrenia. It is also known as a second generation antipsychotic (SGA) or atypical antipsychotic. Olanzapine rebalances dopamine and serotonin to improve thinking, mood, and behavior.



What is the side effect of olanzapine......….
Drowsiness, dizziness, lightheadedness, stomach upset, dry mouth, constipation, increased appetite, or weight gain may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly. Dizziness and lightheadedness can increase the risk of falling.
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