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Debt collectors traced my address, if i don't pay, do i go prison?

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Original post by Quiet Benin
I will, they need to wait till 2022 for that. Right now i have nothing.

I just dont want them sending letters to my house whilst im living with parents. its a ****ing secret i had a paypal credit account.

If you don't have any money, they may take items to make up the cost e.g. the device that you are posting from. At the end of the day, you owe them money, can't argue your way out of it. I hope you get it sorted :smile:

I would advise talking to your parents, they may be able to help you out. Better to owe your parent than be racking up interest rates and having debt collectors on your back.
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Original post by Cancelled Alice
If you really wanted to, I am guessing you are unemployed is sign up to an agency, one weeks worth of work and you’d have earned the cash back. For undesirable jobs agencies will make it as easy as possible, with something say in a factory, social skills need not be a concern either.
What are your parents going to say say when the bailiffs turn up at your house?
I am sorry to say this situation is of your own doing- it’s your fault and you are being completely unreasonable.

I'm training to be a teacher but i'm set to be told i fail in two weeks. I was getting student finance but i have used it up now.

I think i will go on universal credit and then use that universal credit to pay the debt. I can't work anymore due to mental health. I'm unemployable
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Original post by BurstingBubbles
If you don't have any money, they may take items to make up the cost e.g. the device that you are posting from. At the end of the day, you owe them money, can't argue your way out of it. I hope you get it sorted :smile:

I would advise talking to your parents, they may be able to help you out. Better to owe your parent than be racking up interest rates and having debt collectors on your back.

I am african. African parents are not chilled. I would have to explain i used paypal credit to use as spending money when i was in uni. It would confirm their years of suspicion that im BAD at handling money.
Original post by Quiet Benin
I'm training to be a teacher but i'm set to be told i fail in two weeks. I was getting student finance but i have used it up now.

I think i will go on universal credit and then use that universal credit to pay the debt. I can't work anymore due to mental health. I'm unemployable

If you are expecting to drop out of teacher training you could start applying for Teaching Assistant roles to start in January. They are often recruiting for TAs in secondary schools and you obviously have some classroom experience so would be a good applicant. Teaching's not for everyone but the TA role is less stressful.
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Original post by Quiet Benin
I'm training to be a teacher but i'm set to be told i fail in two weeks. I was getting student finance but i have used it up now.

I think i will go on universal credit and then use that universal credit to pay the debt. I can't work anymore due to mental health. I'm unemployable

Just bear in mind Universal Credit is not much to live off. It may take time for your first payment to come through, assuming your claim proceeds in a straightforward way. That will delay making payments to this company. It is probably good to take action and get advice right away rather than waiting for your first Universal Credit payment.
After debt advice, even if you can only offer to pay a small amount, it is something. The key thing is to get some advice to help you and make an offer you can afford to keep paying and act now.

I know you didn't ask for advice on the next bit but if you can't cope with a job due to mental health issues then you may have little choice but to claim Universal Credit. However, it is not an easy benefit to be on and it can be hard to retain entitlement in the longer term due to the health assessments and the limited capability for work criteria. If you can possibly cope with work, even part-time, and avoid Universal Credit then, in my opinion, that would be better.
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You need proper legal advice from a solicitors office.
Original post by Quiet Benin
I'm training to be a teacher but i'm set to be told i fail in two weeks. I was getting student finance but i have used it up now.

I think i will go on universal credit and then use that universal credit to pay the debt. I can't work anymore due to mental health. I'm unemployable

Who has decided you are unemployable?

Are you the guy who previously posted about quitting teacher training because you don't know your subject well enough?
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Original post by Quiet Benin
I am african. African parents are not chilled. I would have to explain i used paypal credit to use as spending money when i was in uni. It would confirm their years of suspicion that im BAD at handling money.

Well, they are not wrong.
Original post by Rarest
Well, they are not wrong.

Wow, that's not very helpful.

Op will almost certainly feel better for contacting the debt collection company and coming to an arrangement to pay it back in installments rather than trying to hide from them and hope they'll forget about it.
Having debt thats out of control can make you feel hopelessly trapped under a monster with no way forward, if you start to deal with it by sustainable installments you'll be able to think about the future with some hope.
You do not get a criminal record for debt unless you own money to the government, nor you go to prison. How much do you need to pay? You can often negotiate with them, cut it in half etc. If it is a small sum, usually nothing happens apart of your credit score getting ruined.
Original post by ElderlyMedic
You do not get a criminal record for debt unless you own money to the government, nor you go to prison. How much do you need to pay? You can often negotiate with them, cut it in half etc. If it is a small sum, usually nothing happens apart of your credit score getting ruined.

It was £400, or at least that was the figure before the collection agency got involved.
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As said a few times on here OP, get advice (I would suggest from the number I put on here) and hopefully you can start dealing with it. Don't just ignore it.
However, ignore judgemental comments on the thread which are not overly helpful, in my opinion. Hopefully they won't put other people off asking for advice when they have problems. It would certainly put me off.
I have been in debt as a student years ago due to various factors and we all make mistakes in life. I paid it off.
It is up to you but hopefully you can learn from it.
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Original post by Joinedup
Wow, that's not very helpful.

It's right though... OP isn't taking the situation seriously and trying to lead a double life with their parents, so the situation certainly has the potential to get worse through dishonestly. If not this debt then the next one...

Personally I'd rather my parents found out such a thing if and when I told them, not when two guys in cheap suits appear outside the house and start taking photos of cars in the driveway...
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Original post by Joinedup
Wow, that's not very helpful.

Op will almost certainly feel better for contacting the debt collection company and coming to an arrangement to pay it back in installments rather than trying to hide from them and hope they'll forget about it.
Having debt thats out of control can make you feel hopelessly trapped under a monster with no way forward, if you start to deal with it by sustainable installments you'll be able to think about the future with some hope.

Agreed.
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Original post by ellenyoung123
You need proper legal advice from a solicitors office.

I would just say that unfortunately the cost of this may be likely to put the OP even further in debt:smile:

I posted a link for specialist advice which is free so hopefully OP can get advice there.
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You need to tell your parents. They need to be prepared if someone turns up at the door seeking goods to the value of your debt. They may well be angry but they may also be able to help you pay the debt so that this is not hanging over you. Getting a CCJ will seriously impact your financial life for the next 6 years
Original post by Admit-One
It was £400, or at least that was the figure before the collection agency got involved.


Never let them in your place. You don't have to, they might lie to you to get in. Only bailiff with a court order can do actual stuff. They might try to send you fake Court orders and stuff but with sum so small they might just give up and and sell the debt to another agency.
Try to call them and tell them then you might be willing to pay £150 then agree to £200. Never give them your bank details.
Also, ask for proof of debt, not something they have in their excel spreadsheet the actual paperwork from Paypal. Sometimes, if it already went trough multiple collectors they wont have it.
Original post by ElderlyMedic
Never let them in your place. You don't have to, they might lie to you to get in. Only bailiff with a court order can do actual stuff. They might try to send you fake Court orders and stuff but with sum so small they might just give up and and sell the debt to another agency.
Try to call them and tell them then you might be willing to pay £150 then agree to £200. Never give them your bank details.
Also, ask for proof of debt, not something they have in their excel spreadsheet the actual paperwork from Paypal. Sometimes, if it already went trough multiple collectors they wont have it.

I think this is advice for @Quiet Benin, not me. I was just repeating their figure from above.
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Original post by Admit-One
I think this is advice for @Quiet Benin, not me. I was just repeating their figure from above.

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Original post by ElderlyMedic
Never let them in your place. You don't have to, they might lie to you to get in. Only bailiff with a court order can do actual stuff. They might try to send you fake Court orders and stuff but with sum so small they might just give up and and sell the debt to another agency.
Try to call them and tell them then you might be willing to pay £150 then agree to £200. Never give them your bank details.
Also, ask for proof of debt, not something they have in their excel spreadsheet the actual paperwork from Paypal. Sometimes, if it already went trough multiple collectors they wont have it.

Bit conflicted, on one hand this is mostly correct advice, but it's also basically fraud to claim to your creditors you don't owe them when you know fine well you do. The OP already seems to have problems with debt and honestly, so we prob shouldn't compound them into such a mindset.

BTW be careful of asking for settlements, the firms i worked collections for had a hardline policy to say no when debtors tell us what they're willing to pay, we will demand payment in full (It's often in our collection contract to the creditor that we must do this). If they want to arrange a payment plan or settlement they need to jump through some hoops for us to listen, such as proving income and expenditure or getting CAB on board as a mediator. At the v least get the offer of settlement in WRITING before you pay them, otherwise they'll likely trick you into handing over whatever you have then still chasing you for the rest.

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