Has anyone's family going very far on covid?

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My family is going very far whenever there is an outbreak, from the first community case. There were some incredible streaks done by me, despite there was no total lockdown in my place:
1. 119, 84 and 77 straight days without eating out
2. 37, 32, 34, 28 and 30 straight days without using any public transport. A ,s. a rail/bus fan this is really rare. I have also broken the record for the fewest number of bus routes (14) and bus operators (1, which was KMB) ridden in a calendar year in 2020.
My family has calculated the minimum amount of time we can be outside each day, and we are often outside for that amount of time. We are almost always the first to leave church, as we have eliminated all socialising if it is not needed. We almost always drive instead of taking public transport, but we are now doing it to a lesser extent since July. I was confined to be inside, even during holidays, until June 2021, when I have completed my first dose, unless I am going out for essential purposes. Then in June I started to go out for epic HK Disneyland runs and doing transport challenges, such as All The Stations, after being confined to home for more than a year.
And now, just because of one single local case of Omicron in HK community, which was a close contact of a pilot, my parents have confined me to be at home until 4th February! That's just crazy!
In addition, everything which touched a public surface had to undergo extensive cleaning within 15 minutes after we arrive home or the item is delivered. We had to wash our hands as many as 5 times in the 30 minutes after arriving home, which made us run out of hand cream! This is able to make sure that no germs can be able to enter the home.
Has anyone's family going that far on covid?
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We're pretty rigid to be honest. We use Dettol anti viral wipes on every letter or parcel that comes to the house, and on all the grocery. We wear Cambridge masks if we leave the house. Relatives aren't allowed to visit unless they wear a mask or take an lft, and they must be vaccinated. We choose quieter times to do anything, for example going on week days during school times to visit places like cinema, beaches, or theme parks, to ensure there won't be much of a crowd.
We won't go anywhere that we have to remove masks for unless it's a dental emergency (so no restaurants or pubs for example).
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We're pretty rigid to be honest. We use Dettol anti viral wipes on every letter or parcel that comes to the house, and on all the grocery. We wear Cambridge masks if we leave the house. Relatives aren't allowed to visit unless they wear a mask or take an lft, and they must be vaccinated. We choose quieter times to do anything, for example going on week days during school times to visit places like cinema, beaches, or theme parks, to ensure there won't be much of a crowd.
We won't go anywhere that we have to remove masks for unless it's a dental emergency (so no restaurants or pubs for example).
When we go to Disneyland, we never wait more than 30 minutes for a ride. We usually avoid crowds.
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My family is going very far whenever there is an outbreak, from the first community case. There were some incredible streaks done by me, despite there was no total lockdown in my place:
1. 119, 84 and 77 straight days without eating out
2. 37, 32, 34, 28 and 30 straight days without using any public transport. A ,s. a rail/bus fan this is really rare. I have also broken the record for the fewest number of bus routes (14) and bus operators (1, which was KMB) ridden in a calendar year in 2020.
I'd ask why the hell you keep count of all that stuff... But... 2021 is probably a good excuse on its own.

As for the question? Nope. My family isn't particularly bothered. I'm not particularly bothered, I live in a rural area so community transmission isn't exactly the biggest worry anyway. I don't use public transport unless there's a reason to, so basically never because, while my area is well connected, the bus routes are terrible. A nearby market town takes 1 hour+ by bus. You can drive there in 15 minutes and get 30 minutes free parking. In other words, I can get there, get what I want and get home before I would've even got there by bus. Work is a similar story, 1 hour bus ride or 10-20 minutes by car

In fact, I actually went on a bit of a pub crawl with some friends from work last night. That's how little I'm bothered about Corona, especially now that it's being touted as something that can be mistaken for the common cold. That and, according to the CDC, the IFR is so low for my age that it places my chance of survival at more than 99%... So uh... Why are we up in arms over what is essentially a bad cold now?
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I don't get the obsession with being inside as much as possible. You're less likely to catch it while outside, and if you do catch it, you're less likely to be seriously ill if you are otherwise fit and well. And for goodness sake, when you come in wash your hands once, properly, not five times over the period of half an hour. Quality not quantity.

I'm just bemused by the concept that people would both be hysterical about going outside and also go to a theme park and queue for rides for up to half an hour.

Let's hope it's mutated into something which has no more consequences than the common cold for all age groups. I think that's the remaining uncertainty - the current spread is almost all in younger agegroups who weren't at much risk anyway and we really don't know yet how bad it's likely to be in the elderly.
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it places my chance of survival at more than 99%... So uh... Why are we up in arms over what is essentially a bad cold now?
99% of what number? Because there's ~1% that don't survive, and that could be a huge figure, and I'd be incredibly unhappy if that was a relative or friend of mine in that 1%.

Plus for some it isn't a bad cold; they require hospitalisation and the use of medical resources, which is a drain on the system for other conditions.
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99% of what number? Because there's ~1% that don't survive, and that could be a huge figure, and I'd be incredibly unhappy if that was a relative or friend of mine in that 1%.

Plus for some it isn't a bad cold; they require hospitalisation and the use of medical resources, which is a drain on the system for other conditions.
The CDC's estimated survival rate for people between 18-49... 500 of 1M will die. That's something like a 0.05% IFR for my age group. In other words, 99.95% chance of survival. So in this case, no, it isn't quite ~1%.

I really don't care at this point. If you're weak enough to get killed by Covid, you're going to die of some illness sooner rather than later, be it Covid or something else. Why should the rest of society and future generations suffer for the sake of the minority who, let's be honest, are mostly old people who contribute very little, if at all, to society and many of which are already draining the system anyway.

Hell, I really don't care how it goes either way.
We get back to normal? Good.
We close again? Cool, don't care. I've still got my job, healthcare supplies (inc test kits), pest control, agricultural supplies, cleaning and hygiene chemicals... Those things aren't going to stop moving any time soon. My job is safe.
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For a little bit of context, OP is from HK where both the government and all its population are incredibly "paranoid" over COVID.

It's still very much practising and aiming for a completely "zero COVID" policy. The number of (locally transmitted) cases there are <10 every day. In a city with a population that's comparable to London that's crazy to think about.

For OP's information, TSR is a UK based forum and people in the UK especially England are much more relaxed compared to those in East Asia.

You'd be lucky if you have > 5/10 people wearing a mask in a public place, I can assure you that no one here counts the number of minutes that they are outside or in a bus.
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The CDC's estimated survival rate for people between 18-49... 500 of 1M will die. That's something like a 0.05% IFR for my age group. In other words, 99.95% chance of survival. So in this case, no, it isn't quite ~1%.

I really don't care at this point. If you're weak enough to get killed by Covid, you're going to die of some illness sooner rather than later, be it Covid or something else. Why should the rest of society and future generations suffer for the sake of the minority who, let's be honest, are mostly old people who contribute very little, if at all, to society and many of which are already draining the system anyway.

Hell, I really don't care how it goes either way.
We get back to normal? Good.
We close again? Cool, don't care. I've still got my job, doesn't impact me at all.
So Captain Tom didn't contribute anything to society? One of my family is not old, is clinically vulnerable and has an MBE for charity work; has she not contributed to society? Haven't the people you're denigrating also paid into the system? Aren't people who become ill through smokjng or drinking to excess or doing illegal drugs or are injured crashing their car by driving recklessly a drain on resources?
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So Captain Tom didn't contribute anything to society? One of my family is not old, is clinically vulnerable and has an MBE for charity work; has she not contributed to society? Haven't the people you're denigrating also paid into the system? Aren't people who become ill through smokjng or drinking to excess or doing illegal drugs or are injured crashing their car by driving recklessly a drain on resources?
Ahhh two examples! My point is rendered moot by a small minority! /s

Yes, they have. But they aren't now. A country can't survive on what was paid in the past. There's a reason an ageing population is undesirable for a country and that's why. If you're not contributing, you're a drain. Is it unfair to those who've already paid into the system? Sure, but that's how our society currently works. The truth isn't always sunshine and roses.

And yes. Yes they are. Don't forget obese people that are eating themselves to an early grave. What's the point being made here because I believe those people should be subject to partially subsidised (too keep it accessible) healthcare for issues caused by their choices.
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Ahhh two examples! My point is rendered moot by a small minority! /s

Yes, they have. But they aren't now. A country can't survive on what was paid in the past. There's a reason an ageing population is undesirable for a country and that's why. If you're not contributing, you're a drain. Is it unfair to those who've already paid into the system? Sure, but that's how our society currently works. The truth isn't always sunshine and roses.

And yes. Yes they are. Don't forget obese people that are eating themselves to an early grave. What's the point being made here because I believe those people should be subject to partially subsidised (too keep it accessible) healthcare for issues caused by their choices.
I could give a lot more examples, and people still pay into the system now, both financially (working or tax on pensions) and practically, with volunteering, babysitting etc. But if they've paid into the system, why can't they access it? If as a 5yo you need hospital treatment for a broken leg you aren't refused it because you haven't paid into the system.

What about people who don't have a choice in their medical condition? Some are genetic or developed through no fault of their own. Why shouldn't they be looked after?
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We've got people in the family who are vulnerable or who may be carriers as we work and can't do so from home, and do some activities which involve contact with others. Hence we test before visiting, wear masks, wash hands, wipe surfaces and items. We're careful, but haven't put our whole lives on hold.
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My family is going very far whenever there is an outbreak, from the first community case. There were some incredible streaks done by me, despite there was no total lockdown in my place:
1. 119, 84 and 77 straight days without eating out
2. 37, 32, 34, 28 and 30 straight days without using any public transport. A ,s. a rail/bus fan this is really rare. I have also broken the record for the fewest number of bus routes (14) and bus operators (1, which was KMB) ridden in a calendar year in 2020.
My family has calculated the minimum amount of time we can be outside each day, and we are often outside for that amount of time. We are almost always the first to leave church, as we have eliminated all socialising if it is not needed. We almost always drive instead of taking public transport, but we are now doing it to a lesser extent since July. I was confined to be inside, even during holidays, until June 2021, when I have completed my first dose, unless I am going out for essential purposes. Then in June I started to go out for epic HK Disneyland runs and doing transport challenges, such as All The Stations, after being confined to home for more than a year.
And now, just because of one single local case of Omicron in HK community, which was a close contact of a pilot, my parents have confined me to be at home until 4th February! That's just crazy!
In addition, everything which touched a public surface had to undergo extensive cleaning within 15 minutes after we arrive home or the item is delivered. We had to wash our hands as many as 5 times in the 30 minutes after arriving home, which made us run out of hand cream! This is able to make sure that no germs can be able to enter the home.
Has anyone's family going that far on covid?
For the sake of you and your families mental/ physical health, you should relax this.
At one of the places where I work, we don’t sanitise incoming items, but we would place them in to a 3 day quarantine.
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We're pretty rigid to be honest. We use Dettol anti viral wipes on every letter or parcel that comes to the house, and on all the grocery. We wear Cambridge masks if we leave the house. Relatives aren't allowed to visit unless they wear a mask or take an lft, and they must be vaccinated. We choose quieter times to do anything, for example going on week days during school times to visit places like cinema, beaches, or theme parks, to ensure there won't be much of a crowd.
We won't go anywhere that we have to remove masks for unless it's a dental emergency (so no restaurants or pubs for example).
That’s just completely overkill.
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We've got people in the family who are vulnerable or who may be carriers as we work and can't do so from home, and do some activities which involve contact with others. Hence we test before visiting, wear masks, wash hands, wipe surfaces and items. We're careful, but haven't put our whole lives on hold.
All you need to do is test and wash your hands, overkill
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I probably go the furthest in my family. I do 3 LTFs a week and 1 PCR in addition. I also wear a mask outside because I can’t be bothered to remove it between shops/ restaurants.
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That’s just completely overkill.
We haven't caught covid yet. I'm happy to continue as we are.
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No. We don’t wipe anything down after it comes into the house. People don’t usually come round, but if they do my parents don’t have requirements (no tests, masks, vaccinations etc). We don’t do tests either (my sister does though, she works in a hospital).

Day to day, I try and live my life as normal as possible. I don’t wear a mask, or wash my hands as I enter a shop. I still go to restaurants and other venues. I get on about 4 trains everyday and I feel fine, I have anxiety anyway - so I’d rather not make it worse by being really really worried about catching covid.
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I could give a lot more examples, and people still pay into the system now, both financially (working or tax on pensions) and practically, with volunteering, babysitting etc. But if they've paid into the system, why can't they access it?
Who said they shouldn't be able to? I know I didn't

If as a 5yo you need hospital treatment for a broken leg you aren't refused it because you haven't paid into the system.
Again with the strawman. Who said they shouldn't be able to access. And please, use some common sense, a 5 year old has no way to pay into the system anyway, they've simply not been offered the, oh so glorious opportunity to have part of their wages taken by the Government.

What about people who don't have a choice in their medical condition? Some are genetic or developed through no fault of their own. Why shouldn't they be looked after?
And it's a hattrick strawman. Again, who's saying they shouldn't be looked after? I simply said those who put themselves into the hospital through their own actions should be forced to cover part of the cost. Not that they should be denied help.

And yes. Not all these cases are their fault. Presumably, this is aimed at the part about obese people? I felt there was a very heavy implication that I wasn't talking about those who have conditions that may cause it... You know... If you're eating yourself into an early grave, that doesn't exactly scream medical condition as the cause now does it? It was quite clearly aimed towards self-inflicted obesity.
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