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Moving to Germany/EU straight after medical school vs F1

I was wondering if anyone here has moved to the EU straight after med school and whether they had to do any additional exams because they didn't have the full GMC registration?I want to move to Germany to my family asap but don't want to have to do extra exams that I'm not used to. Not too keen on F1 but if things later down the line will be easier if I do it, then I'll do it...Any help appreciated !
Original post by Anna21768
I was wondering if anyone here has moved to the EU straight after med school and whether they had to do any additional exams because they didn't have the full GMC registration?I want to move to Germany to my family asap but don't want to have to do extra exams that I'm not used to. Not too keen on F1 but if things later down the line will be easier if I do it, then I'll do it...Any help appreciated !


Hi there,

I am applying to Germany and am currently in F1. Have you heard anymore information regarding this? Thanks!
Original post by Anonymous
Hi there,

I am applying to Germany and am currently in F1. Have you heard anymore information regarding this? Thanks!

Hi

I haven't heard anymore but did a bit of googling and it seems like we can just apply for the "Approbation" after F1 which will allow you to start practicing. We will have more paperwork than German med students do because we have to translate and get our documents certified (saying that a UK degree = German degree).

As the German degree is 6 years with the final year being the "Praktisches Jahr" where they don't get paid but it's similar to F1 except probably less responsibility. They do an exam at the end which is their finals and then they have to apply for Approbation as well which takes a couple of months. After that they apply for specialisation. I think we would transfer at that stage, esp you cos you will have the full GMC licence a couple of months before F1 ends.

I think these 2 documents are quite helpful
The english version: https://approbatio.de/approbation-for-foreign-doctors-in-germany/
The german/more official version: https://www.arbeitsagentur.de/vor-ort/zav/download/1533755031373.pdf

Both documents talk about the 'Kenntnisprüfung' but I hope and pray that this isn't relevant for us because the first document says:
'If deficits are identified in the equivalency examination, the Kenntnisprüfung must be taken.'
I think because the UK and Germany have similar standards, that there will probably not be any discrepancies.

Do let me know if you find out more!
Original post by Anna21768
Hi

I haven't heard anymore but did a bit of googling and it seems like we can just apply for the "Approbation" after F1 which will allow you to start practicing. We will have more paperwork than German med students do because we have to translate and get our documents certified (saying that a UK degree = German degree).

As the German degree is 6 years with the final year being the "Praktisches Jahr" where they don't get paid but it's similar to F1 except probably less responsibility. They do an exam at the end which is their finals and then they have to apply for Approbation as well which takes a couple of months. After that they apply for specialisation. I think we would transfer at that stage, esp you cos you will have the full GMC licence a couple of months before F1 ends.

I think these 2 documents are quite helpful
The english version: https://approbatio.de/approbation-for-foreign-doctors-in-germany/
The german/more official version: https://www.arbeitsagentur.de/vor-ort/zav/download/1533755031373.pdf

Both documents talk about the 'Kenntnisprüfung' but I hope and pray that this isn't relevant for us because the first document says:
'If deficits are identified in the equivalency examination, the Kenntnisprüfung must be taken.'
I think because the UK and Germany have similar standards, that there will probably not be any discrepancies.

Do let me know if you find out more!

Just out of curiousity, are you German? Or have family in Germany?

I've not even started a med degree yet but I've been looking at jobs in Europe post-qualification and it seems incredibly complicated now that we've left the EU.
Original post by medicphd
Just out of curiousity, are you German? Or have family in Germany?

I've not even started a med degree yet but I've been looking at jobs in Europe post-qualification and it seems incredibly complicated now that we've left the EU.

Both!

I think there's more paperwork cos of brexit but I think most countries are happy to take on qualified doctors esp cos there's shortages everywhere and they haven't had to pay for our medical school training.

I know from a friend to started doing med school in the middle East but then transferred here that a few of her friends transferred to Germany for specialty training so it shouldn't be that difficult, esp cos the teaching and the health system in European countries is more similar I think
Original post by username4511546
Both!

I think there's more paperwork cos of brexit but I think most countries are happy to take on qualified doctors esp cos there's shortages everywhere and they haven't had to pay for our medical school training.

I know from a friend to started doing med school in the middle East but then transferred here that a few of her friends transferred to Germany for specialty training so it shouldn't be that difficult, esp cos the teaching and the health system in European countries is more similar I think

Good to know!

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