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Criminal Law Moot

I'm a bit confused as to what area of law my moot falls under. I don't want any help finding authorities or anything like that, but it would be helpful if somebody could point me in the right direction of the area of criminal law it is.

Not sure if I'm allowed to post it on here, but I could PM it to somebody.

I'm confused because it is about a man pointing a gun (which he thought was loaded, but infact his wife took the bullets out) at some innocent people he had got the wrong idea about...so I thought the issue here would be intention, except (1) he was charged under the Firearms Act 1968, rather than assault - do I need to have studied firearm offences? Or would my knowledge of intention suffice? And (2) it goes on to give the judge's direction to the jury, and my ground of appeal is that "the judge's direction was wrong and inadequate".

I am really confused about this!

Reply 1

I'll deal with your second question first.

When a moot talks about jury instructions, it is asking you whether the law, as stated by the judge is correct or incorrect. You can't appeal the jury's decision, as it is an issue of fact (except when a case is referred by the CCRC). Instead, appeals are made against the judge's instructions, arguing that since his instructions were wrong, the verdict is necessarily void.

For example:

Mr Sillyface is charged with assault occasioning ABH. At the conclusion of the trial, Judge Dimwit tells the jury that if they are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that Mr Sillyface caused pain, then they should return a guilty verdict.

Mr Sillyface's lawyer, Ms Smartypants, lodges an appeal against the verdict, arguing that Judge Dimwit's instructions were wrong at law. He stated that the test was whether Mr Sillyface had caused pain, but the proper test that he should have put to the jury was whether or not there was visible physical harm (for example).


Regarding your first question:

Read the statute. Work out what the requisite mens rea is, and then go to the cases to find out how it has been interpreted and applied. Smith and Hogan on Crime by Ormerod is an excellent resource for doing your research for criminal mooting, and I would suggest having a look at it.


Hope that helps, and good luck.

Reply 2

pcok
I'm a bit confused as to what area of law my moot falls under. I don't want any help finding authorities or anything like that, but it would be helpful if somebody could point me in the right direction of the area of criminal law it is.

Not sure if I'm allowed to post it on here, but I could PM it to somebody.

I'm confused because it is about a man pointing a gun (which he thought was loaded, but infact his wife took the bullets out) at some innocent people he had got the wrong idea about...so I thought the issue here would be intention, except (1) he was charged under the Firearms Act 1968, rather than assault - do I need to have studied firearm offences? Or would my knowledge of intention suffice? And (2) it goes on to give the judge's direction to the jury, and my ground of appeal is that "the judge's direction was wrong and inadequate".

I am really confused about this!


Feel free to PM me it if you would like....

Reply 3

MelesMeles
I'll deal with your second question first.

When a moot talks about jury instructions, it is asking you whether the law, as stated by the judge is correct or incorrect. You can't appeal the jury's decision, as it is an issue of fact (except when a case is referred by the CCRC). Instead, appeals are made against the judge's instructions, arguing that since his instructions were wrong, the verdict is necessarily void.

For example:

Mr Sillyface is charged with assault occasioning ABH. At the conclusion of the trial, Judge Dimwit tells the jury that if they are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that Mr Sillyface caused pain, then they should return a guilty verdict.

Mr Sillyface's lawyer, Ms Smartypants, lodges an appeal against the verdict, arguing that Judge Dimwit's instructions were wrong at law. He stated that the test was whether Mr Sillyface had caused pain, but the proper test that he should have put to the jury was whether or not there was visible physical harm (for example).


Regarding your first question:

Read the statute. Work out what the requisite mens rea is, and then go to the cases to find out how it has been interpreted and applied. Smith and Hogan on Crime by Ormerod is an excellent resource for doing your research for criminal mooting, and I would suggest having a look at it.


Hope that helps, and good luck.


Many thanks for that. The jurys' instructions were explained really well, I understand that now. It's pretty much what I thought, but I was just confusing myself with it. I'll have a look at what you have suggested, and will have a look online for the statute. :smile: