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Joshua v Usyk

Will it happen?
Should it happen and does Joshua deserve to duck Usyk to get a big fight with Fury?
Reply 1
It put me in wrong section
Reply 2
want to so see the Joshua Usyk rematch to see if Joshua is good enough to beat him.
Personally I don't think he is and Eddie Hearn has managed to make an ok fighter look worldclass.
Reply 3
Torn on this personally.
On one hand, it is obvious to anyone with eyes that Joshua isnt capable of outboxing Usyk, not in a million years. usyk is too good, too mentally agile, ring IQ is phenomenal, picks his shots better, moves better and his footwork is just levels above Joshua.
Doesnt mean Joshua is rubbish, just Usyk is outstanding. Personally I think Joshua has to uge his obvious advantages to his benefit to have any chance, needs to lean on him, be aggressive and try and hurt Usyk early. Tactics were awful last fight and he looks like he has no confidence, light years away from the mentality he appeared to have vs Klitschko. Seems afraid to get beat.
Long story short, I think usyk beats him again, probably stops him imo but I would like to see the rematch.
Reply 4
Original post by Pars1885
Torn on this personally.
On one hand, it is obvious to anyone with eyes that Joshua isnt capable of outboxing Usyk, not in a million years. usyk is too good, too mentally agile, ring IQ is phenomenal, picks his shots better, moves better and his footwork is just levels above Joshua.
Doesnt mean Joshua is rubbish, just Usyk is outstanding. Personally I think Joshua has to uge his obvious advantages to his benefit to have any chance, needs to lean on him, be aggressive and try and hurt Usyk early. Tactics were awful last fight and he looks like he has no confidence, light years away from the mentality he appeared to have vs Klitschko. Seems afraid to get beat.
Long story short, I think usyk beats him again, probably stops him imo but I would like to see the rematch.

Didn't say he was rubish just not the best.
Reply 5
Original post by LazJ115
Didn't say he was rubish just not the best.

Agreed - didnt mean to suggest you had, apologies if it read that way.
Joshua has been marketed and promoted incredibly well and I think he is getting found out.
Would love to see him in with Wilder though
Finally some more fight fans here, good to see you guys.

I predicted on here Usyk would best Joshua before the first fight. It was there in black and white, but my thread got deleted for certain reasons…

Usyk will beat Joshua even more convincingly in the rematch. Joshua will have to come out and take more risks early on, which means he will gas out more quickly and get stopped between 9 and 12.

Of course Joshua has a chance, but I strongly favour Usyk again.

GUYS: what are your thoughts on Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte.

Finally Fury is fighting a true contender for one of the first times in his career.

This is a FAR MORE INTERESTING fight. I have been anticipating this matchup for years. The build up will be great, it’ll take place at Wembley / Old Trafford / Millennium Stadium and could do a million PPV buys.

I think Fury outboxes Whyte to a comfortable points decision, but if he fights like he did against Wilder in the previous two fights, Whyte has a good chance.

Whyte’s best chance is to hurt Fury to the body, slow him down and catch him with his trademark left hook.

Verdict : FURY wide UD

(Actually, Fury Usyk was expected to happen as Joshua was happy to take £15 million to step aside and Whyte £5 million. Fury **** his pants and wanted nothing to do with Usyk.

Not surprised in the slightest. Usyk is the only true fighting man out of all these guys. Fury needs to stay in shape. I think the Wilder fights have taken a lot out of him, with his style I think he has regressed and would lose to Usyk if they were ever to fight).

EDIT: just reread your post so will answer your question). Of course it should happen because Joshua has a rematch clause. I would have liked to see Usyk Fury instead but Fury Whyte and Joshua Usyk are still great fights).

Usyk Fury was supposed to happen, but Fury didn’t want it (or / and his team)
(edited 2 years ago)
Reply 7
Original post by Driving_Mad
Finally some more fight fans here, good to see you guys.

I predicted on here Usyk would best Joshua before the first fight. It was there in black and white, but my thread got deleted for certain reasons…

Usyk will beat Joshua even more convincingly in the rematch. Joshua will have to come out and take more risks early on, which means he will gas out more quickly and get stopped between 9 and 12.

Of course Joshua has a chance, but I strongly favour Usyk again.

GUYS: what are your thoughts on Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte.

Finally Fury is fighting a true contender for one of the first times in his career.

This is a FAR MORE INTERESTING fight. I have been anticipating this matchup for years. The build up will be great, it’ll take place at Wembley / Old Trafford / Millennium Stadium and could do a million PPV buys.

I think Fury outboxes Whyte to a comfortable points decision, but if he fights like he did against Wilder in the previous two fights, Whyte has a good chance.

Whyte’s best chance is to hurt Fury to the body, slow him down and catch him with his trademark left hook.

Verdict : FURY wide UD

(Actually, Fury Usyk was expected to happen as Joshua was happy to take £15 million to step aside and Whyte £5 million. Fury **** his pants and wanted nothing to do with Usyk.

Not surprised in the slightest. Usyk is the only true fighting man out of all these guys. Fury needs to stay in shape. I think the Wilder fights have taken a lot out of him, with his style I think he has regressed and would lose to Usyk if they were ever to fight).

EDIT: just reread your post so will answer your question). Of course it should happen because Joshua has a rematch clause. I would have liked to see Usyk Fury instead but Fury Whyte and Joshua Usyk are still great fights).

Usyk Fury was supposed to happen, but Fury didn’t want it (or / and his team)


I like the Whyte v Fury fight. I like both fighters and I agree, wide points victory for Fury. Don’t see Whyte having the ability to trouble him much but I hope I’m wrong. If Whyte can get into the body often and early maybe he can get to him but I see it being a bit of a stroll to be honest. Whyte is game though and there’s something about him I really like, you’re right though it would do big numbers and be a huge fight.

How you feel Whyte v Joshua would go? I think Joshua is mentally fragile at the moment, wasn’t just a case of being caught by a great shot like when he probably overlooked Ruiz but he just got beat badly, was never in the fight and he seems cautious in the ring. Given there’s a bit of needle between them I think it would be a great fight, might make Joshua far more aggressive again which would be good and everyone knows what Whytes like, could turn into a war.
Original post by Pars1885
I like the Whyte v Fury fight. I like both fighters and I agree, wide points victory for Fury. Don’t see Whyte having the ability to trouble him much but I hope I’m wrong. If Whyte can get into the body often and early maybe he can get to him but I see it being a bit of a stroll to be honest. Whyte is game though and there’s something about him I really like, you’re right though it would do big numbers and be a huge fight.

How you feel Whyte v Joshua would go? I think Joshua is mentally fragile at the moment, wasn’t just a case of being caught by a great shot like when he probably overlooked Ruiz but he just got beat badly, was never in the fight and he seems cautious in the ring. Given there’s a bit of needle between them I think it would be a great fight, might make Joshua far more aggressive again which would be good and everyone knows what Whytes like, could turn into a war.


UPDATE: Frank Warren and Queensberry won the Purse Bid with $41 million dollars. Hearn and Matchroom came second with $32 million dollars.

This is for Fury vs Whyte.

I think Whyte will accept the offer but he could easily wait and let it go to court because right now he is only getting 20% I believe which is absurd as WBC have went against standard protocol. If he does I think Fury vacates and has a warm up fight and will fight the winner of Usyk Joshua 2.

From my understanding, this fight won’t take place in the UK. I have done the calculations quickly and there’s no way this deal is economically viable for the fight to take place in the UK. Even a PPV of £29.99 doesn’t bring the required funds. For Joshua Usyk the overall purse was around $20 million.

Insane money for both fighters. They deserve it, but that means SAUDI ARABIA should be the location for the fight they’ll pay a huge site fee.

I agree with you, Joshua stops Whyte. First fight was great viewing and a big fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing it again as they have both improved massively.
Moved this to sport.

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