No plans to call in military to move truckers, says Trudeau
The fact this option was even considered should be alarming to any sane person. The fact its in Canada, world renowned for being a hippy dippy country, just makes it worse.
The police chief, in ones view, be sacked for such outrageous remarks. The truckers, whether or not you agree with their view, are for the most part participating in a peaceful, if maybe misguided, lawful protest. Threatening to set tanks on them is... astounding.
Whether or not you agree with covid restrictions and peoples right to flout them, the chief of police refusing to rule out, thus implicitly admitting it was on the table, calling in tanks (sounds rather like Tiananmen Square to be honest) is rather worrying.
Although, out of interest, does anyone disagree with this and think the thought to send in the military is justified?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60251921
The police chief, in ones view, be sacked for such outrageous remarks. The truckers, whether or not you agree with their view, are for the most part participating in a peaceful, if maybe misguided, lawful protest. Threatening to set tanks on them is... astounding.
Whether or not you agree with covid restrictions and peoples right to flout them, the chief of police refusing to rule out, thus implicitly admitting it was on the table, calling in tanks (sounds rather like Tiananmen Square to be honest) is rather worrying.
Although, out of interest, does anyone disagree with this and think the thought to send in the military is justified?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60251921
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lols no. police say they're seen signs that guns have been brought into the demonstration. bad idea to get the military involved then. besides rioting, someone could get shot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/americas/20220202-canada-police-warn-of-guns-at-trucker-protest-against-vaccine-mandate
fyi not everything that the protesters have done is lawful or peaceful. currently there are numerous investigations into harassment and hate related instances (racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia) so much so Ottawa had to set up a hotline specifically to report criminal activity, assaults and threats just for these demonstrators.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/01/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-hate-incidents-hotline/index.html
there's also been instances of national war monuments being desecrated, vandalised. this is all on top of the fact making property dangerous, useless or difficult to use by creating road blocks for days on end is considered mischief under the Criminal Code of Canada which you can be prosecuted for. police are reluctant to handout charges or tickets tho 'so as not to instigate confrontations with the demonstrators'. basically they're afraid of escalating things into a dangerous situation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/02/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-covid-border-truckers-wednesday/index.html
in Alberta: demonstrators have assaulted RCMP, some almost running them over with their vehicles (see above link and below).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8585533/alberta-rcmp-coutts-protest-convoy/amp/
plus obstructing a highway is against the Criminal Code section 423(1)(g) so this protest in Alberta is obviously illegal. it's also blocking an important (!) highway between Canada and the US that is used to transport food amongst other things, so it's a big deal (this is why they're doing it). i used to live in Alberta; there aren't a lot of highways in the prairies. now if you're transporting then you're either ****ed completely or taking a massive and expensive detour.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/americas/20220202-canada-police-warn-of-guns-at-trucker-protest-against-vaccine-mandate
fyi not everything that the protesters have done is lawful or peaceful. currently there are numerous investigations into harassment and hate related instances (racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia) so much so Ottawa had to set up a hotline specifically to report criminal activity, assaults and threats just for these demonstrators.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/01/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-hate-incidents-hotline/index.html
there's also been instances of national war monuments being desecrated, vandalised. this is all on top of the fact making property dangerous, useless or difficult to use by creating road blocks for days on end is considered mischief under the Criminal Code of Canada which you can be prosecuted for. police are reluctant to handout charges or tickets tho 'so as not to instigate confrontations with the demonstrators'. basically they're afraid of escalating things into a dangerous situation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/02/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-covid-border-truckers-wednesday/index.html
in Alberta: demonstrators have assaulted RCMP, some almost running them over with their vehicles (see above link and below).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8585533/alberta-rcmp-coutts-protest-convoy/amp/
plus obstructing a highway is against the Criminal Code section 423(1)(g) so this protest in Alberta is obviously illegal. it's also blocking an important (!) highway between Canada and the US that is used to transport food amongst other things, so it's a big deal (this is why they're doing it). i used to live in Alberta; there aren't a lot of highways in the prairies. now if you're transporting then you're either ****ed completely or taking a massive and expensive detour.
Original post by Joleee
lols no. police say they're seen signs that guns have been brought into the demonstration. bad idea to get the military involved then. besides rioting, someone could get shot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/americas/20220202-canada-police-warn-of-guns-at-trucker-protest-against-vaccine-mandate
fyi not everything that the protesters have done is lawful or peaceful. currently there are numerous investigations into harassment and hate related instances (racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia) so much so Ottawa had to set up a hotline specifically to report criminal activity, assaults and threats just for these demonstrators.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/01/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-hate-incidents-hotline/index.html
there's also been instances of national war monuments being desecrated, vandalised. this is all on top of the fact making property dangerous, useless or difficult to use by creating road blocks for days on end is considered mischief under the Criminal Code of Canada which you can be prosecuted for. police are reluctant to handout charges or tickets tho 'so as not to instigate confrontations with the demonstrators'. basically they're afraid of escalating things into a dangerous situation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/02/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-covid-border-truckers-wednesday/index.html
in Alberta: demonstrators have assaulted RCMP, some almost running them over with their vehicles (see above link and below).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8585533/alberta-rcmp-coutts-protest-convoy/amp/
plus obstructing a highway is against the Criminal Code section 423(1)(g) so this protest in Alberta is obviously illegal. it's also blocking an important (!) highway between Canada and the US that is used to transport food amongst other things, so it's a big deal (this is why they're doing it). i used to live in Alberta; there aren't a lot of highways in the prairies. now if you're transporting then you're either ****ed completely or taking a massive and expensive detour.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/americas/20220202-canada-police-warn-of-guns-at-trucker-protest-against-vaccine-mandate
fyi not everything that the protesters have done is lawful or peaceful. currently there are numerous investigations into harassment and hate related instances (racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia) so much so Ottawa had to set up a hotline specifically to report criminal activity, assaults and threats just for these demonstrators.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/01/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-hate-incidents-hotline/index.html
there's also been instances of national war monuments being desecrated, vandalised. this is all on top of the fact making property dangerous, useless or difficult to use by creating road blocks for days on end is considered mischief under the Criminal Code of Canada which you can be prosecuted for. police are reluctant to handout charges or tickets tho 'so as not to instigate confrontations with the demonstrators'. basically they're afraid of escalating things into a dangerous situation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/02/americas/canada-ottawa-protests-covid-border-truckers-wednesday/index.html
in Alberta: demonstrators have assaulted RCMP, some almost running them over with their vehicles (see above link and below).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8585533/alberta-rcmp-coutts-protest-convoy/amp/
plus obstructing a highway is against the Criminal Code section 423(1)(g) so this protest in Alberta is obviously illegal. it's also blocking an important (!) highway between Canada and the US that is used to transport food amongst other things, so it's a big deal (this is why they're doing it). i used to live in Alberta; there aren't a lot of highways in the prairies. now if you're transporting then you're either ****ed completely or taking a massive and expensive detour.
In fairness, thats rather the point of a protest. It would be rather a waste of time if you did it somewhere that didnt inconvenience people. Although, the location, is quite apt considering their profession.
True say on the criminal activity but nevertheless, the accounts of hate speech, whilst unpleasant, are still rather far away from requiring the military,. no?
Criminal activity or not, i stand by the point that threatening to set the army on them is a gross overreaction to a bunch of pot belly truckers not wanting to be jabbed - although from the articles most of them are anyway and merely object on principle to their lord and master. His position is a touch ironic given his dubious past and present though
Original post by Napp
In fairness, thats rather the point of a protest. It would be rather a waste of time if you did it somewhere that didnt inconvenience people. Although, the location, is quite apt considering their profession.
True say on the criminal activity but nevertheless, the accounts of hate speech, whilst unpleasant, are still rather far away from requiring the military,. no?
Criminal activity or not, i stand by the point that threatening to set the army on them is a gross overreaction to a bunch of pot belly truckers not wanting to be jabbed - although from the articles most of them are anyway and merely object on principle to their lord and master. His position is a touch ironic given his dubious past and present though
True say on the criminal activity but nevertheless, the accounts of hate speech, whilst unpleasant, are still rather far away from requiring the military,. no?
Criminal activity or not, i stand by the point that threatening to set the army on them is a gross overreaction to a bunch of pot belly truckers not wanting to be jabbed - although from the articles most of them are anyway and merely object on principle to their lord and master. His position is a touch ironic given his dubious past and present though
yes of course! you want to make an actual impact you plan your protest in an area that actually affects people. makes no sense to plan a protest in the middle of nowhere Saskatchewan
like, maybe you got some grain to preach to. yeah the demonstrators are ****ing over their colleagues in an illegal way by obstructing the highway, carrying guns and assaulting RCMP.
it was a protest planned knowing it was an illegal protest (hopefully. cuz like why else are you carrying a guns there).
the rest of i agree of course!
maybe Canada sends in tanks and air traffic control for your reasonable purposes. i mean you're hunting down Saddam HusseinOriginal post by Joleee
yes of course! you want to make an actual impact you plan your protest in an area that actually affects people. makes no sense to plan a protest in the middle of nowhere Saskatchewan like, maybe you got some grain to preach to.
yeah the demonstrators are ****ing over their colleagues in an illegal way by obstructing the highway, carrying guns and assaulting RCMP.
it was a protest planned knowing it was an illegal protest (hopefully. cuz like why else are you carrying a guns there).
the rest of i agree of course! maybe Canada sends in tanks and air traffic control for your reasonable purposes. i mean you're hunting down Saddam Hussein
like, maybe you got some grain to preach to. yeah the demonstrators are ****ing over their colleagues in an illegal way by obstructing the highway, carrying guns and assaulting RCMP.
it was a protest planned knowing it was an illegal protest (hopefully. cuz like why else are you carrying a guns there).
the rest of i agree of course!
maybe Canada sends in tanks and air traffic control for your reasonable purposes. i mean you're hunting down Saddam HusseinIn fairness to the protestors (i do find myself in a very strange position actually sympathising with protestors for a change
) it is self evident that the majority of the original ones were perfectly fine in their behaviour, just with any protest in general, a small percentage of the remainder displaying loutish behavior I see that the donation website, whose name i utterly forget, has seized the donations for it though, with another one stepping into the breach
Original post by Napp
In fairness to the protestors (i do find myself in a very strange position actually sympathising with protestors for a change ) it is self evident that the majority of the original ones were perfectly fine in their behaviour, just with any protest in general, a small percentage of the remainder displaying loutish behavior
I see that the donation website, whose name i utterly forget, has seized the donations for it though, with another one stepping into the breach
) it is self evident that the majority of the original ones were perfectly fine in their behaviour, just with any protest in general, a small percentage of the remainder displaying loutish behavior I see that the donation website, whose name i utterly forget, has seized the donations for it though, with another one stepping into the breach
yeah mate, i don't disagree with you. i'm sure vastt majority of protestors aren't breaking Canadian law or carrying guns; it's just crack addicts(!) were drawn to this demonstration. other people can't continue these closed roads legally. my brother can't go to work in Ottawa politics. truckers carrying important things can't go to work across the boarder. something has to be done (obvs not military
).
These truckers are doing God's work.
These "flash points" are going to get more and more common as politics gets more divisive. At some point a "liberal democratic" government is going to either do one of two things.
1- either collapse due to the various disorder
2- transition to a more authoritarian state (which could backfire even worse than 1)
Very optimistic about the future I think we could see a USSR style situation hit most of the western world where more and more people wake up to the fact that the system is an evil incompetent sham.
These "flash points" are going to get more and more common as politics gets more divisive. At some point a "liberal democratic" government is going to either do one of two things.
1- either collapse due to the various disorder
2- transition to a more authoritarian state (which could backfire even worse than 1)
Very optimistic about the future I think we could see a USSR style situation hit most of the western world where more and more people wake up to the fact that the system is an evil incompetent sham.
The power of the Global American Empire isn't really in its huge military or government bureaucracy but in its propoganda and security services. Learning from the mistakes of the USSR they learned that instead of having one single state broadcaster as the arbiter of truth the same thing could be achieved with a multitude of different media sources who could differ on inconsequential things but rigidly "bipartisan" on most issues.
They also realised that soft power was much more effective in dealing with dissent. In the old days a protest could be rounded up and shot or roughed up by goons. Now in more civilised times there are plenty of better ways to skin a fish -
you could scour their social media posts for anything bad they may have said or done (or make it up) - you can have groups like the ADL (the new inquisition) point to wrong-thinkers and have woke companies blacklist them so they can't have things like bank accounts-(this is much more effective than just shooting them). And if course there's the ever popular strategy of infiltration that is alive and well (CoIntelPro)- eg it wouldn't surprise me if we see a sudden influx of guys (Def not feds) show up to Ottawa in shiny new trucks with shiny new swastika banners...
Then the army might be sent in, because otherwise you're siding with the Nazis and many people are stupid enough to fall for this. @Napp
But gradually and surely people are starting to wake up. But we haven't seen anything yet.
They also realised that soft power was much more effective in dealing with dissent. In the old days a protest could be rounded up and shot or roughed up by goons. Now in more civilised times there are plenty of better ways to skin a fish -
you could scour their social media posts for anything bad they may have said or done (or make it up) - you can have groups like the ADL (the new inquisition) point to wrong-thinkers and have woke companies blacklist them so they can't have things like bank accounts-(this is much more effective than just shooting them). And if course there's the ever popular strategy of infiltration that is alive and well (CoIntelPro)- eg it wouldn't surprise me if we see a sudden influx of guys (Def not feds) show up to Ottawa in shiny new trucks with shiny new swastika banners...
Then the army might be sent in, because otherwise you're siding with the Nazis and many people are stupid enough to fall for this. @Napp
But gradually and surely people are starting to wake up. But we haven't seen anything yet.
Canadas no.1 Al Jolson tribute act decides to play safe. Probably for the best.
At least they don't block roads for ambulances etc like those eco lunatics do
See how the US is reacting to all this, you have pundits calling to slash their tyres. Threats of arresting and taking away the kids of the protesters.
For what seems to be a pretty damn peaceful protest albeit noisy.
Compare that to back in 2020 and you saw several occupations like CHOP that resulted in several deaths. They had no problem with actual violent protests and occupations but now are going hard down on these people.
See how the US is reacting to all this, you have pundits calling to slash their tyres. Threats of arresting and taking away the kids of the protesters.
For what seems to be a pretty damn peaceful protest albeit noisy.
Compare that to back in 2020 and you saw several occupations like CHOP that resulted in several deaths. They had no problem with actual violent protests and occupations but now are going hard down on these people.
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Interesting to see people who were ok with 90 straight nights of rioting with burning properties all over the country, many in black communities, now going into melt down over honking horns.
interesting update (well interesting to me but i'm from there): Trudeau has triggered the Emergencies Act which will give his administration the power to freeze truckers' personal and corporate bank accounts, freeze the insurance on their rigs and throw away vehicles.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-tuckers-convoy-protest-trudeau-live-b2015265.html?amp
to those who are claiming this is a peaceful protest i would encourage you to actually read the news. there has been 80 criminal investigations into hate crimes and damage to property. businesses have had to shut down for weeks. some protesters are carrying weapons; like in Alberta there has been 11 arrests where police have seized firearms. this is a dangerous situation. never has the Emergencies Act been used before so you see it's not the 'peaceful protest' one would imagine; they ain't singing Kumbaya.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/freedom-convoy-guns-seized-from-group-ready-to-use-force-to-defend-canada-trucker-blockade-as-trudeau-uses-emergency-law-12542205
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841.amp
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-tuckers-convoy-protest-trudeau-live-b2015265.html?amp
to those who are claiming this is a peaceful protest i would encourage you to actually read the news. there has been 80 criminal investigations into hate crimes and damage to property. businesses have had to shut down for weeks. some protesters are carrying weapons; like in Alberta there has been 11 arrests where police have seized firearms. this is a dangerous situation. never has the Emergencies Act been used before so you see it's not the 'peaceful protest' one would imagine; they ain't singing Kumbaya.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/freedom-convoy-guns-seized-from-group-ready-to-use-force-to-defend-canada-trucker-blockade-as-trudeau-uses-emergency-law-12542205
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841.amp
Original post by Joleee
interesting update (well interesting to me but i'm from there): Trudeau has triggered the Emergencies Act which will give his administration the power to freeze truckers' personal and corporate bank accounts, freeze the insurance on their rigs and throw away vehicles.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-tuckers-convoy-protest-trudeau-live-b2015265.html?amp
to those who are claiming this is a peaceful protest i would encourage you to actually read the news. there has been 80 criminal investigations into hate crimes and damage to property. businesses have had to shut down for weeks. some protesters are carrying weapons; like in Alberta there has been 11 arrests where police have seized firearms. this is a dangerous situation. never has the Emergencies Act been used before so you see it's not the 'peaceful protest' one would imagine; they ain't singing Kumbaya.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/freedom-convoy-guns-seized-from-group-ready-to-use-force-to-defend-canada-trucker-blockade-as-trudeau-uses-emergency-law-12542205
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841.amp
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-tuckers-convoy-protest-trudeau-live-b2015265.html?amp
to those who are claiming this is a peaceful protest i would encourage you to actually read the news. there has been 80 criminal investigations into hate crimes and damage to property. businesses have had to shut down for weeks. some protesters are carrying weapons; like in Alberta there has been 11 arrests where police have seized firearms. this is a dangerous situation. never has the Emergencies Act been used before so you see it's not the 'peaceful protest' one would imagine; they ain't singing Kumbaya.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/freedom-convoy-guns-seized-from-group-ready-to-use-force-to-defend-canada-trucker-blockade-as-trudeau-uses-emergency-law-12542205
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841.amp
I have read the news and also watched hours of independent voices on this. The mainstream media are lying to suit a narrative they support and the establishment. Plenty of agent provocateurs have been discovered and moved out of the protest peacefully. I wonder how many feds are infiltrating and causing trouble to provide an excuse for the police using force. This is something the media won't report on because they are largely funded by the state in Canada. The difference between the coverage between the summer of love and the freedom protest. The phrase is a largely peaceful but fiery protest against the truckers are white supremacists etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDwMLWWE1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4KEK7lrNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5q_MVT4d4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0jrBDba7f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFuL4aOt_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQIW-80Irf0
Original post by Sha-ney-ney
I have read the news and also watched hours of independent voices on this. The mainstream media are lying to suit a narrative they support and the establishment. Plenty of agent provocateurs have been discovered and moved out of the protest peacefully. I wonder how many feds are infiltrating and causing trouble to provide an excuse for the police using force. This is something the media won't report on because they are largely funded by the state in Canada. The difference between the coverage between the summer of love and the freedom protest. The phrase is a largely peaceful but fiery protest against the truckers are white supremacists etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDwMLWWE1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4KEK7lrNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5q_MVT4d4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0jrBDba7f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFuL4aOt_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQIW-80Irf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDwMLWWE1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4KEK7lrNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5q_MVT4d4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0jrBDba7f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFuL4aOt_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQIW-80Irf0
i would suggest go reading actual reliable news sources.
Original post by Joleee
i would suggest go reading actual reliable news sources.
Who is reliable these days
they all have a bias. Just look at the Kyle Rittenhouse case about Legacy media bias and dishonesty. I suggest you need to be more open-minded and look at a wider array of sources, the truth is muddied in others interests. Sometimes you have to scrutinise a lot of sources to gather a better picture. Youtube is just another platform for independent voices to be able to communicate and share information (I bet you are going to shill the disinformation line next). Viva Frei is a Canadian Lawyer so is he less of a lawyer now that he's on YouTube? and that compared to a random Canadian Lawyer on a student forum?There are hundreds of hours of footage that show a largely peaceful yet very annoying protest. Rarely trouble other than the usual ********s. The person carting the confederate flag was masked up like an Antifa member, not the usually open-faced and unmask trucker protester type. I think Canada is in the middle of a FEDBOY winter!
Strange that it's ok to Burn Loot and Murder and take donation money and use it in a less than transparent manner. Yet the government will steel the funds raised to stop protestors freezing in the winter. "Human rights for Me and my idealogical allies but not for the heathen".
Rather this than CHAD or CHOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMS-3xE18mM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8GCwmGu84
Here is an example of how fact-checkers are not reliable https://nypost.com/2021/12/14/facebook-admits-the-truth-fact-checks-are-really-just-lefty-opinion/.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/how-facebook-uses-fact-checking-to-suppress-scientific-truth/
https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-presence-of-unexpected-biases-in-online-fact-checking/
In all honesty, you do have to admire the Canadiens being so polite about things. If this was in another country I doubt it would be so civilised and well mannered.
Original post by Sha-ney-ney
Who is reliable these days they all have a bias. Just look at the Kyle Rittenhouse case about Legacy media bias and dishonesty. I suggest you need to be more open-minded and look at a wider array of sources, the truth is muddied in others interests. Sometimes you have to scrutinise a lot of sources to gather a better picture. Youtube is just another platform for independent voices to be able to communicate and share information (I bet you are going to shill the disinformation line next). Viva Frei is a Canadian Lawyer so is he less of a lawyer now that he's on YouTube? and that compared to a random Canadian Lawyer on a student forum?
There are hundreds of hours of footage that show a largely peaceful yet very annoying protest. Rarely trouble other than the usual ********s. The person carting the confederate flag was masked up like an Antifa member, not the usually open-faced and unmask trucker protester type. I think Canada is in the middle of a FEDBOY winter!
Strange that it's ok to Burn Loot and Murder and take donation money and use it in a less than transparent manner. Yet the government will steel the funds raised to stop protestors freezing in the winter. "Human rights for Me and my idealogical allies but not for the heathen".
Rather this than CHAD or CHOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMS-3xE18mM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8GCwmGu84
Here is an example of how fact-checkers are not reliable https://nypost.com/2021/12/14/facebook-admits-the-truth-fact-checks-are-really-just-lefty-opinion/.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/how-facebook-uses-fact-checking-to-suppress-scientific-truth/
https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-presence-of-unexpected-biases-in-online-fact-checking/
In all honesty, you do have to admire the Canadiens being so polite about things. If this was in another country I doubt it would be so civilised and well mannered.
they all have a bias. Just look at the Kyle Rittenhouse case about Legacy media bias and dishonesty. I suggest you need to be more open-minded and look at a wider array of sources, the truth is muddied in others interests. Sometimes you have to scrutinise a lot of sources to gather a better picture. Youtube is just another platform for independent voices to be able to communicate and share information (I bet you are going to shill the disinformation line next). Viva Frei is a Canadian Lawyer so is he less of a lawyer now that he's on YouTube? and that compared to a random Canadian Lawyer on a student forum?There are hundreds of hours of footage that show a largely peaceful yet very annoying protest. Rarely trouble other than the usual ********s. The person carting the confederate flag was masked up like an Antifa member, not the usually open-faced and unmask trucker protester type. I think Canada is in the middle of a FEDBOY winter!
Strange that it's ok to Burn Loot and Murder and take donation money and use it in a less than transparent manner. Yet the government will steel the funds raised to stop protestors freezing in the winter. "Human rights for Me and my idealogical allies but not for the heathen".
Rather this than CHAD or CHOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMS-3xE18mM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8GCwmGu84
Here is an example of how fact-checkers are not reliable https://nypost.com/2021/12/14/facebook-admits-the-truth-fact-checks-are-really-just-lefty-opinion/.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/how-facebook-uses-fact-checking-to-suppress-scientific-truth/
https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-presence-of-unexpected-biases-in-online-fact-checking/
In all honesty, you do have to admire the Canadiens being so polite about things. If this was in another country I doubt it would be so civilised and well mannered.
all news sources have some level of bias, sure. but that doesn't mean they can make up basic facts as you have suggested. did you by chance read any of the six sources i've posted above? which one is a lie? the 11 arrests for carrying firearms? the 80 criminal investigations? the hate crime hotline? the fact businesses in the area have had to shut down for weeks? or the fact that Trudeau triggered the Emergencies Act? ps yes many of my sources have also mentioned it's a largely peaceful protest. were they lying about that too?
is this a lie? four charged for police murder plot? no, of course not because reporters can't fabricate charges.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rcmp-arrest-murder-charge-coutts-b2016482.html%3famp
you can't get your news from YouTubers; they are not journalists, they don't have the access journalists have and they don't have to follow any media regulations and standards and laws. you are aware that Ofcom regulates the media in the UK and the Broadcasting Act in Canada sets the standards there? this is unlike YouTubers who aren't regulated and can spread as much propaganda and fake news as they want; no one's fact checking their work. are you in school btw? if you are i would suggest not using YouTubers as sources as your teacher will tell you the same thing.
Original post by Joleee
all news sources have some level of bias, sure. but that doesn't mean they can make up basic facts as you have suggested. did you by chance read any of the six sources i've posted above? which one is a lie? the 11 arrests for carrying firearms? the 80 criminal investigations? the hate crime hotline? the fact businesses in the area have had to shut down for weeks? or the fact that Trudeau triggered the Emergencies Act? ps yes many of my sources have also mentioned it's a largely peaceful protest. were they lying about that too?
is this a lie? four charged for police murder plot? no, of course not because reporters can't fabricate charges.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rcmp-arrest-murder-charge-coutts-b2016482.html%3famp
you can't get your news from YouTubers; they are not journalists, they don't have the access journalists have and they don't have to follow any media regulations and standards and laws. you are aware that Ofcom regulates the media in the UK and the Broadcasting Act in Canada sets the standards there? this is unlike YouTubers who aren't regulated and can spread as much propaganda and fake news as they want; no one's fact checking their work. are you in school btw? if you are i would suggest not using YouTubers as sources as your teacher will tell you the same thing.
is this a lie? four charged for police murder plot? no, of course not because reporters can't fabricate charges.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rcmp-arrest-murder-charge-coutts-b2016482.html%3famp
you can't get your news from YouTubers; they are not journalists, they don't have the access journalists have and they don't have to follow any media regulations and standards and laws. you are aware that Ofcom regulates the media in the UK and the Broadcasting Act in Canada sets the standards there? this is unlike YouTubers who aren't regulated and can spread as much propaganda and fake news as they want; no one's fact checking their work. are you in school btw? if you are i would suggest not using YouTubers as sources as your teacher will tell you the same thing.
As a matter of interest, and because i know diddly about canadian news sources is the 'global news' from Canada respectable at all or some form of crackpot source akin to their American breitbart kin?
When you threaten to take protesters kids away what did they expect? people have their limits
They were very peaceful to begin for weeks
but everyone has their limits
F Trudeau keep this up and there really will be violence
Of course the liberal media support doxing, revealing everyone who sent donations and even cancelling those that did (we've already seen a politician and radio host fired)
Some protests are fine, unless they don't match your ideology or agenda..
I think their protests are justified and shared with many around the world who want an end to these mandates.
Looking back at 2020, and you saw how we tolerated extreme violence during BLM protests.. Trump mearly had to mention national guard coming in (which Democrats support now) would make him a dictator and Hitler.
They were very peaceful to begin for weeks
but everyone has their limits
F Trudeau keep this up and there really will be violence
Of course the liberal media support doxing, revealing everyone who sent donations and even cancelling those that did (we've already seen a politician and radio host fired)
Some protests are fine, unless they don't match your ideology or agenda..
I think their protests are justified and shared with many around the world who want an end to these mandates.
Looking back at 2020, and you saw how we tolerated extreme violence during BLM protests.. Trump mearly had to mention national guard coming in (which Democrats support now) would make him a dictator and Hitler.
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