Taking Further Maths AS in a gap year for an Economics degree worth it

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Currently studying Physics, Economics and Maths (A*A*A respectively) and got an A in EPQ, A in Computer Science AS, and, 5 9s 6 8s at GCSE. Been rejected by LSE, Warwick, Durham and St Andrews, still waiting on Bath.Looking at the rejections the reason they give is that the competition is extremely competitive. Thus I think the reason for my rejections is most likely due to not having Further Maths. If I achieve my predicted grades I will probably reapply and take Further Maths AS in my gap year. Although, I'm wondering how much of an impact it could actually make on my application especially at an AS level. Since it's at an AS level I'm not too sure if unis would care or regard it as a substitute of an achieved AS grade. Anyone have any similar experiences or any advice?
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If you have the time i would say do the full A-level. It would make you're application far more competitive.
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If you going to take the whole year out, I would take the whole a level instead of just the AS. It just depends on what subject you want to do tbh.
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Would highly recommend you take the full A-Level. If you are finding it too difficult, you could always just book yourself in for the AS exam, that's the beauty with A-Levels.

If you are going to learn it yourself, you need a tutor or someone who can check your work and provide you a UCAS reference, specifically a predicted grade. This was such a headache for me because I went through something similar. If you can sort this out, and manage your time and schedule well, why not?

Just make sure you are 100% committed
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Sounds like a good idea taking the full A Level. I guess my only questions to that are whether it is feasible to learn the whole course within 8-9 months and which exam board to take.
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Sounds like a good idea taking the full A Level. I guess my only questions to that are whether it is feasible to learn the whole course within 8-9 months and which exam board to take.
Which exam board did you take for your regular Maths? It makes the most sense to carry that on because those specifications are specifically designed to be co-taught. But I would recommend Pearson Edexcel for many reasons, but mainly because there's a lot of support and resources online for help
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Sounds like a good idea taking the full A Level. I guess my only questions to that are whether it is feasible to learn the whole course within 8-9 months and which exam board to take.
Definitely possible to do it in one year, a lot of colleges run it like this( doing maths yr1 and fm yr2) and you'll only have to focus on one subject. For exam boards i can only speak from personal experience as i've only experienced edexcel but i do recommend it. The textbooks are well written ( for core and mechanics, cant talk about the other modules) and there are a ton of resources online for you to use
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Which exam board did you take for your regular Maths? It makes the most sense to carry that on because those specifications are specifically designed to be co-taught. But I would recommend Pearson Edexcel for many reasons, but mainly because there's a lot of support and resources online for help
Currently I'm doing OCR MEI so I believe I would have to do both mechanics and stats. I've researched into Edexcel and from my understanding I think you can choose the components you want to do? When I was thinking about studying for the AS, I decided on taking Further Pure Maths 1 or 2.
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Currently I'm doing OCR MEI so I believe I would have to do both mechanics and stats. I've researched into Edexcel and from my understanding I think you can choose the components you want to do? When I was thinking about studying for the AS, I decided on taking Further Pure Maths 1 or 2.
You have to take two modules btw, either two from the 1 list or a combined 1 and 2
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Currently I'm doing OCR MEI so I believe I would have to do both mechanics and stats. I've researched into Edexcel and from my understanding I think you can choose the components you want to do? When I was thinking about studying for the AS, I decided on taking Further Pure Maths 1 or 2.
Yeah, for Edexcel you can choose your components I believe you need to do Core Pure but there's also Further Stats, Decision Making, Further Mechanics and Further Pure to choose from
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So an example component combination of Edexcel FM could be Core 1, Core 2, Further Pure 1, and, Further Mechanics 2?
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So an example component combination of Edexcel FM could be Core 1, Core 2, Further Pure 1, and, Further Mechanics 2?
According to the spec, for the optional module(s), you can either take any two from Option 1 or matching modules from both Option 1 and Option 2.

So the above combo wouldn't work
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You cant take that unfortunately, to take a 2 module you need to take its respective 1 module. Alongside Core 1 & 2 obviously. The exams for the 2 modules are all on the same day/time so it's not possible at all. I would say that if you like mechanics then take a look at M1, chapter 5 is the only challenging chapter in it imo.
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Currently studying Physics, Economics and Maths (A*A*A respectively) and got an A in EPQ, A in Computer Science AS, and, 5 9s 6 8s at GCSE. Been rejected by LSE, Warwick, Durham and St Andrews, still waiting on Bath.Looking at the rejections the reason they give is that the competition is extremely competitive. Thus I think the reason for my rejections is most likely due to not having Further Maths. If I achieve my predicted grades I will probably reapply and take Further Maths AS in my gap year. Although, I'm wondering how much of an impact it could actually make on my application especially at an AS level. Since it's at an AS level I'm not too sure if unis would care or regard it as a substitute of an achieved AS grade. Anyone have any similar experiences or any advice?
The big issue that you have to decide is whether you wish to risk retaking a year out and possibly getting rejected again or going this year to somewhere hopefully Bath. Most universities dont require Further Maths and you could apply to get into somewhere this year through extra. Birmingham, Cardiff, Lancaster, Liverpool, Loughborough, Newcastle, Nottingham, Queen Mary, Reading, Royal Holloway, Sheffield, Southampton and York are all showing vacancies. You would need to check with the university to ensure this is correct but you could apply to these
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According to the spec, for the optional module(s), you can either take any two from Option 1 or matching modules from both Option 1 and Option 2.

So the above combo wouldn't work
So Core 1, Core 2, Futher Pure Maths 1, and Further Pure Maths 2 or Core 1, Core 2, Futher Pure Maths 1, and Further Mechanics 1 would work?
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The big issue that you have to decide is whether you wish to risk retaking a year out and possibly getting rejected again or going this year to somewhere hopefully Bath. Most universities dont require Further Maths and you could apply to get into somewhere this year through extra. Birmingham, Cardiff, Lancaster, Liverpool, Loughborough, Newcastle, Nottingham, Queen Mary, Reading, Royal Holloway, Sheffield, Southampton and York are all showing vacancies. You would need to check with the university to ensure this is correct but you could apply to these
Thanks for bringing up UCAS Extra as I forgot you could apply to more unis, although at the moment I am leaning more towards reapplying. Unlike this year I would definitely apply to a safety choice next year being York. I'm not sure how likely it is for York to reject me with achieved grades. Would the fact that I'm reapplying be the potential risk?
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Thanks for bringing up UCAS Extra as I forgot you could apply to more unis, although at the moment I am leaning more towards reapplying. Unlike this year I would definitely apply to a safety choice next year being York. I'm not sure how likely it is for York to reject me with achieved grades. Would the fact that I'm reapplying be the potential risk?
I reapplied this year and in my experience if you meet the grades they will give you an offer for the most part. Obviously it depends on the uni but 4/5 of my unis gave me offers straight away and my achieved grades are a lot worse than yours.
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Thanks for bringing up UCAS Extra as I forgot you could apply to more unis, although at the moment I am leaning more towards reapplying. Unlike this year I would definitely apply to a safety choice next year being York. I'm not sure how likely it is for York to reject me with achieved grades. Would the fact that I'm reapplying be the potential risk?
I really dont think you will have a problem in most places. The universities you have been rejected from are super competitive for Econ and probably the lack of FM plus the A in Maths instead of A* could have been your problem and might be next year. Obviously you are very disappointed but you will certainly get into a good university through extra which I believe is far more sensible than spending a further year and reapplying
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I reapplied this year and in my experience if you meet the grades they will give you an offer for the most part. Obviously it depends on the uni but 4/5 of my unis gave me offers straight away and my achieved grades are a lot worse than yours.
Did u change your ps during that time? Also what unis did you recieve offers from?
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So Core 1, Core 2, Futher Pure Maths 1, and Further Pure Maths 2 or Core 1, Core 2, Futher Pure Maths 1, and Further Mechanics 1 would work?
Yes thats fine
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