Is Wrexham Glyndwr's online MSc in Computer Science a scam?

I believe I am late to the party but I will still leave a review for other people landing on this post. I started in September 2020 so very close to completion.
The university and the program are not a scam in the real meaning of the word but their terrible approach to this program makes you feel like it. It is a complete waste of money. Teachers and assistants are extremely unqualified for a high-level degree. The work and effort you put in to complete the assignments will be rewarded with plenty of frustration on your side as the assistants don't give a rat's ass about grading it. On the web development assignment, I received a pretty low grade with some completely inaccurate comments that "I did not use DB interrogation at all in my website(among other cockamamie comments)" and basically my whole project was based on database interrogations. After challenging that I got almost 20% up mark.
Also almost always the assistant feedback is "you did that great, very good on that" and then you end up with a very low mark. Once I questioned one of them that based on the feedback provided I was expecting a 100% mark but I got instead 60%. The reply was that the paper was very good but not enough to reach 100%. I have never got an explanation on any assignments on what needs to be done to improve my grades. On DB, we had 2 assignments, one for the DB design and one for the script. These are testing the student's completely different skills. I was once marked for the design of the database and unfortunately, I scored very low. Any tiny feedback completely refused on what I did wrong on the design. They should be there to help us learn stuff not to play the police officer role. It was like I was dealing with a little boy's tantrum. How can you do your Script right if you made mistakes in the design of the tables? Once again these were completely different assignments and you can't do the script right if you don't have the tables designed correctly. I was basically marked twice on the DB design because the assistant completely refused to provide any feedback.
You really feel, with some exceptions (that, unfortunately, left the Uni in the meantime) that they are fully against you, trying to demonstrate to you that you are rubbish rather than helping you learn and progress. Everything feels very "money focused" and they are not there to help you.
Also, all their course materials are absolutely outdated. When technology evaluates at such a fast pace, it is revolting to have to study from knowledge bases that date best case scenario from 2019. In my latest module, I was learning about virtual machines and networks and I noticed at some point that they were making some futuristic assumptions about the 5G networks and how in the very far future the experts are estimating that to be absolutely amazing. That definitely got my attention and when I checked the book cover I noticed the book we are learning to become experts in new technologies is from 2013. Yes, 2013. It's 2023 almost. Think about how much things have changed since 2013.
It is a complete waste of money. You can choose to spend your money somewhere else where the treatment received will match your expectations. I regret so much for starting this program. It is revolting how come nobody(government body or regulator) is checking their practices.

Hi guys,

Glad to have read these posts in the forum before I decide to apply to any uni. I am also interested in pursuing a master in Data Science/Analytics or CS and unfortunately, I don't have other option apart from studying online. I have looked in all (I want to believe) the comments about the unis which offer online programs and I really appreciate the feedback about avoiding York(!), Wrexham Glyndwr & Keele.

I was wondering if anyone has any positive experience from any other online program at all?
I quite like Bath's, Stirling's (I completed a Machine Learning course there and thoroughly enjoyed it) and UoL's however, the first two offer only part- time, two year programs and the latter its quite expensive. I feel as I will end up with Sunderland's program but I am afraid it might be the same disaster as York or Wrexham.

From what I've heard, UoL's course is a quality course. You get what you pay for. UoL is expensive because it's not an online scam. That's how much real tuition actually costs, so the reality is that you need to pay that to get a decent education that isn't just a scam that will take your money.
Don't forget that the reputation of the university matters to employers. Employers are impressed by UoL, but they'll laugh at Wrexham if you write that on your CV. Unfortunately, good universities are not cheap.

It’s completely untrue. The program is quite hard as it’s fully online. That’s why lot of students quit. I’m still on it and it’s helped me a lot in my interviews.

I am enrolled on the Msc Computer Science at Glyndwr currently, I don't agree that it's automated or that people are given the same marks regardless but I do agree that the course itself is terrible.

The tutors are rarely around and don't engage with students, the feedback on an assignment you spent hours writing is around one usually unclear sentence, two if you're lucky and the ambiguous assessment briefs don't help either. I have had work where I recieved a low mark in one section with no feedback as to why to help me improve. It does feel overall that the tutors don't really care about the students and we are just there to get them their £500 per module. The first module was really good and the tutor was very engaging, great feedback and replied to questions that I had, but the quality has been far below that ever since.

I was torn between York and Glyndwyr and went for Glyndwr based on the thread bashing York on here, but I wish I had gone for it just for the name as the course would have been crap either way. I'll finish the course as I just need the Masters as a tick box but I would not recommend anyone enroll with them.

It’s completely untrue. The program is quite hard as it’s fully online. That’s why lot of students quit. I’m still on it and it’s helped me a lot in my interviews.

I can believe that as the UoL is from the really good unis in the UK, however, I am planning on investing savings and £14000 is far too much. It looks as I will end up between Stirling and Sunderland.

P.S: I am wondering if anyone knows anything about Northeaster's Uni of London here https://www.nulondon.ac.uk/degrees/postgraduate/ai_datascience/ Teeside's here https://www.tees.ac.uk/postgraduate_courses/computing_&_cyber_security/msc_data_science.cfm or Hertfordshire here https://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate-masters/msc-data-science-and-analytics. Haven't read any posts about any of them

Did you get the degree ?I hope you will reply.

Hi, yes I finished earlier this year.

Overall the course is pretty terrible. I had multiple occasions where I had to chase the Uni for feedback from my dissertation supervisor and the lack of feedback/engagement that I mentioned previously continued for the duration of the course. I already work in a senior position so I could get by without much help but I would stay well away unless you just need the piece of paper saying you have a degree, and even then I would explore other options.

From what I've heard, UoL's course is a quality course. You get what you pay for. UoL is expensive because it's not an online scam. That's how much real tuition actually costs, so the reality is that you need to pay that to get a decent education that isn't just a scam that will take your money.
Don't forget that the reputation of the university matters to employers. Employers are impressed by UoL, but they'll laugh at Wrexham if you write that on your CV. Unfortunately, good universities are not cheap.

I have been looking for reviews on UoL but have not seen any...

I generally find with education, if people are unhappy, they'll write negative reviews but if they're satisfied, they won't bother leaving reviews because people just expect good quality for the high price we pay for education. University education is supposed to be the gold standard, hence why we pay hundreds for it, so we expect quality. No positive reviews for UoL is not a bad thing, so long as there aren't negative reviews. Look up Wrexham's computer science programme and you'll see endless negative reviews about what a waste of money it is, but I haven't seen anything like that for UoL.

Hi Earl, thank you for this insight. I have got an MSc in Mathematics from University of York. and haven't got anything out of it rather than internship in a support role that does not pay well.... I am just kind of not sure my next step, whether to go for Computer science or DS

An MSc in Mathematics is a really good qualification. You just need more work experience to get a better paid job. If you insist on further study, I'd be doing a PhD in Maths, not another masters. If it were me, I'd do a PhD in Maths and aim to work for an investment bank.
Get out there and network more as contacts are the key to find better jobs.

Everyone keep saying maths is a good qualification... I came to Uk for an MSc in Mathematics thinking it would have close applications to real word, but it was just solving equations and proofs.... Investment banking have nothing to do with these equations ?