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Economics - oxford or cambridge?

Im in year 12 and we're getting hassled at school right now whether we want to apply to oxbridge. Ultimately, i'd want to stud Economics / Economics and Management at Oxbridge
at GCSE i got 5A*s, 5As and a C (IT, everyone seemed to have got a terrible mark)
I hope these are good enough for oxbridge.

Im taking 5 As levels: Maths, Economics, Physics, Chemistry and Extended Project.

I hope to get at least 3As and a B at A2, but im not entirely sure whether i will get high A's

I've heard that one of the two dont always take the actual marks into account, but only the grade. I've also heard that Further Maths is really required by one of the two.

Any Comments would be greatly appreciated, and i apologise if i posted this in the wrong place

~zeb

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Reply 1

cambridge asks to know your marks, oxford only sees the grades. However cambridge is better for economics by a long way.

Reply 2

Cambridge take marks.

Cambridge is more prestigious for econ, the course more mathematical (although I don't really know anything about the Oxford course - this is second hand knowledge).

Your GCSEs are good enough.

Reply 3

Wow, you guys are quick!

i just checked the cambridge website, and it pretty much said that most colleges prefer further maths, while just a couple like economics

would i have any chance getting in without further maths?

Reply 4

yeah but further maths would put you in a much stronger position

Reply 5

I didnt take further maths as i think i just wouldn't be able to cope.

does further maths make a difference for Oxford, or should i really not consider taking Economics there as its not the best course?

I've looked at LSE, but it seems ridiculously difficult to get in - over 20 applications per place.

Reply 6

You should bear in mind that Oxford do not offer straight economics, but economics and management.

Reply 7

Further maths is very very important.

Reply 8

you could have dropped your extended project thing and maybe take up further maths. just something to think about.

Reply 9

fraternité
Further maths is very very important.


Not so much if you're applying to Oxford, I think. I guy I know got an offer for AAA, and he was doing four subjects, further maths included. He asked them if he could drop it and they said yes, so it wasn't part of his offer.

Reply 10

zeb191
I didnt take further maths as i think i just wouldn't be able to cope.

does further maths make a difference for Oxford, or should i really not consider taking Economics there as its not the best course?

I've looked at LSE, but it seems ridiculously difficult to get in - over 20 applications per place.


further maths isnt essential but definately worth taking. The oxford course would probably prefer it also but i expect would be less strict on it. As for it not being the best course, it is still extremely good, just not as good as cambridge.

lse is i agree really difficult to get into. that's why i didnt go for it.

Reply 11

Drop the extended project and take further maths if you can; your GCSE's are sufficient. Make sure you ace for AS exams (aim for a 95% average) if you want a good chance at Cambridge.

Reply 12

kklol
cambridge asks to know your marks, oxford only sees the grades. However cambridge is better for economics by a long way.


Cambridge is better for everything TBF:yep:

Reply 13

bombproof_girl
Cambridge is better for everything TBF:yep:


except for fit birds.

when i was at oxford on the open day the number of posh little fitties was astounding. can't wait to get in and start destroying posh muff

Reply 14

It's too late to go for further maths now, and even if i could i don't think i'd be able to cope with it.
I did get an A* at GCSE but i've experienced that AS is quite a step up so far from that.

Also, I've heard extended project is viewed well by top Unis as it demonstrates the ability to work independently, in an area of your choice.

Atm i've gone with an economics question - "How will the banking crisis and credit crunch affect first time house buyers?"

Is that a bad question, and anyone got any ideas? ^^ (or is that against the rules)

i know its irrelevant to the thread topic, but i don't really want to start another thread when i got all you economists here :biggrin:

Reply 15

I chose Cambridge for the following reasons:
1) It does straight economics, which is where I am applying for elsewhere (other university admissions tutors may not like your personal statement if it contains too much on the management side, whereas Oxford may not like it if you focus too heavily on the economics but not on the management)
2) The course is more mathematical
3) The course provides a better foundation if you want to study for a postgraduate qualification in Economics
4) Cambridge ask for UMS marks
5) I just preferred Cambridge as a city to Oxford

They are both very difficult courses to get into, and both offer excellent job prospects. I think you just need to ask yourself over the next few months - "Am I really interested in the Management aspect, or would I prefer a more specialised Economics degree?"

Reply 16

kklol
except for fit birds.

when i was at oxford on the open day the number of posh little fitties was astounding. can't wait to get in and start destroying posh muff

If you insist...I'm not a ladies lady to be fair

Reply 17

I, like you, prefer cambridge city.
I have cousins who went to both Oxford and Cambridge, and so have spent time with them over holidays quite a few times and have always preferred Cambridge as a whole.

Even if i did prefer to go to Cambridge, I would have to be realistic, and maybe I'd have a much higher chance of applying to Oxford.

My dad is in IT Management, and i have a cousin (who went to Oxford and studied chemistry who is now in Corporate Finance for Lazards as his first job.)

I wouldn't mind taking management, and a slightly worse course etc than not get in at all. Also it seems that Cambridge look at the marks you got while Oxford doesn't which is another thing i think.

I tried to look at applications, and how many of those were accepted. It was available on the Cambridge website, but i couldn't find it on the Oxford one.

Thanks for all the replies guys, please keep em coming :smile:

Reply 18

I'm applying for PPE at Oxford, to add my 2 cents I am doing Maths Physics Biology and History and I didn't take further maths because although I can do maths I don't love it! I love economics but I like the sides that look at the effects and not the straight maths of it. If your looking to do straight economics and didn't take further maths that should be fine but here is your problem, you said you didn't think you could cope with further maths... trust me do not go for very maths orientated uni's such as Cambridge LSE and UCL, they require you to be a very capable mathematician. I would recommend Oxford as its less about maths but I would also strongly suggest looking at all the variations of economics! There are so many at great universities as long as they suit each other and you feel you can write a suitable personal statement that covers them, I had an issue with philosophy in mine :smile:.

In short you could take on the further maths buckle down and you may do better than you thought, look for economics away from the "maths" universities, or finally look into economics combinations because with your academics you can apply confidently to Oxbridge. For combinations they rarely require further maths but they may not suit you as much as straight econ. Hope I have been of help!

Reply 19

Thanks for that dewinte, it did help as not many people seemed to know too much about Oxford economics.

I don't mind maths, but i don't find it great, while i really find economics interesting and always look forward to lessons. I'm essentially taking maths so i can take economics in HE. Does anyone know if Unis like Durham or Warwick are very maths related?

If i did go for a more maths orientated course, i think i could cope (i got 94% overall in GCSE) but i don't think id enjoy it as much.

Thanks again

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