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Can Cambridge withdraw offers?

Can Cambridge withdraw a conditional offer if you notified them of a mistake on the UCAS form, [after you had that offer?]

By mistake I mean that you wrote in the UCAS application that you got 10A*s, but that was a mistake and you actually got 9A*s and 1 A, but you didnt realise that until you had got back your certificates.

Also can they withdraw an offer, say if you wanted to dop a subject [like History AS] when the offer was made out for AAA, and you were already doing 4 A levels already, and didnt want to carry on with a 5th AS level, and say if the offer was for something like Natural Sciences.

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Reply 1

As far as I know, ANY alteration to your original application HAS to be notified to them. They do have the option, therefore of changing your offer. I would suggest you talk to your Head of Sixth Form about this before you contact them or even ask him/her to do it for you.
With the changing nmber of A levels - again, if it is a change to your original stated A2 levels on your application form, then you HAVE to notify them. I know that the feedback letters to two of our (successful) Cam candidates this year stated clearly that the offer was for AAA,BUT that they expected them to carry on with the subjects on their form throughout Year 13 and to take the exams in them. Again I would talk to your HoSixth about this - they might have had feedback (as our HoSixth did) and might be able to advise you properly.

Reply 2

Springhill
By mistake I mean that you wrote in the UCAS application that you got 10A*s, but that was a mistake and you actually got 9A*s and 1 A, but you didnt realise that until you had got back your certificates.

Yes.

Springhill
Also can they withdraw an offer, say if you wanted to dop a subject [like History AS] when the offer was made out for AAA, and you were already doing 4 A levels already, and didnt want to carry on with a 5th AS level, and say if the offer was for something like Natural Sciences.

If the official offer doesn't specify it then you don't need to continue it because you can make your offer without it.

A.

Reply 3

Springhill
Can Cambridge withdraw a conditional offer if you notified them of a mistake on the UCAS form, [after you had that offer?]

By mistake I mean that you wrote in the UCAS application that you got 10A*s, but that was a mistake and you actually got 9A*s and 1 A, but you didnt realise that until you had got back your certificates.


Yes, I believe they can withdraw offers, because the offer was partly based on your grades. You should let them know about the mistake immediately..

Springhill
Also can they withdraw an offer, say if you wanted to dop a subject [like History AS] when the offer was made out for AAA, and you were already doing 4 A levels already, and didnt want to carry on with a 5th AS level, and say if the offer was for something like Natural Sciences.


I don't know... why not ring up the admissions tutor and ask? If the offer doesn't include it I don't see why it should.. But asking is the safest bet in my opinion.

Reply 4

I imagine it's the same for Ox...

I've written to the Tutor for Admissions at Exeter, and said that although I said I was going to sit 4 Adv Highers, I'm only planning to sit the exam for 3, (although I'll still go to history class just out of personal interest) and do they have a problem with that. Obviously I can still meet the prerequisites of the offer, so I imagine this is just a formality, but UCAS guidelines insist I inform the uni whose offer I intend to accept. Hope this isnt a problem, blah blah blah...

Havent got a reply yet. Keep your letter hypothetical so they can't withdraw their offer on the basis of that alone (although i dont imagine they're total w*nks like that), but safety first!

Reply 5

Did you put the correct info down on the CAF!? If you didnt do it right there as well, you need to inform them, because you must present copies of your GCSE certificates before you matriculate. If it's right on the CAF it wont be so important, but you should inform them anyway (pointing out it was right on the CAF....so if they didnt notice it's their fault as well!)

Reply 6

WhatFreshHell?
(although I'll still go to history class just out of personal interest)

Really? Or are you just BS-ing? Are you going to do your dissertation too? :rolleyes: Our AH History class has now finished the course, barr that. I'm doing 4 AH too, but Cam insists I sit English as well as my AAA offer - because if I only sat Bio, Chem and Physics I'd clearly be a thickie :rolleyes:

Reply 7

if you're gonna change anything on your form, you should let admissions know by way of courtesy. they won't change your offer in any way, since their decision to take you will be based on more than any one factor, but at the end of the day they gave you an offer on the basis of what you told them. so if any of that changes, then there's no point in hiding it from them.

Reply 8

you can drop it , or if you really want to play it by the book just miss all your lessons and fail your exams, as long as you can get the 3 a's you're fine. Hm as for the Gcse grades unless theyre directly related to your course i doubt they will mind the slight alteration

Reply 9

Think of the pride....


*sonorous chords*

Reply 10

how about with gap years? this has been bugging me for a little but my gap year plans have changed slightly and some things havent turned out to be as good as my personal statement said (however they have been replaced with other things - not going to be sitting at home watching simpsons reruns the *whole* time) but for instance I have scrapped some of my travel (for instance where im going, for how long an what im doing have all changed :biggrin:) or some of the academic stuff (not listed anywhere else) including how much open uni maths i was going to do has been reduced so i can do more green party stuff in the run up to the elections. stuff i should inform them about (with an uncondtiional offer) or just typical changes to gap years that they wont mind?

Reply 11

if it was just stuff you siad you might do and it's not part of your offer, surely there is no problem. They're not going to ask to inspect your passport.:wink:

Reply 12

If you want to be really picky here then you have to consider the legal obligations faced by you and by Cambridge. A conditional offer is a legal offer and can be terminated in one of six ways:

1. By effective acceptance of the offer - applies to you

2. By rejecting the offer - applies to you

3. By revocation by the offeror prior to acceptance - does not apply to you as you are in the course of performing the offer's terms. As long as you do not vary the terms of the offer, the offer will remain open until any stated time expiration occurs.

4. By lapse of time - an offer ceases to be legally binding when an express length of time expires, or when a reasonable length of time expires. Basically you have until some point later in the year to accept the offer - April/May probably, unless Cambridge have stated otherwise. (I believe that Colleges ask you to indicate whether you will be accepting the offer - but this isn't binding and you don't have to accept any offers until you have received replies from ALL the universities to which you have applied).

5. By failure to fulfill a condition - this is the AAA offer, and unless you fulfill these requirements then the offer can be treated as repudiated (terminated) by Cambridge as you are in breach of its terms. If, therefore, they have stated 'AAA at A level in X, Y, and Z, and completion of your A level in W...' then you must do EVERYTHING stated to ensure your place. However, if they have said 'You are expected to complete all A levels not included in your conditional offer' then this is a wish, but not an obligation. However, I expect that somewhere on Cambridge/UCAS paperwork it states that conditional offers are made on the basis of all written and oral evidence given - and if you were found to have altered any exam results etc, then they would probably be entitled to refuse to accept you, but this is unlikely.

- The above point depends on so many things - at what point they find out your grades are incorrect, the extent of the misrepresentation (i.e. if you say you got an A and got a B then this is not likely to have much affect on your application should you achieve AAA. However, in the unfortunate circumstance that you get AAB and they know your grades were wrongly reported, they may look at other candidates more favourably in the Summer Pool) and loads of other aspects.

Oh and what you said about not realising the mistake until you got your certificates - sounds like a load of b*ll*cks to me as most people applying now have had their GCSE certificates for ages, certainly way before the Oxbridge deadline. Whether it is true or not, it doesn't sound very convincing and there is probably some legal loophole where they could revoke the offer, but it's pretty unlikely. The effect(s) of the mistake on the outcome of your application are negligible.


6. By death - hopefully this won't happen!

Overall, you must fulfill ALL of the terms of your offer in order to ensure a place. What would help is if you posted the exact wording of your offer and whether or not the mistake about grades is true or just something you were wondering. In any event, I would say the best thing is to let Cambridge know of any details like this ASAP, because if you are one of the unlucky people whose grades are checked and verified by UCAS then you could find yourself disappointed. Hope that helps. x

Reply 13

hehe spot the lawyer...

Reply 14

My letter says that I'm expected to take the exams listed in section 7B of my UCAS form...so I assume you just have to take the exams you've said you would, and any change would need to be cleared by them.

Otherwise couldn't you just claim to be doing 10 A Levels to impress them?

Reply 15

Yes, they have the right to withdraw their offer. I doubt they would tho...

Reply 16

what subject is it? English/ maths etc could be more significant than textiles.

Reply 17

Springhill

Also can they withdraw an offer, say if you wanted to dop a subject [like History AS] when the offer was made out for AAA, and you were already doing 4 A levels already, and didnt want to carry on with a 5th AS level, and say if the offer was for something like Natural Sciences.

A friend of mine was doing Maths, Further Maths (in one lesson block) and Physics and Chemisty at A level. When he got an AAA offer (maths, Maths, Physics), he persuaded the school to let him drop Chemisty straight away. If it doesn't affect the application, its not a problem for anyone.

Amusingly, as he already had enough marks in 10 maths modules to get his A in Maths already, and had chosen a different 11th module to the rest of our further maths set, he was allowed to study that out of class on his own... So by the last half of the year he was only in lessons for 1/4 of the school week. :biggrin:

Reply 18

Mib
My letter says that I'm expected to take the exams listed in section 7B of my UCAS form...so I assume you just have to take the exams you've said you would, and any change would need to be cleared by them.

Otherwise couldn't you just claim to be doing 10 A Levels to impress them?



Mine says the same. So i still have to take my fourth subject but it doesnt matter what i get

Reply 19

Does it count for stuff you've written about on your personal statement? I've got an offer from Cambridge for AAA (maths, phy and bio) for phy nat sci. On my actual ucas form + CAF in 'eams being taken' I only wrote my actual A level subjects but on my personal statement I wrote i was probably doing Advanced Extension and Olympiads in Phy and Bio. My letter said that the offer is 'conditional on me taking the examinations as detailed on my UCAS form'. Do i actually have to take all the exams mentioned on my personal statement?

Also, im doing Futher Maths but it didnt emntion it in my offer.