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    (Original post by triwka)
    Got this info from St.Georges - I guess it would be similar for all Clinical Engineers and perhaps Medical Physics people as well:

    "You will have a place booked on a one-day university induction on Friday 23rd September and then a two day induction at St. George’s Hospital on 26th – 27th September. Lectures start at Kings on Wednesday 28th September. Until Christmas, you will be mostly based at KCL with a couple of short placements back at the hospitals. From then on, the training is mostly based at Queen Mary’s and St. George’s Hospitals with further short blocks in education over the three years of your training."

    Oh, and also for those who already have the MSc:

    "It is not clear at the moment what, if any modules already undertaken on other masters courses will be counted towards the MSc at KCL but we are currently seeking more details and will let you know if/when we have any more information."
    Thanks for sharing that. I think the physicists are different. I've been told that we get a four week block at the beginning and then will only be going to the university occasionally (if anyone's heard differently please let me know). I think I can guess the answer, but I don't suppose they've given information on travel and accommodation expenses?
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    (Original post by tmx55)
    Thanks for sharing that. I think the physicists are different. I've been told that we get a four week block at the beginning and then will only be going to the university occasionally (if anyone's heard differently please let me know). I think I can guess the answer, but I don't suppose they've given information on travel and accommodation expenses?
    Oh, okay - I thought they might be similar as both go to KCL (although Med Phys have two other unis as well, so it might be dependent on the university?)
    Haven't asked about expenses as I'm based in London, but I remember from the open days that even last year expenses were not covered, so doubt it would change this year But it doesn't hurt to try!
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    (Original post by triwka)
    Oh, okay - I thought they might be similar as both go to KCL (although Med Phys have two other unis as well, so it might be dependent on the university?)
    Haven't asked about expenses as I'm based in London, but I remember from the open days that even last year expenses were not covered, so doubt it would change this year But it doesn't hurt to try!
    Ah, but last year people weren't expected to travel 2.5 hours to the university providing the masters... But as someone said earlier, they're doing it to cut their costs so you might be right.
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    Can one get into the Scientist training programme with a degree in Chemistry?
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    Hi,

    Firstly congratulations to all that have been offered a place, I have been following this thread with much anticipation to find out dates and locations of the courses and what not. My partner of five years has accepted a place on the cardiology aspect of the MSc and all he has been told as a start date is the first week of september so I'm a little unsure as to whether he'll do a block at uni first like some people are suggesting or if he'll go one day a week etc. He hasn't been told which university has got the MSc. I'm desperate to find out more information about it as it is leaving me a bit in limbo concerning whther I am too move with him and should I be applying for jobs or should I stay where I currently am and only see him on weekends :confused: Does anyone have any info on this, haven't seen any cardiologists on the thread but someone may have heard something through the grapevine. Any help would be much appreciated
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    (Original post by RhianJordan)
    Hi,

    Firstly congratulations to all that have been offered a place, I have been following this thread with much anticipation to find out dates and locations of the courses and what not. My partner of five years has accepted a place on the cardiology aspect of the MSc and all he has been told as a start date is the first week of september so I'm a little unsure as to whether he'll do a block at uni first like some people are suggesting or if he'll go one day a week etc. He hasn't been told which university has got the MSc. I'm desperate to find out more information about it as it is leaving me a bit in limbo concerning whther I am too move with him and should I be applying for jobs or should I stay where I currently am and only see him on weekends :confused: Does anyone have any info on this, haven't seen any cardiologists on the thread but someone may have heard something through the grapevine. Any help would be much appreciated
    I'd suggest him getting in touch with the hospital/trust he's based at. They will know which university it will be at. But the dates might not be settled on yet. Every discipline must have a minimum 1 month period at uni to start with. But exactly when and how the rest of it is done will be dependant on what the university wants...and even then you probably won't get firm dates for quite some time on the yr 2 and 3 plans, just the rough months/layout.

    Its a pain that they're taking so long to give us a final plan.
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    (Original post by tmx55)
    Thanks for sharing that. I think the physicists are different. I've been told that we get a four week block at the beginning and then will only be going to the university occasionally (if anyone's heard differently please let me know). I think I can guess the answer, but I don't suppose they've given information on travel and accommodation expenses?
    its a minimum of a 4 week introductory block.
    we've then got an extra module or 2 following on frm that at KCL until xmas (for engineers)

    i got told by my trust that theres no funds available for travel or accomodation anymore. They purely get funding for our pay, uni and training costs. Which sucks. 3 months accomodation in london or commuting = extortionate
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    This whole situation is getting ridiculous! With little over 6 weeks until I've been told to start, and they still haven't sorted out which university the MSc course will be at. I'm loosing faith in this whole process......
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    (Original post by louisecc)
    its a minimum of a 4 week introductory block.
    we've then got an extra module or 2 following on frm that at KCL until xmas (for engineers)

    i got told by my trust that theres no funds available for travel or accomodation anymore. They purely get funding for our pay, uni and training costs. Which sucks. 3 months accomodation in london or commuting = extortionate
    Louisecc - do you mind me asking which hospital/trust has confirmed thats there's no funds for travel or accommodation costs?

    I'll be doing Biochem in London and we'll be going to manchester for 7 weeks for our uni modules in Sept, we're still waiting to hear if they'll give us anything towards expenses for this so still keeping my fingers crossed at the moment!!
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    (Original post by louisecc)
    its a minimum of a 4 week introductory block.
    we've then got an extra module or 2 following on frm that at KCL until xmas (for engineers)

    i got told by my trust that theres no funds available for travel or accomodation anymore. They purely get funding for our pay, uni and training costs. Which sucks. 3 months accomodation in london or commuting = extortionate
    I would say that the cost associated with attending our training falls under 'training costs', just as it would in any other professional environment. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I don't really think it's fair to expect a new employee to pay a fortune to attend a course (which is part of their job) that has been located miles from the location of the job. Frustrating times!
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    (Original post by jh1984)
    Louisecc - do you mind me asking which hospital/trust has confirmed thats there's no funds for travel or accommodation costs?

    I'll be doing Biochem in London and we'll be going to manchester for 7 weeks for our uni modules in Sept, we're still waiting to hear if they'll give us anything towards expenses for this so still keeping my fingers crossed at the moment!!
    I'll be based in Hull, doing the Msc in London. But tbh the trusts are still getting suprises thrown at them, so it might change
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    Hey guys. Ive just graduated with a First in Molecular Biology + Genetics and really like the look of this training program. Im planning on applying next year but from reading this thread it seems a bit disorganised. If theres anyone here who has got any of the positions in Genetics, would you mind telling me what its like? Is there information on where exactly the Msc will be based. And what qualifications + experience did you have to get accepted?
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    (Original post by J0kerman2)
    Hey guys. Ive just graduated with a First in Molecular Biology + Genetics and really like the look of this training program. Im planning on applying next year but from reading this thread it seems a bit disorganised. If theres anyone here who has got any of the positions in Genetics, would you mind telling me what its like? Is there information on where exactly the Msc will be based. And what qualifications + experience did you have to get accepted?
    I'm not doing Genetics, but I think it's fair to say that noone would be able to tell you what the actual scheme is like as it's only starting in September. Maybe closer to December/January time, when people spent some time at their first placements, you would get some informed opinions.
    It is true that the recruitment process was a bit disorganised, but it's a first year they are running the new scheme, so I hope they'll learn from their mistakes for the next time.
    And regarding your question about qualifications - it's a graduate scheme, so you need an upper second or first class degree in a relevant subject (which you already have). On top of that any experience that would help to show how you match the person spec is beneficial - if you read this thread you'll notice that some people with years of relevant experience didn't even make it through to the interviews, while graduates with no relevant experience managed to secure a job offer. So it's all about showing them that you match their requirements and understand the nature of the job.
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    Heya,
    I heard from my hospital that I am going to Nottingham for Haematology, and that I will be going for a week at the beginning (3rd week in October). They chose Nottingham over Manchester, because they didn't want me to have to go up there for 6 weeks. It seems that not all courses require a large block of teaching!?
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    (Original post by QueenAli)
    Heya,
    I heard from my hospital that I am going to Nottingham for Haematology, and that I will be going for a week at the beginning (3rd week in October). They chose Nottingham over Manchester, because they didn't want me to have to go up there for 6 weeks. It seems that not all courses require a large block of teaching!?
    you'll probably get some distance learning then. i beleive the initial intro block for everyone covers generic working in the nhs stuff (clinical governance, ethics, structure of the nhs, continual professional development etc) and research skills based things
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    Hi,
    I was just wondering if everyone else doing Med Phys in London (St. George's) and anyone else studying the MSc at KCL got the email from a Dr. Tabakov...I think that's his name.
    If so am I right in saying that what we need to do next is: apply for the MSc (just seems to be a formality, they won't check references), then our 'first day' is 19th September, after that a 2 day induction at St. George's (I've forgotten the dates, I think they were on the front of the contract), enrolment at KCL is 23rd September, lectures start 28th September.

    According the email we will "have studies most of the time from 28/9 to 23/12" and then "From January 2012 you shall have one full year of practical placements, guided by your Training Centre, but we shall arrange regular meetings at about 6-8 weeks intervals".

    Is this what everyone else has got so far?
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    (Original post by daf813)
    Hi,
    I was just wondering if everyone else doing Med Phys in London (St. George's) and anyone else studying the MSc at KCL got the email from a Dr. Tabakov...I think that's his name.
    If so am I right in saying that what we need to do next is: apply for the MSc (just seems to be a formality, they won't check references), then our 'first day' is 19th September, after that a 2 day induction at St. George's (I've forgotten the dates, I think they were on the front of the contract), enrolment at KCL is 23rd September, lectures start 28th September.

    According the email we will "have studies most of the time from 28/9 to 23/12" and then "From January 2012 you shall have one full year of practical placements, guided by your Training Centre, but we shall arrange regular meetings at about 6-8 weeks intervals".

    Is this what everyone else has got so far?
    the KCL dates and stuff i've been given too (engineering). The 19th and hospital inducation I haven't been told, but thats down the trust, but it will be something similar.

    I'm not sure what they mean by the "regular meettings at 6-8 week intervals" .... I'm going to be in Hull lol
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    (Original post by daf813)
    Hi,
    I was just wondering if everyone else doing Med Phys in London (St. George's) and anyone else studying the MSc at KCL got the email from a Dr. Tabakov...I think that's his name.
    If so am I right in saying that what we need to do next is: apply for the MSc (just seems to be a formality, they won't check references), then our 'first day' is 19th September, after that a 2 day induction at St. George's (I've forgotten the dates, I think they were on the front of the contract), enrolment at KCL is 23rd September, lectures start 28th September.

    According the email we will "have studies most of the time from 28/9 to 23/12" and then "From January 2012 you shall have one full year of practical placements, guided by your Training Centre, but we shall arrange regular meetings at about 6-8 weeks intervals".

    Is this what everyone else has got so far?
    I'm also at St George's (Clin Eng) and my first day is 23rd (KCL induction), followed by 2-day St George's induction on 26-27th and lectures starting on 28th.
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    hi guys,

    first of all congratulations to all of you that got a place and are about to start, well done!!!

    i was wondering if there was anybody that got a position or applied or is going to apply for clinical embryology? i went through all the pages but i didn't see any post regarding embryology.

    i just wanted to know how the interview panel was, what are the starting dates and where will the master be held... how many positions are can we expect for the next round of application... you know just to share some info...

    hope somebody is in this forum,

    thank you

    susy
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    (Original post by susy)
    hi guys,

    first of all congratulations to all of you that got a place and are about to start, well done!!!

    i was wondering if there was anybody that got a position or applied or is going to apply for clinical embryology? i went through all the pages but i didn't see any post regarding embryology.

    i just wanted to know how the interview panel was, what are the starting dates and where will the master be held... how many positions are can we expect for the next round of application... you know just to share some info...

    hope somebody is in this forum,

    thank you

    susy
    Hiya Susy,

    I'm starting my training for clinical embryology in September at the Sheffield clinic. I don't know a lot at the moment but my Msc is going to be based at Nottingham, but I'm not sure if it might vary depending on the clinic you are in? There were 9 positions this year and they interviewed 36 people in 9 groups of 4, but I'm not sure about next year. The interview process was the same as what you might of read other people talking about for other specialisms. With 4 stations, 2 interviewers at each station and a set of questions they asked everyone. It was pretty touch, tbh, there were some quite technical questions that I had no idea about, but I think as long as you have a go at it its ok, they can't expect you to know everything, it is a training position after all.

    Hope that helps
    If you have any more questions feel free to ask

    Vicki
 
 
 
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