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    Don't worry, about the prizes and the PhDs. There's a bit of everything, and we all knew this was going to be very competitive anyway!

    I just checked my application and they are still correlating scores in my page. Does anyone else also get this at this point? Also, this question is for those that applied last year: If you get interviewed how much warning do you get? For me, getting time off work is complicated if left till the last minute!

    Thanks in advance!
    Laura
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    (Original post by LauraLP)
    Don't worry, about the prizes and the PhDs. There's a bit of everything, and we all knew this was going to be very competitive anyway!

    I just checked my application and they are still correlating scores in my page. Does anyone else also get this at this point? Also, this question is for those that applied last year: If you get interviewed how much warning do you get? For me, getting time off work is complicated if left till the last minute!

    Thanks in advance!
    Laura
    they are still correlating scores in my page too.:confused:and the shortlisting will end next thursday.:confused:
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    (Original post by 25121982)
    they are still correlating scores in my page too.:confused:and the shortlisting will end next thursday.:confused:
    I spoke to someone from HR on the phone recently and they said they're likey to overrun a little with the shortlisting but that everyone would hear either way if they get an interview. No need to speculate. Also scores on the online tests would only be used in a tiebreaker situation. I don't think that what it says on milkround means anything, really.
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    I spoke to someone from HR on the phone recently and they said they're likey to overrun a little with the shortlisting
    This was always bound to happen so I don't hold out hope finding out any time soon. They said April in the email so I'm thinking it will probably be mid to late April when we'll know.

    ps. I'm not applying for Cardiac but I have no experience whatsoever outside of undergrad labs and final year project (which I've not even done yet)
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    (Original post by LauraLP)
    Also, this question is for those that applied last year: If you get interviewed how much warning do you get? For me, getting time off work is complicated if left till the last minute!
    There wasn't much warning last year. I think it was 2 weeks exactly - and you got no alternative choice of day/time. The disciplines with more posts may allow you to switch day if they're doing it on multiple days and you've got a very good excuse. But clinical engineering for example was only done on one day last year.

    Also, I heard tales of an Irish girl who got less than a weeks notice due to communication mess ups by the nhs recruitment team. Not exactly ideal when you've got to book flights/ferries!

    good luck!
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    I spoke to someone from HR on the phone recently and they said they're likey to overrun a little with the shortlisting
    assume everything will overrun - I would be suprised if any timings got stuck to
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    (Original post by LauraLP)
    Don't worry, about the prizes and the PhDs. There's a bit of everything, and we all knew this was going to be very competitive anyway!

    I just checked my application and they are still correlating scores in my page. Does anyone else also get this at this point? Also, this question is for those that applied last year: If you get interviewed how much warning do you get? For me, getting time off work is complicated if left till the last minute!

    Thanks in advance!
    Laura
    I'd suggest keeping your eyes peeled for the interview dates then. If i remember correctly the dates were released for each discipline before the candidates were notified last year. That way you can book the day off before you know if you're shorlisted, just in case.
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    (Original post by amybolsworth)
    Im exactly the same! Well will have my degree come September. And just have undergraduate lab experience. I read on here that people have got it straight out of uni just with their degree so fingers crossed we will be fine. Where did you apply?
    Once you've got to the interview stage - everything you've got down on paper is completely irrelevant. PhDs, awards, published papers, proven excellence etc counts for nothing. Its just down to how you answer the two technical questions and two general questions. (assuming its the same speed dating style).

    Communication skills and logical thinking on the day count for alot.

    Its a pretty rubbish recruitment process on many grounds. But at the end of the day it is meant to be a graduate training scheme - so its meant to identify potential and not the excellence of fully functioning professionals like a normal job application. Which in some ways is good and others bad - but you can never please everyone!
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    (Original post by louisecc)
    There wasn't much warning last year. I think it was 2 weeks exactly - and you got no alternative choice of day/time.
    Two weeks? Well, I suppose I'll have to book my flights as soon as they give the dates, regardless of being shortlisted or not. May as well go to Birmingham anyway for the day. Though, booking a 5 hour flight and then being told you're not shortlisted is a real pain...

    Thanks!
    Laura

    ps- the two technical questions, does anyone have a clue what they could be like? Practical? Theoretical? Unpreparable?
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    (Original post by LauraLP)
    Two weeks? Well, I suppose I'll have to book my flights as soon as they give the dates, regardless of being shortlisted or not. May as well go to Birmingham anyway for the day. Though, booking a 5 hour flight and then being told you're not shortlisted is a real pain...

    Thanks!
    Laura

    ps- the two technical questions, does anyone have a clue what they could be like? Practical? Theoretical? Unpreparable?
    Last year they were theoretical. They required a bit of subject knowledge but mostly thinking on your feet. You should be revising the subject knowledge for one of the other sections anyway so yes I see the technical questions as relatively unpreparable I'm afraid. I hope that helps.
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    it will be exciting when this thread lights up with people saying they've heard back about interviews!
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    (Original post by LauraLP)
    ps- the two technical questions, does anyone have a clue what they could be like? Practical? Theoretical? Unpreparable?
    last year the clinical engineers were asked at one station to:
    -draw a wheatstone bridge and describe how it works
    -explain how one could be used to measure blood pressure
    -possibly some other stuff associated with it

    and at the other technical station:
    -given a scenario where a wheelchair user had fallen out of their chair whilst trying to do something (can't remember what)
    - asked to imagine you were the clinician, describe what would you do? who would you talk to
    - something about publicity and how you would handle it
    -something about design alternatives to the solution
    -other stuff relating to this and managing patients and manufacturers and other clinical staff

    So the wheatstone bridge one you could have prepared for if you had revised your electronics modules (a relatively small part of mechanical engineering degrees which is what most candidates have). But its unlikely that you would have directly been able to prepare for the blood pressure part. Just general knowledge and logical thinking to link technical knowledge of wheatstone bridge and very basic physiological knowledge. But clinical measurements (eg blood pressure) and medical electronics is something covered in the training scheme.

    The wheelchair question ... not necessarily covered by most mech eng degrees. But people who had done a bit in medical engineering may have done something about wheelchair provision - but its definitely a topic covered in the training scheme. So theres some things you could have read about general approaches to provision of wheelchairs etc. but alot is down to you thinking on your feet about the theoretical situation.

    So probably your best bet is to read the learning guides and make sure you know a bit about the broad areas covered by the training scheme.
    But its very difficult to cover everything that could possibly be asked.
    I beleive part of each question covers technical knowledge and the other part more the application of that knowledge. I don't know exactly about other Pathways/specialisms, just guessing it takes the same pattern.

    Hope that helps?

    ps. the blood pressure station also asked you to explain something about how another physiological measurement is made eg. ECG or EMG. ... and something else about measurement frequencies. which needed you to have some knowledge of physiology and the body signals, and a little electrical technical knowledge to link the two. Again something thats definitely in the training scheme for my pathway
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    It doesn't matter what your background is, what will matter in the interview stage is getting across how you have the skills and experience to fulfil the STP role.

    To answer the question of whether being an undergrad or a MSc/PhD graduate puts you in a better position.... Yes, having a PhD probably means you will have more experience in skills such as supervision, teaching and obviously research, however those who have worked in an NHS lab will have valuable hands on experience working with clinical samples, areas for potential development, etc [apologies, I'm a life sciences STP, so my response it a bit biased towards this area].

    Having a PhD will help you in the long-term with your career progression, as you will quickly be able to move beyond a band 7 position compared to those without one. There are lots of opportunities to complete a PhD at band 7 level, although this will mean at least another 3-6 years depending on whether you are full/part-time funded on top of your MRCpath training.
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    Randomly, the online application has changed to 'Thank you. Your application is currently being reviewed'

    EEK!
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    (Original post by cfptwenty)
    Randomly, the online application has changed to 'Thank you. Your application is currently being reviewed'

    EEK!
    Mine too, which is a nice change from your application is no longer being considered. :P
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    Mine too, which is a nice change from your application is no longer being considered. :P
    Is that what it says on some peoples?
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    anyone applied to med phys in Scotland, and heard back yet?
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    (Original post by bigbanggeek)
    anyone applied to med phys in Scotland, and heard back yet?
    I have and no I haven't. If you log in it says something along the lines of it's being considered.


    Also, to cfptwenty, for med phys applicants they lowered the benchmark for the logic test so I was rejected and then unrejected but it took a while for the milkround site to catch up!
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    (Original post by bigbanggeek)
    anyone applied to med phys in Scotland, and heard back yet?
    Someone I work with has an interview
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    I have and no I haven't. If you log in it says something along the lines of it's being considered.


    Also, to cfptwenty, for med phys applicants they lowered the benchmark for the logic test so I was rejected and then unrejected but it took a while for the milkround site to catch up!
    ye mine says that too... i know someone who was put on a waiting list for interviews which were sometime this week i think, so dunno what to make of that

    and ye i was in the same position for the england one got rejected then unrejected lol nice to finally see theyre reviewing it now!
 
 
 
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