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    (Original post by laura130490)
    Because I am passionate about many areas of life sciences, not just one specific area. So why would should I relocate when I would happy to work in any of the specialisms I have picked? My degree includes microbiology, physiology, haematology, immunology, biochemistry and pharmacology so why am I any less of a good candidate for loving lots of areas of science than someone who just likes and will only work in one?
    Clinical scientists generally have to be willing to relocate in order for their career to progress as the place you train may not have money for permanent positions after the training period is over. Obviously I don't know your current circumstances and maybe you'd move in the future but if you get an interview I'd keep your unwillingness to relocate a secret.
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    I am well aware of this, if it was a choice between no job or relocating then I would relocate. But for various reasons including financial ones I'd rather not, plus I genuinely do not have a strong preference for any of the areas I have picked. I've worked in two of them so know I would enjoy a post there. There is no rule which states that you can only like one area of science, and it doesn't make you any better just because you are unwilling to work in other areas. It's down to personal preferences and circumstances.
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    (Original post by laura130490)
    I am well aware of this, if it was a choice between no job or relocating then I would relocate. But for various reasons including financial ones I'd rather not, plus I genuinely do not have a strong preference for any of the areas I have picked. I've worked in two of them so know I would enjoy a post there. There is no rule which states that you can only like one area of science, and it doesn't make you any better just because you are unwilling to work in other areas. It's down to personal preferences and circumstances.
    If the recruiters didn't think that it was appropriate for people to apply to more than one specialty they wouldn't have clearly stated the interview arrangements for people who apply to more than one. You sound well qualified and I'm sure you'll do great at interview. If it's anything like last year the questions won't be based on your application so applying to other specialties won't come up. Good luck!
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    If the recruiters didn't think that it was appropriate for people to apply to more than one specialty they wouldn't have clearly stated the interview arrangements for people who apply to more than one. You sound well qualified and I'm sure you'll do great at interview. If it's anything like last year the questions won't be based on your application so applying to other specialties won't come up. Good luck!
    Thank you I'm sure you will do really well as well, especially since you've already been through the process, that's gotta give you a really big advantage. Fingers crossed we will both get interviews!
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    (Original post by laura130490)
    Thank you I'm sure you will do really well as well, especially since you've already been through the process, that's gotta give you a really big advantage. Fingers crossed we will both get interviews!
    Thanks, I just didn't think there was any reason for all the nastiness all the specialties other than med phys sound the same to me anyway! :P
    I think it helps that I knew what I needed to improve on but the way they go about the process can and does change (grr aptitude tests), so it's not like I know too much of what to expect. It also means a rejection would be harder to take!
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    (Original post by mateyface)
    Thanks, I just didn't think there was any reason for all the nastiness all the specialties other than med phys sound the same to me anyway! :P
    I think it helps that I knew what I needed to improve on but the way they go about the process can and does change (grr aptitude tests), so it's not like I know too much of what to expect. It also means a rejection would be harder to take!
    Lol! Yeah tbh I don't think there's too much difference between some of them myself! It took me ages to decide which ones to do cause I liked a lot of them. Oh no, that's a bit annoying for you I bet. I'm sure you won't get rejected though, you got through the interviews last year and you have your feedback and interview experience etc. That should definitely help, plus applying again shows you are dedicated
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    (Original post by Japryan)
    I just think that to someone has done a specialised degree and a PhD in order to get a post in their chosen field and worked in labs to gain experience, having a strong passion for that specific career path, it might come as something of an annoyance that someone who applied for many specialites, any of which would be okay as long as it was local. I think each speciality is so different, it possibly shows a lack of commitment and understanding of the role to apply for all options.

    I don't know how good you are, but my particular strengths certainly don't lie in 5+ areas, as I am sure neither do most. Just keep in mind how it could look to them should they be privy to the fact that you have applied to multiple specialities. I do remember that a couple of years ago, there was a limit to the number of specialities you could apply for.
    I've worked in labs for over 12 months full time, upon completion of my degree I'll be a state registered biomedical scientist. So I don't really see how you can judge me when I've actually worked in the areas I have applied to. The maximum number of areas you could apply to was 3. I applied to biochemistry, I spent a week working there full time and got 71% in my final year module, I enjoy it and it's something I am good at. I also applied to haematology, I spent 12 months working there and won an award for the most developed placement student by the institute of biomedical science, I haven't got my module mark back for that yet. The other area I applied to was cardiac sciences, I got 70% in my clinical physiology module and 80% in a coursework about the cardiovascular system. That specialism also involves a lot of patient contact for which I have months of volunteering experience in.

    At the end of the day you know nothing about me or what I am good at, so you have no right to judge my choices. I might not have a PhD or my heart set on a particular area, but for you to say I don't have commitment and an understanding of the areas I have applied to is very offensive. This is a graduate scheme, you do not have to have years and years of experience or a PhD to apply and it is perfectly acceptable to apply to multiple specialisms. Why should I have to explain myself to you anyway? If you are so much better than me what are you worried about?
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    (Original post by Japryan)
    I sense that I have touched a nerve. I know that I don't know you or your ability. I said that. I was commenting on how it could come across to those recruiting, as practical advice to a question YOU had posted. I hope they do ask you actually, and see if you are able to give them a satisfactory answer without getting quite as defensive. Good luck with that.
    No, you have insulted me and judged me when you have no right to. I asked a question about whether you have more than one interview when you apply for multiple posts and you saw it fit to critcise and insult me whilst trying pretend like you were "helping" me. You said my choices will annoy some people, I'm guessing you mean yourself, why? Then continued to make assumptions based on zero facts, just your own opinions about how I'll be viewed as lacking in understanding and dedication when you know absolutely nothing about me.

    You are in no position to offer advice or criticise anyone since you are not even on the scheme yourself or a clinical scientist. I really don't see how looking back at your posts you can't see how they are offensive in that you are trying to make out as if you are helping me, but all you are doing is making sly digs at me and trying to knock my confidence and imply I'm not as good as (you) and other candidates.
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    I went to an STP open day yesterday and the lab manager who said she might be on the interviewing panel asked me whether I had applied for more than one speciality and the locations I had applied to, from what I've read on here Japryan was only advising you that you should probably have an answer ready to question they may well ask.

    Im also a biomed student who's spent a year placement and completed the IBMS portfolio, but at the open day they didnt seem bothered about how much experience you had or your level of education - you have to complete a masters as part of this training programme anyway! They just want hard working, self-motivated people who care about patients needs and who are going to make good scientists - so laura you may be just what they're looking for, dont let anyone make you doubt yourself!

    Best of luck to everyone who has applied, I hope we hear back soon!
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    Oh dear, I've not enquired about open days yet. Have I probably missed the boat?

    I was waiting to hear about the application first, was that stupid?

    balls
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    (Original post by GRJ15)
    I went to an STP open day yesterday and the lab manager who said she might be on the interviewing panel asked me whether I had applied for more than one speciality and the locations I had applied to, from what I've read on here Japryan was only advising you that you should probably have an answer ready to question they may well ask.

    Im also a biomed student who's spent a year placement and completed the IBMS portfolio, but at the open day they didnt seem bothered about how much experience you had or your level of education - you have to complete a masters as part of this training programme anyway! They just want hard working, self-motivated people who care about patients needs and who are going to make good scientists - so laura you may be just what they're looking for, dont let anyone make you doubt yourself!

    Best of luck to everyone who has applied, I hope we hear back soon!
    He was having a dig at me and trying to make out like he was helping me. The "I hope they ask you" kind of gave it away at the beginning. I understand they will most likely ask me that question, and I have my answer prepared. But I don't really think anyone should be giving advice on here about what interviewers want/think and making judgements about people when they don't even know them.

    I don't come here on here to put people down and try and make them worry, I come on here for information and support and I felt like his posts were rude and judgmental. Another poster said they thought they were nasty as well, so I'm not the only one who thought he was having a dig at me.

    Anyway, has anyone heard anything back yet? I heard that someone was told they have an interview, but other than that nothing. The wait is killing me though! I should be concentrating on my thesis and revision, instead I keep checking on here for more info
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    (Original post by neuneu)
    Oh dear, I've not enquired about open days yet. Have I probably missed the boat?

    I was waiting to hear about the application first, was that stupid?

    balls
    They've been posting on Twitter about open days (@NHSCareers). I've been checking everyday and there havent been very many of them especially for life sciences, only 6 people turned up to the Coventry one yesterday and I was the only one there interested in Haematology. I wasn't going to go as I live 3 hours away and could have been a possible waste of time if i dont get an interview, but I think it was still useful for me just to see the work that goes on in other labs and get an outline of what the training programme will involve and what they except from STP applicants. If you're interested in open days I'd recommend signing up to Twitter, you can also tweet NHS careers for the appropriate contact details of the hospitals you've applied for to arrange an informal visit.
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    (Original post by GRJ15)
    They've been posting on Twitter about open days (@NHSCareers). I've been checking everyday and there havent been very many of them especially for life sciences, only 6 people turned up to the Coventry one yesterday and I was the only one there interested in Haematology. I wasn't going to go as I live 3 hours away and could have been a possible waste of time if i dont get an interview, but I think it was still useful for me just to see the work that goes on in other labs and get an outline of what the training programme will involve and what they except from STP applicants. If you're interested in open days I'd recommend signing up to Twitter, you can also tweet NHS careers for the appropriate contact details of the hospitals you've applied for to arrange an informal visit.
    I would have thought that there would have been loads of people there as most people I have called and asked for a lab visit have told me that due to high numbers, we can only go on set days. Wow. I wish had put haematology in Coventry down now! I was worried it would look bad applying for too many things though. Fingers crossed for you, it sounds like you have a great chance!

    I have been following this thread for a while and have put off joining but now the time for interview announcements is approaching, I just couldn't resist any longer. Please post as soon as you all hear anything!
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    i've heard that now the departments have picked the people they want to see and have passed on this info to the higher powers who arrange interviews, so we should be hearing by next week, anyone else heard something similar? Or is this one of those things that gets my hopes up and drives me insane :eek:
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    (Original post by bigbanggeek)
    i've heard that now the departments have picked the people they want to see and have passed on this info to the higher powers who arrange interviews, so we should be hearing by next week, anyone else heard something similar? Or is this one of those things that gets my hopes up and drives me insane :eek:
    I haven't heard this, but then again I'm not in touch with anyone recruiting. Thanks for letting people know Do you think they'll get back to people by email or by phone call/letter?
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    (Original post by laura130490)
    I haven't heard this, but then again I'm not in touch with anyone recruiting. Thanks for letting people know Do you think they'll get back to people by email or by phone call/letter?
    I have no idea because last year england got back by e-mail and scotland got back by letter, and for others they got phone calls for england. lol doesn't really help you but i guess we have to check everything
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    The panels had to make a short list decision by 22nd March, this info had to be sent to MSC west midlands by that date, so fingers crossed it won't be long until we hear something, although the NHS has never been well known for it's time keeping
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    (Original post by bigbanggeek)
    I have no idea because last year england got back by e-mail and scotland got back by letter, and for others they got phone calls for england. lol doesn't really help you but i guess we have to check everything
    Ha ha yeah I guess we'll have to then, cheers.
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    (Original post by bioblue)
    The panels had to make a short list decision by 22nd March, this info had to be sent to MSC west midlands by that date, so fingers crossed it won't be long until we hear something, although the NHS has never been well known for it's time keeping
    hmm that means that next week could be a reasonable time, i mean how long should it really take to just let us know lol

    fingers crossed! good luck everyone!!
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    We have concrete news now :O According to the FB page -

    NHS Scientist Training Programme

    We hope to start sending out interview invites for the above scheme next week. If you are lucky enough to be invited to interview please make sure you follow the booking instructions carefully and book your interview slot for the correct discipline. If you are not sure please check with us first as if you attend the wrong interview they will not be able to see you.

    Good luck everyone
 
 
 
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