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    Yeah because none of the essay questions actually ask for your work experiences do they, I guess you have to fit as much a you can I to the relevant question whilst still answering the theme of the question, it's tricky....


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    (Original post by Bread Roll)
    A few interesting questions here! I applied last year and was offered an interview but had to withdraw my application (had a baby in September). The questions were almost identical then only they've cut the word limit by 50 per question and added a new section asking what you've done to find out about the STP.

    For the last one the answer they really want (at least for clinical biochemistry) is that you have been into a hospital to see the appropriate lab and meet someone in your specialist field. If you did not know this however you can at least state an intention of doing so.

    In the questions basically you have to get your CV into prose while still answering the question. If you already have a generic CV a good place to start is to take each achievement/skill and match it up to the most relevant question before you start writing. Also you may wish to only include the best bits of your CV and emphasize them more rather than listing everything you have ever done.

    For example teaching experience is an example of leadership, if you have organized any of your own research projects that demonstrates initiative and organizational skills, if you worked in retail as a student that shows experience of working with the public etc etc
    Can't u defer if u get pregnant... or what if u get pregnant within the 3 years. Then what

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    Can't u defer if u get pregnant... or what if u get pregnant within the 3 years. Then what

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    You definitely can't defer- I tried. I'm not sure what happens if you get pregnant during, but I think legally they would have no choice but to work out a way around that. My baby clashed exactly with the start of the course. Either way staying in my current post meant paid maternity leave so it was a bit of a no brainer!
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    (Original post by Bread Roll)
    You definitely can't defer- I tried. I'm not sure what happens if you get pregnant during, but I think legally they would have no choice but to work out a way around that. My baby clashed exactly with the start of the course. Either way staying in my current post meant paid maternity leave so it was a bit of a no brainer!
    Congratulations Bread Roll on your little one, I hope you are finding it OK. My little girl is coming up to three years old now, and is really enjoying nursery so it feels like the right time for me to have a go at applying to the STP. Do you plan to apply again this year? The biggest issue I now face is that it is much harder to relocate with a little one, but it seems so difficult to get a place anyway I thought I should give it my best shot.
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    (Original post by mbdsslc5)
    Hello everybody. I was wondering if any of you could help me shed some light on what this question means at the end:

    Team working and leadership. In no more than 300 words demonstrate how you have worked as part of a team and outline the skills you used to influence the outputs of that team. Please summarise your achievements in order to demonstrate you are a high achieving individual

    The achievements its asking for...are these achievements relating to teamwork and leadership...or any achievements in your life/career? I'm a bit confused.

    Thanks!
    I have been wondering about that one too. So far I have put an example and explained some skills I used in the example. The last bit seems like an entirely different question though, and as such I have stated how the example demonstrated some achievement, though feel like I need to go on to list other achievements. Bit worried about going off topic though and not properly answering the question. That, and I am already at 298 words and need to do some serious editing!! Perhaps they left it a little ambiguous to get variation in the answers and see how different people approached the question?
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    HEY GUYS

    What sort of thinggs have you put for this question?


    2.Your passion for science and/or technology

    In no more than 300 words, pleasedemonstrate your passion for science and/or technology and provide evidenceabout how you seek to implement constant improvement and
    innovation in your work/studies.



    @ BREAD ROLL.... "added a new section asking what you've done to find out about the STP." What a shocker! I compleatly hatee qs like this cos they are soo obvious that they trip you up. The only thing here I can think of is stating you've been going to places where you found about this (but then if I said this I would be lieing)... so that'll be a compleate no no... what can else can you put for this question? Good job I checked this post...
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    (Original post by Minimalist__)
    From reading this thread, it seems that for audiology in the past you needed to have already applied for the MSc seperately from the STP application. Does anyone know if this is still the case? I can see the list of approved unis for masters courses for each of the specialisms, but I can't find any more info about when you apply for the masters, or if you automatically get on the masters programme by being accepted on the STP programme.

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    For life sciences you apply to the university you're told to apply to once you start the job. They know to expect your application and it's rubber stamped. You won't get a choice of university, so I wouldn't worry too much about that at this stage!
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    (Original post by Bread Roll)
    You definitely can't defer- I tried. I'm not sure what happens if you get pregnant during, but I think legally they would have no choice but to work out a way around that. My baby clashed exactly with the start of the course. Either way staying in my current post meant paid maternity leave so it was a bit of a no brainer!
    Legally they have to pay maternity, but they don't have to extend your contract. Which means they probably won't. My guess is that you'd end up not finishing and trying to find funding for the third year. But I don't know anything about that for certain.
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    (Original post by breakout)
    Legally they have to pay maternity, but they don't have to extend your contract. Which means they probably won't. My guess is that you'd end up not finishing and trying to find funding for the third year. But I don't know anything about that for certain.
    I'd think it quite unlikely that the NHS would refuse to extend a contract in that scenario. Three years is a long time and the scheme is for postgraduates (i.e. a lot of people at the age of wanting to start families). They'd be leaving themselves wide open to accusations of gender discrimination if they didn't behave reasonably in this sort of situation. Also they have a good reputation as responsible employers- they are not Walmart!

    My situation was different, in that I was already expecting and would have missed the first 6 months of training. I don't know anybody who has actually had a baby while already enrolled but given the age range of the applicants it must happen on a fairly regular basis, the same as for PhD candidates and science trainees in industry.
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    (Original post by Bread Roll)
    I'd think it quite unlikely that the NHS would refuse to extend a contract in that scenario. Three years is a long time and the scheme is for postgraduates (i.e. a lot of people at the age of wanting to start families). They'd be leaving themselves wide open to accusations of gender discrimination if they didn't behave reasonably in this sort of situation. Also they have a good reputation as responsible employers- they are not Walmart!

    My situation was different, in that I was already expecting and would have missed the first 6 months of training. I don't know anybody who has actually had a baby while already enrolled but given the age range of the applicants it must happen on a fairly regular basis, the same as for PhD candidates and science trainees in industry.
    I think the issue will be that the salaries don't come from the NHS. They get funding for three years of salary. Budgets are tight and departments may not be able to fund a fourth year if a year is taken for maternity.

    I don't know. I'm not planning to until after the course but I guess in the end the NHS would refer to the wonderful phrase 'at your manager's discretion'
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    For those wondering about MSc Applications:

    The SHA have a contract with the Unis that covers the places for STP students. Unis are running the courses with the guarantee that they get x number of students. It is then up to the uni to open applications for additional places.

    The long and short of it is, once you get a place on the STP you automatically have a place on the MSc course. You will then be told to apply officially to that masters program, indicating that you're an STP trainee - but it felt a bit like a dummy application.

    The uni that you go to however is a little bit convoluted... it all depends on how the geographical distribution of students & universities lies, and how much each hospital has been lobbying the SHA to get the nearest uni.

    For example, a trainee on the south coast may end up spending two days a week in Liverpool, not their nearest uni (London), but the trainee in the hospital next door will be in London.... Oh and some unis do block training (so all in 3months) others do 2 days a week for a year... its all to do with the luck of the draw.
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    (Original post by FID10)
    Congratulations Bread Roll on your little one, I hope you are finding it OK. My little girl is coming up to three years old now, and is really enjoying nursery so it feels like the right time for me to have a go at applying to the STP. Do you plan to apply again this year? The biggest issue I now face is that it is much harder to relocate with a little one, but it seems so difficult to get a place anyway I thought I should give it my best shot.
    No, not this year. I really wanted to but have decided not to. The having to spend time away from home is a major problem. My husband stays at home with the children so without a guarantee that the NHS would pay my travel and living expenses I can't afford to risk maintaining two households. Also with two children he doesn't want to be a single Dad for potentially weeks at a time which is not unreasonable. Added to that it is an effective £5,000 paycut from a postdoc's starting salary and at least three years till I could catch up. So no... I wanted to do clinical biochemistry but they have made the professional entry route far too difficult. Perhaps if they ever get around to organizing the higher specialist entry route I'll be able to try again in the future.
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    I was wondering regarding the selection of candidates for STP 2013. Is it on the basis of the online aptitude test? I am aware if we fail in online test, our application will not be forwarded. does that mean passing the test will pave our way to the interview in March? anybody aware about this please?????

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    I was wondering regarding the selection of candidates for STP 2013. Is it on the basis of the online aptitude test? I am aware if we fail in online test, our application will not be forwarded. does that mean passing the test will pave our way to the interview in March? do u know abt this please?

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    (Original post by anusuraj)
    I was wondering regarding the selection of candidates for STP 2013. Is it on the basis of the online aptitude test? I am aware if we fail in online test, our application will not be forwarded. does that mean passing the test will pave our way to the interview in March? do u know abt this please?
    Yes and no. They use the online aptitude tests simply to narrow down the applicants. If you pass it means that they will read your application, but you might still not get an interview. They will "score" your application based on criteria they are looking for and the people with the highest scores (around 3 per vacancy) are invited for interview.

    The consultant biochemist I spoke with told me that they do not see your CV at interview- so effectively everyone is on an even footing going in. Everyone is asked the same questions and how well you perform determines the final selection. This is either very good or very bad news depending on your experience!
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    (Original post by Bread Roll)
    No, not this year. I really wanted to but have decided not to. The having to spend time away from home is a major problem. My husband stays at home with the children so without a guarantee that the NHS would pay my travel and living expenses I can't afford to risk maintaining two households. Also with two children he doesn't want to be a single Dad for potentially weeks at a time which is not unreasonable. Added to that it is an effective £5,000 paycut from a postdoc's starting salary and at least three years till I could catch up. So no... I wanted to do clinical biochemistry but they have made the professional entry route far too difficult. Perhaps if they ever get around to organizing the higher specialist entry route I'll be able to try again in the future.
    That does sound like an impossible situation, hopefully they will introduce a scheme catering for those with postdoc experience soon for you to apply. I am a little concerned by the flexibility you have to offer in where you get placed and where you study, it is logistically far harder now than when I had graduated. Will be very pleasantly surprised if I manage to get to the stage where I need to worry about that tho, so am certainly not moaning!
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    Well, I have just calmed down after completing the online tests. How did everyone else get on that has taken them? I thought the practice questions were far simpler than the actual questions. I am usually OK under pressure and would say I have reasonable numerical skills, but the time went so quickly for me. Personally I preferred the reasoning questions to the numerical ones but wish I had found some more practice tests to do first now. Do we find out instantly if we didn't do well enough to pass onto the next stage? After submission I was presented with the statement:

    Thank you. We will now correlate all of your scores.

    And the email I had immediately after submission said:

    Thank you for completing the online tests for the NHS Scientist Training Programme.

    We will aim to start contacting candidates in March to inform you on the outcome of your application.

    Was this the experience of anyone else?
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    This is exactly the same reply I received. I honestly don't now how they select the exact candidate. well have to wait till March...sigh.!!
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    (Original post by FID10)
    Well, I have just calmed down after completing the online tests. How did everyone else get on that has taken them? I thought the practice questions were far simpler than the actual questions. I am usually OK under pressure and would say I have reasonable numerical skills, but the time went so quickly for me. Personally I preferred the reasoning questions to the numerical ones but wish I had found some more practice tests to do first now. Do we find out instantly if we didn't do well enough to pass onto the next stage? After submission I was presented with the statement:

    Thank you. We will now correlate all of your scores.

    And the email I had immediately after submission said:

    Thank you for completing the online tests for the NHS Scientist Training Programme.

    We will aim to start contacting candidates in March to inform you on the outcome of your application.

    Was this the experience of anyone else?
    YES, this is exactly what I got. But not sure if this means I passed the tests or not??
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    (Original post by FID10)
    Well, I have just calmed down after completing the online tests. How did everyone else get on that has taken them? I thought the practice questions were far simpler than the actual questions. I am usually OK under pressure and would say I have reasonable numerical skills, but the time went so quickly for me. Personally I preferred the reasoning questions to the numerical ones but wish I had found some more practice tests to do first now. Do we find out instantly if we didn't do well enough to pass onto the next stage? After submission I was presented with the statement:

    Thank you. We will now correlate all of your scores.

    And the email I had immediately after submission said:

    Thank you for completing the online tests for the NHS Scientist Training Programme.

    We will aim to start contacting candidates in March to inform you on the outcome of your application.

    Was this the experience of anyone else?
    This is exactly the same reply I received. I honestly don't now how they select the exact candidate. well have to wait till March...sigh.!!
 
 
 
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