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    Just submitted my presentation - thanks for the input noangel. Now to start learning it!

    Currently a consultant clinical scientist can earn a maximum of 93k? I wander if there's scope for private consultancy - on par with medics?

    I've been too afraid to ask this but I've heard rumours that the role of clinical scientist will soon start to be etched out of the NHS in preference to some other similar career.....advanced nurse practitioners, physician assistants, consultant biomeds? ? ? Not the kind of thing one likes to hear when looking to spend my entire life in this profession. Anyone else hear this?
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    (Original post by misanthropic)

    I've been too afraid to ask this but I've heard rumours that the role of clinical scientist will soon start to be etched out of the NHS in preference to some other similar career.....advanced nurse practitioners, physician assistants, consultant biomeds? ? ? Not the kind of thing one likes to hear when looking to spend my entire life in this profession. Anyone else hear this?
    Yeah I've heard this too. Apparently it's because of the employment gap in most areas of clinical science meaning that as many of the consultants are retiring in the next 10 years there may not be enough skilled clinical scientists to take their place due to the low employment or career progression of these scientists in recent years. They are trying to correct this however by increasing training positions and improving progression etc but the above things you mentioned are also an option to addressing the problem
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    (Original post by NoAngel)
    Yes this is right. Consultant Clinical Scientists reach the same status as Consultant doctors. However, clinical scientists will be on the Agenda for change pay scale, meaning that the top of it is Band 9, i.e. beginning at 73k, wheras doctors did not agree to this pay scale, and Consultant doctors are actually on a higher salary at the minute.

    Never mind though, by the time any of us make it that far the salary will have increased anyway. It's exciting to think there is s much potential to advance in this career.
    Yeah, I guess thats the issue with working in the public sector...

    I'm not sure how you can be sure that they will increase the salary in the future. Though it still sounds pretty good.
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    The NHS is pretty good at pay increasing, there will definately be increases each year. In fact they've already been decided in advance to cover until 2011. It's much more secure than many private companies with lots of benefits. May not be perfect but I'm looking forward to my future career ) Don't let anything put you off if it's what you want to do- there's so much career progression.
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    So Flexin - what does this mean for us? (Provided I get the job of course lol)

    Will we be the last of the clinical scientists or will they cut our careers short half way through? I couldn't think of anything worse, we'd be totally over qualified with no niche job market.
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    As far as I can tell they definately would prefer to keep the role of clinical scientists going as this is a unique role and requires specialist skills which if other professionals had to learn or do would require too much of their time. However the phasing out of clinical scientists would probably be a last resort if they are unable to find solutions for the estimated future staff shortage problems. Either way if it does happen I doubt those already employed will loose their jobs it would more than likely mean that less clinical scientist job openings would be available in the future. Hopefully this wont happen though!
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    Hi guys and girls,

    I've been reading through the posts here for some extra information. I'm considering applying for the 2009/2010 recruitment with Northgate Clinical for a work based training programme in a laboratory.

    I've basically applied to the IBMS (Institute of Biomedical Scientists) and have been instructed to undertake a lab programme for a year and do a portfolio, and study extra modules at university to fill the gaps in my Biochemistry degree and postgrad qualifications. I've completed the modules and am now in a position to find a lab placement.

    Can anyone tell me if there are any other, except Northgate Clinical, places to apply for placements ? I've tried a lot of search engines and recruitment consultants but have found very little luck. Any tips would be immense.

    P.S. Good Luck to everyone else applying for the Clinical Scientist posts. I pray you all do vry well :yep:

    -U-
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    Hey guys, just to conclude on my clinical science recruitment process.

    I only managed 1 of 4 interviews and after a reasonable interview performance I was pipped to the post (pun very much intended) by a candidate who recently finished a Ph.D in the field of haematology. Gutted but also pleased to have lost out to the far superior choice at the end of the day. I came second out of 90 something others so I'll take that with me - its only a pity there's no prize for second place.

    As for me now - plan B; start medicine this october.

    Good luck to everyone that managed to secure a place - I envy you!
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    (Original post by misanthropic)
    Hey guys, just to conclude on my clinical science recruitment process.

    I only managed 1 of 4 interviews and after a reasonable interview performance I was pipped to the post (pun very much intended) by a candidate who recently finished a Ph.D in the field of haematology. Gutted but also pleased to have lost out to the far superior choice at the end of the day. I came second out of 90 something others so I'll take that with me - its only a pity there's no prize for second place.

    As for me now - plan B; start medicine this october.

    Good luck to everyone that managed to secure a place - I envy you!
    I'm sorry to hear that, good luck with medicine.
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    sorry to hear misanthropic, and best of luck with Medicine.

    Everyone probably alreay knows, but just to remind you that the clearing phase started on Friday and there are a couple of new posts listed on the website, closing dates are 17th July.
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    Hello Everyone
    I feel so much better knowing that there are others also interested in this career. I have been researching it for a while now but no1 seems to know what is happening for 2010.. Is there anyone else out there who is interested in applying for 2010?
    I have visited one lab so far but not sure if I should visit more.. The people that got places for 2009 - what advice would you give me? What do you think helped your application? If I get an idea of what you all have in common then I can make sure I can prepare in order to have it too...
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    (Original post by GraduateSK)
    Hello Everyone
    I feel so much better knowing that there are others also interested in this career. I have been researching it for a while now but no1 seems to know what is happening for 2010.. Is there anyone else out there who is interested in applying for 2010?
    I have visited one lab so far but not sure if I should visit more.. The people that got places for 2009 - what advice would you give me? What do you think helped your application? If I get an idea of what you all have in common then I can make sure I can prepare in order to have it too...
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    I'll be applying for 2010.

    I've visited the same lab 3 times with uni and asked 4 lab managers for a bit of work experience or just to ask if I could look around and not one even acknowledged me emailing them! Not even the one bloke on the phone who offered me paid work over the phone and asked me to email him! So I think that's a complete lost cause.
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    (Original post by misanthropic)
    Hey guys, just to conclude on my clinical science recruitment process.

    I only managed 1 of 4 interviews and after a reasonable interview performance I was pipped to the post (pun very much intended) by a candidate who recently finished a Ph.D in the field of haematology. Gutted but also pleased to have lost out to the far superior choice at the end of the day. I came second out of 90 something others so I'll take that with me - its only a pity there's no prize for second place.

    As for me now - plan B; start medicine this october.

    Good luck to everyone that managed to secure a place - I envy you!
    Well TBH, Medicine sounds far cooler to me. :p: And after we had a careers visit from a Dr. from UCH I am really considering it as a career after a first degree. She said that she knew consultants in London who do other work including Private and are earning 700k.....!
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    Could anyone who got a place this year advise us on what they think secured them the position?
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    Does anyone know if there is any information on modernising scientific careers on the internet? I was told to find out about it even though they explained what it was. I have had a look and can't seem to find anything.

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    (Original post by *Chica*)
    Does anyone know if there is any information on modernising scientific careers on the internet? I was told to find out about it even though they explained what it was. I have had a look and can't seem to find anything.

    Thanks
    You can try the following link, it's from the "skills for health" website

    http://www.skillsforhealth.org.uk/wo...404_Final.ashx
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    GraduateSK- If you read through this thread, you'll see quite a few mentions of what each of us felt secured our posts. However, the main ones included ensuring that you do as many lab visits as possible where you will get the opportunity to look around and ask some questions. Then in an interview you'd be able to tell them about what you saw, learned and enjoyed, etc.
    Also, making sure that the personal statement you write on the application form is good and free from spelling errors, etc. Ask someone to check it and try to get advice, perhaps from your career department or similar.
    In interview, you should know exactly why you want to do this job, what the progression is like, and what will be expected of you, as well as having some questions ready to ask. You should have researched the role thoroughly, via the internet and asking questions on your lab visits.

    I hope that this helps, I'm sure someone else will be along soon to add anything I've missed
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    All those interested in AUDIOLOGY......

    I have just spotted a trainee clinical scientist in audiology post with the Royal Berkshire hospital in Reading advertised on the NHS jobs website. I am not sure of the details but thought it might be interesting for any of the unsucessful audiology applicants.
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    Ah thanks for that Flexin, I know there were a couple of people unsuccessful, I hope they manage to read that in time!!
 
 
 
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