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What's even the point of trying to get a relationship?

When it comes to the world of relationships, dating, and whatever else in that area, I have pretty much no experience at the age of 21, which I've been told is just a bit strange. Never had a girlfriend, never even held hands, kissed, and whatever else you're supposed to do with people you like. And yeah it's been a pretty depressing thought that I missed out on so much and at this point I doubt I will ever get into a relationship.

But recently, I've just been unable to find any good reason to even pursue one, however you even do that. I can't tell if I'm just repressing it or just trying to find excuses for not being in a relationship yet. But what is the point? It just seems like throwing time and money away, and for what, just to hold hands once a week or something? That's not even mentioning the huge stress and anxiety of actually asking someone out. So I'm I missing something? Again, don't know if it's just the fact I'm clueless about relationships, if I'm just trying to justify never being in one, or what, but I'm really failing to see the point anymore.

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Reply 1

The main goal is to find a partner, get married and have children so that you can pass on your genes, knowledge and experiences to future generations. I personally don't want to die alone without any children or grandchildren because it would mean that my family tree would end and there would be no one to carry the throne of the family. I am in the same position as you and exactly the same age as you and I am worried that I will never find anyone and be alone for the rest of my life. We're both very young so it doesn't affect us as much yet, but eventually you'll be in your 30s and 40s and life is going to hit you and you're going to think: what was the point of my existence and why am I still alone? That's what I am scared of the most. But by the time I hit 30s and 40s it's gonna be too late because everyone would've been married already. There's no one left to pursue. That's why if you are serious about finding someone you should do it sooner rather than later.

Reply 2

I mean Anonymous 2 certainly has a take there, but it's not the point for everyone. For a lot of people it's much more simple than that, it's just about finding someone you like and who makes you happy. Don't worry too much about being rejected, or about hunting for someone. You don't need to do it with a tuxedo and flowers, just 'hey, you want to go and see [thing at cinema?]. And then you hang out, and have a nice time, and just keep doing that basically. Romance isn't really a separate thing to friendship, it's just, like, super-friendship. Try not to overthink it!

Reply 3

Original post by Anonymous
The main goal is to find a partner, get married and have children so that you can pass on your genes, knowledge and experiences to future generations. I personally don't want to die alone without any children or grandchildren because it would mean that my family tree would end and there would be no one to carry the throne of the family. I am in the same position as you and exactly the same age as you and I am worried that I will never find anyone and be alone for the rest of my life. We're both very young so it doesn't affect us as much yet, but eventually you'll be in your 30s and 40s and life is going to hit you and you're going to think: what was the point of my existence and why am I still alone? That's what I am scared of the most. But by the time I hit 30s and 40s it's gonna be too late because everyone would've been married already. There's no one left to pursue. That's why if you are serious about finding someone you should do it sooner rather than later.

Completely disagree. If that was the main goal, gay relationships wouldn't exist, nor would people who can't have children for any other reason be in happy relationships, which many of them are.

Reply 4

I don't think I'll ever be in a relationship. I'm shy, have little confidence, have a bad personality, and hate emotional and physical vulnerability, among other things, so there's no reason why any girl would want to date me. There are too many things to that would take up huge amounts of time, effort, and money to correct so I don't see much point in even trying.

Reply 5

Many people want relationships because they want access to a serious intimate monogomous relationship with opportunities for: companionship, cohabititation, emotional investment, raising a family in one household with a committed partner, sexual activity or formal legal status like a civil partnership or marriage.

Of course, lots of people have no desire for any commitment or sexual exclusivity.
Plenty more don't want to have or be responsible for any children.
Dating and serious relationships are not the best option for everyone.
Some people prefer to go down alternative routes like ons, polyamory or to remain happily single and never become sexually active.
Every adult has the right to decide for themselves on their ambitions and dating or relationship dealbreakers.

Reply 6

Original post by londonmyst
Many people want relationships because they want access to a serious intimate monogomous relationship with opportunities for: companionship, cohabititation, emotional investment, raising a family in one household with a committed partner, sexual activity or formal legal status like a civil partnership or marriage.

Of course, lots of people have no desire for any commitment or sexual exclusivity.
Plenty more don't want to have or be responsible for any children.
Dating and serious relationships are not the best option for everyone.
Some people prefer to go down alternative routes like ons, polyamory or to remain happily single and never become sexually active.
Every adult has the right to decide for themselves on their ambitions and dating or relationship dealbreakers.

Yeah everyone can decide what they want out of it, but then how can I find out if it's for me or not if I can't really get into a relationship? Like I just can't understand going out of your way to get those things right now.

Reply 7

Original post by Anonymous
Yeah everyone can decide what they want out of it, but then how can I find out if it's for me or not if I can't really get into a relationship? Like I just can't understand going out of your way to get those things right now.

It sounds like you have other priorities and don't have much interest in sex or a dating type of relationship.
That's fine.

Too many people get into relationships for all the wrong reasons
Because they are afraid of being alone, feel obligated to 'prove' that they can attract dates or get a long term partner, for financial reasons or because it is a family tradition for all healthy adults to have partners.

My last relationship ended 8 years ago.
I won't be dating at all over the next 2 years and am not going to get married.
Other ambitions and priorities.
Good luck!

Reply 8

Maybe you still want a relationship, but have given up on the idea as you feel it is unattainable.

Reply 9

Original post by rosy_posy
Maybe you still want a relationship, but have given up on the idea as you feel it is unattainable.


Yeah that is pretty much the point where I am right now. Better to just learn to live with it than pretend there's a chance.

Reply 10

Original post by Anonymous
It just seems like throwing time and money away, and for what, just to hold hands once a week or something? That's not even mentioning the huge stress and anxiety of actually asking someone out. So I'm I missing something? Again, don't know if it's just the fact I'm clueless about relationships, if I'm just trying to justify never being in one, or what, but I'm really failing to see the point anymore.


How something seems and how something is or how it can be - are 2 entirely different things in the context of this thread.

Throwing time and money away?
The cost per person of 2 people on a holiday is cheaper than a single person. The cost per person of 2 people sharing a home tends to be cheaper 1 person living alone.
Any man showering a woman with gifts is doing it wrong. Any man taking a woman on expensive, 1st, 2nd, 3rd dates is doing it wrong. Buying love doesn't work. It comes over as too needy, desperate, the man not being a big enough prize in and of himself. The provider frame is a bad one to start off with compared to the lover frame.

Time. A supper for 2 can be cooked in about the same time as a supper for 1. The time to hoover a flat shared by 2 people is the same as the time to hoover a single person's flat. Sharing chores saves time.

Holding hands once per week? How sweet! Making love more than once per week is where it's at. Sex is the joint most pleasurable thing that we can do. Why deny yourself such a profound and fulfilling pleasure?

The stress and anxiety is largely self imposed. If any woman refuses your offer, that's fine. Move onto the next woman that you find attractive.
Many people find the idea of handling a common house spider stressful. It's not. Spiders are a bit tickly. There's nothing the spider can do to harm you.

On top of that, the process of learning about relationships is an enjoyable one. Learning how to break the ice competently, how to be attractive during initial conversations, how to assess people, how to make love competently, how to retain partners in the long term. It's all a wonderful series of adventures. When things go wrong they build up your store of amusing anecdotes.

As a super added bonus - getting better at your man to woman social skills will help you in other areas of your life, including your work.
For someone like yourself there's a high chance that these social skills will be of more help in increasing your income than your degree will.

Reply 11

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
How something seems and how something is or how it can be - are 2 entirely different things in the context of this thread.

Throwing time and money away?
The cost per person of 2 people on a holiday is cheaper than a single person. The cost per person of 2 people sharing a home tends to be cheaper 1 person living alone.
Any man showering a woman with gifts is doing it wrong. Any man taking a woman on expensive, 1st, 2nd, 3rd dates is doing it wrong. Buying love doesn't work. It comes over as too needy, desperate, the man not being a big enough prize in and of himself. The provider frame is a bad one to start off with compared to the lover frame.

Time. A supper for 2 can be cooked in about the same time as a supper for 1. The time to hoover a flat shared by 2 people is the same as the time to hoover a single person's flat. Sharing chores saves time.

Holding hands once per week? How sweet! Making love more than once per week is where it's at. Sex is the joint most pleasurable thing that we can do. Why deny yourself such a profound and fulfilling pleasure?

The stress and anxiety is largely self imposed. If any woman refuses your offer, that's fine. Move onto the next woman that you find attractive.
Many people find the idea of handling a common house spider stressful. It's not. Spiders are a bit tickly. There's nothing the spider can do to harm you.

On top of that, the process of learning about relationships is an enjoyable one. Learning how to break the ice competently, how to be attractive during initial conversations, how to assess people, how to make love competently, how to retain partners in the long term. It's all a wonderful series of adventures. When things go wrong they build up your store of amusing anecdotes.

As a super added bonus - getting better at your man to woman social skills will help you in other areas of your life, including your work.
For someone like yourself there's a high chance that these social skills will be of more help in increasing your income than your degree will.


Expensive or cheap gifts or dates or whatever, it's still an expense at the end of the day, both in terms of time, and money (besides I don't really cook for myself right now anyway lol). Besides that nothing there really makes it seem worth it to me. Can't really see how learning about relationships can be fun, for me it just seems too stressful. And don't you have to be years into a relationship for things like sex to even come up? Even then I can't see it being worth the bother.

Reply 12

To be honest if your not that fussed about having a relationship, you’re right it does cut out a lot of hassle. Most people though seem to value the companionship, regular sex and possibly kids that they can bring. Truly the best and worst moments, in my experience. It’s a bit young to be throwing your hands up in despair at 21

Reply 13

Original post by Zarek
To be honest if your not that fussed about having a relationship, you’re right it does cut out a lot of hassle. Most people though seem to value the companionship, regular sex and possibly kids that they can bring. Truly the best and worst moments, in my experience. It’s a bit young to be throwing your hands up in despair at 21

Sure it may be a bit young to give up, but I guess that it's an age where I probably should have at least some experience by now, especially since the amount of people my age who also have no experience will only go down the older I get. Besides I just know myself and know I have just no idea where to even begin looking for a relationship.

Reply 14

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
How something seems and how something is or how it can be - are 2 entirely different things in the context of this thread.

Throwing time and money away?
The cost per person of 2 people on a holiday is cheaper than a single person. The cost per person of 2 people sharing a home tends to be cheaper 1 person living alone.
Any man showering a woman with gifts is doing it wrong. Any man taking a woman on expensive, 1st, 2nd, 3rd dates is doing it wrong. Buying love doesn't work. It comes over as too needy, desperate, the man not being a big enough prize in and of himself. The provider frame is a bad one to start off with compared to the lover frame.

Time. A supper for 2 can be cooked in about the same time as a supper for 1. The time to hoover a flat shared by 2 people is the same as the time to hoover a single person's flat. Sharing chores saves time.

Holding hands once per week? How sweet! Making love more than once per week is where it's at. Sex is the joint most pleasurable thing that we can do. Why deny yourself such a profound and fulfilling pleasure?

The stress and anxiety is largely self imposed. If any woman refuses your offer, that's fine. Move onto the next woman that you find attractive.
Many people find the idea of handling a common house spider stressful. It's not. Spiders are a bit tickly. There's nothing the spider can do to harm you.

On top of that, the process of learning about relationships is an enjoyable one. Learning how to break the ice competently, how to be attractive during initial conversations, how to assess people, how to make love competently, how to retain partners in the long term. It's all a wonderful series of adventures. When things go wrong they build up your store of amusing anecdotes.

As a super added bonus - getting better at your man to woman social skills will help you in other areas of your life, including your work.
For someone like yourself there's a high chance that these social skills will be of more help in increasing your income than your degree will.

I'm not the original poster but I'll answer anyway since I'm pretty similar.

I guess that buying things in larger quantities would make it cheaper per person, but depending on how much your partner contributes it might work out more expensive for you personally. Either way it's a moot point since I'm pretty comfortable with regards to money.

If being a provider isn't desirable then I'm completely out of luck. I'd be emotionally unavailable and would make a terrible lover; even with friends I've known for years I put very little effort into maintaining the friendship.

With regards to time I don't have much to spare if I take away the things that are actually important to me - university work, and sleep. It's not like I play video games or anything during term time, as I only bring a laptop that's incapable of running games with me. In terms of cooking I hate doing it and avoid it whenever possible, and I'll sometimes skip meals if I don't have the energy to deal with all the faffing about. Its not like I'm missing out on much though as I have a sensory sensitivity to texture that means I don't enjoy most foods.

Although I'm sexually attracted to women I don't have much interest in actually having sex, so that doesn't really drive me.

With regards to learning about relationships I personally hate the idea of doing all the things you talk about. My anxiety would be through the roof, and even discounting that the majority of people irritate me so I wouldn't enjoy it. I don't really care about having personal anecdotes either as dislike talking about myself or my life.

Fortunately the fields that I'm looking at after graduating are very male-heavy so I don't have to worry too much about man-to-woman social skills. Also I'm not planning on doing anything that involves making sales or smoothtalking executives - that can be left to conceited business graduates.

Reply 15

I've also never had most of that, at least not in a pleasant way, and ngl 80% of my friends have never been in a relationship. Overrated much. I know so many people so obsessed with it and I used to be too but honestly the only thing that's making it depressing is urself. Enjoy single life, find happiness in friendships, find comfort within urself, romantic relationships aren't for everyone and it's okay. U can't rush important things. If ur not actually ready for it, forcing urself will only end up hurting both of u. And besides, I think it's kinda cute when someone's so new to all of it. Just chill :smile:

Reply 16

Original post by Anonymous
Expensive or cheap gifts or dates or whatever, it's still an expense at the end of the day, both in terms of time, and money (besides I don't really cook for myself right now anyway lol). Besides that nothing there really makes it seem worth it to me. Can't really see how learning about relationships can be fun, for me it just seems too stressful. And don't you have to be years into a relationship for things like sex to even come up? Even then I can't see it being worth the bother.


I made love with my girlfriend at the end of the first day that I met her. It was a wonderful day for me. And good enough for her to motivate her to come back for more.

I felt excitement en route to meet her. Not stress. And when I met her it was a case of feeling relief that she turned up, followed by a mixture of contentment, curiosity, amusement as the day went on.

If you want to stay single, that's fine by me. It's a perfectly valid life choice.

Original post by Anonymous
I'm not the original poster but I'll answer anyway since I'm pretty similar.

I guess that buying things in larger quantities would make it cheaper per person, but depending on how much your partner contributes it might work out more expensive for you personally. Either way it's a moot point since I'm pretty comfortable with regards to money.

If being a provider isn't desirable then I'm completely out of luck. I'd be emotionally unavailable and would make a terrible lover; even with friends I've known for years I put very little effort into maintaining the friendship.

With regards to time I don't have much to spare if I take away the things that are actually important to me - university work, and sleep. It's not like I play video games or anything during term time, as I only bring a laptop that's incapable of running games with me. In terms of cooking I hate doing it and avoid it whenever possible, and I'll sometimes skip meals if I don't have the energy to deal with all the faffing about. Its not like I'm missing out on much though as I have a sensory sensitivity to texture that means I don't enjoy most foods.

Although I'm sexually attracted to women I don't have much interest in actually having sex, so that doesn't really drive me.

With regards to learning about relationships I personally hate the idea of doing all the things you talk about. My anxiety would be through the roof, and even discounting that the majority of people irritate me so I wouldn't enjoy it. I don't really care about having personal anecdotes either as dislike talking about myself or my life.

Fortunately the fields that I'm looking at after graduating are very male-heavy so I don't have to worry too much about man-to-woman social skills. Also I'm not planning on doing anything that involves making sales or smoothtalking executives - that can be left to conceited business graduates.


Placing a high value on your time is an attractive trait. Bonus points for valuing your sexual partner's time highly too.

I personally don't like it when less competent people are running a company because they have the best social skills. Whilst more competent people stay in the lower ranks because they lack social skills and are socially anxious at work. Sadly, there are too many organisations that fit this description.

Reply 17

Original post by Anonymous
I'm not the original poster but I'll answer anyway since I'm pretty similar.

I guess that buying things in larger quantities would make it cheaper per person, but depending on how much your partner contributes it might work out more expensive for you personally. Either way it's a moot point since I'm pretty comfortable with regards to money.

If being a provider isn't desirable then I'm completely out of luck. I'd be emotionally unavailable and would make a terrible lover; even with friends I've known for years I put very little effort into maintaining the friendship.

With regards to time I don't have much to spare if I take away the things that are actually important to me - university work, and sleep. It's not like I play video games or anything during term time, as I only bring a laptop that's incapable of running games with me. In terms of cooking I hate doing it and avoid it whenever possible, and I'll sometimes skip meals if I don't have the energy to deal with all the faffing about. Its not like I'm missing out on much though as I have a sensory sensitivity to texture that means I don't enjoy most foods.

Although I'm sexually attracted to women I don't have much interest in actually having sex, so that doesn't really drive me.

With regards to learning about relationships I personally hate the idea of doing all the things you talk about. My anxiety would be through the roof, and even discounting that the majority of people irritate me so I wouldn't enjoy it. I don't really care about having personal anecdotes either as dislike talking about myself or my life.

Fortunately the fields that I'm looking at after graduating are very male-heavy so I don't have to worry too much about man-to-woman social skills. Also I'm not planning on doing anything that involves making sales or smoothtalking executives - that can be left to conceited business graduates.

Always trust your gut instinct and listen to what your common sense is telling you. :smile:
It sounds like you have other ambitions and personal priorities that mean you wouldn't be suited to an intimate or long term relationship.
Little interest in sexual activity, emotionally unavailable, no time for a relationship or interest in acquiring any relationship experience.
It's great that you know that you wouldn't gain much from a relationship nor contribute anything positive beyond gifts or the financial.

Don't listen to anyone that tries to change you mind.
Nor plays matchmaker or attempts to convince you that you need a partner and children to look after you in old age.
Good luck!

Reply 18

It's more fun with another person... if it is the right person.

The challenge is that a lot of peoples' aspirations are dropping. Among other things, people are having kids less often, divorcing more, sleeping around more, etc. So in that light... relationships are pointless, because there's a lot of driftwood out there and people who haven't a clue wtf they want or what they're doing with themselves.

But there are some that are different. You can tell, because these people tend to be a lot more decisive and consistent. I don't mean 'impulsive decisive'. I instead mean the types of people that decisively start something, and then also finish what they started, instead of getting "bored" and switching up partners because of it.

Some people also trick their own ego into thinking that they are 'decisive' just because they make quick and abrupt decisions, despite them changing their mind every other day about it afterwards... which is obviously the opposite of 'decisive'. Maybe they are 'assertive', but certainly not 'decisive'. That's like having an apparently 'strong opinion' about something, but changing your mind about it every day. Hardly worth taking seriously. And they're absolutely no fun to be in a relationship with, just a total liability on your time and effort.
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Reply 19

OP I'm in the same boat as you. Turning to 21 this October and had zero experience in relationship with any girl. I have gynephobia caused by the unpleasant memory of being bullied and mocked by some girls in my class during primary school,which ruined my ability to communicate with girls because I was too sensitive. What's worse, I also have social anxiety. I avoid interacting with strangers so I even have no idea where I can go to find a girl. The idea of going to bars and approaching them by striking a conversation is just ******** for me. I even don't have any female friends that means I almost completely lose the connection with female group (except for my female family members). I've never tried chasing girls cuz I feel like there is no point of doing it. As regards children, I think earth is going to be over populated very soon. So, having no children, to a large extent, is a kind of contribution to reducing population as well as pollution.

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