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    In our society, the point of life is to prepare for work in childhood, work as slaves until we're worn down as adults, and rot in a forgotten home as elderly.

    I envy religious people in a way, the prospect of eternal heaven and paradise after death must keep them blissfully sane during all of this.
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    There is no point. We are matter that has evolved to point where we developed reason and any notion of "meaning" is merely a logical evaluation that we made up. Meaning came after consciousness not before, hence how can there be meaning to life if conciousness is a product of the beginning.
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    (Original post by ThatNorthernLad)
    In our society, the point of life is to prepare for work in childhood, work as slaves until we're worn down as adults, and rot in a forgotten home as elderly.
    It's actually possible to become financially independent quite early in life. It's our consumer culture that makes so many people unhealthy, unhappy and retire later.
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    (Original post by Sarahl89)
    Does there have to be a point? We're all here whether theres a point or not - lets make the best of it.. enjoy life, and make the world a nice place for others to enjoy aswell.. as for morals, i don't see what on earth they even have to do with religion or there being a point to life, you can be an atheist AND a good person aswell! shock horror! so i don't believe in God or heaven or hell, i still want to enjoy my life, still love my friends & family and appreciate the natural beauty and how amazingly and cleverly evolved the world is and do what i can to help other people on the planet.. i don't see why anyone would need the incentive of a nice cushy cloud to sit on after they die to do any of that..
    I do not want to be a "good" person. I want to be a noble person.
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    Nihilism is alright for some, but for others, like me, it degrades and makes petty life. We must learn to say a great Yes to life, to choose our own values and not assume that the great hand of rational objectivity will hand over to us some precious tablets with a law code inscribed. We must come armed, armed with a sword to cut down the father figure who imposes values, who defines values, who IS all thoughts and all values, and who decries thinking itself as a mortal sin. We must come out from under the shadow of the almighty, omnipresent, omnibenevolent father, out of the care and nurture of an over-protective mother, and face this life's dangerous, trials and tribulations, embracing them all as part of a world experience, and not seeking to project our sorrows and bitterness onto a metaphysical being, for that will provide us with no release other than the release found in servitude and in pessimism.

    It is only in the fertile breeding grounds of nihilism that ideas like pessimism and socialism can sprout. When humanity looks back on how far it has come, we assume we are at a tipping point, an "end of history" as it were. We look back on the prosperity and comfort we have achieved over the years and think, what is the use in striving? What is the point in searching for MORE? We have reached the end, let us at least take the strife and the adventure out of life. And so we set out to do just that. We become Last Men, seeking only pleasure, comfort, protection from danger. With this comes the rise of the state, the expansion of government, the officiousness of politicians who claim they are only doing what is best for us, only acceding to our demands for maximum protection from the world, from poverty, from want, from need.

    And so life becomes one, dull slog. There is no need to strive. Great men are seen as evil - noble men as seen as coarse. Better, far better, to make life so EASY for as many people as possible. Without a noble caste, without a cliche of "great men" who strive, there is no need for the rest of humanity to strive, and so all of humanity becomes mediocre and unassuming. The balance of our human stock becomes, in effect, worthless.
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    Nobody know's everyone has their own interpretation, to me I believe there is no point at all, at one point everything will come to an end so everything we did leading to it was pointless.
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    Life is a tight rope for the majority of us, we have a job go to work pay the mortgage/rent. If we lose our job we suddenly fall of the tightrope. Do we all have enough money in the bank to cover the costs?

    The benefit system makes no allowance for those that have paid in all their lives, and those that have contributed sweet FA.

    IF we make it retirement age without a hitch, will our pension be worth anything? Bear in mind the tax man has his cut! (born free taxed to death) If we are lucky enough to own our own home, we will need to sell it fund our nursing home care.

    So I question what is the point?

    I don't have kids, and to be honest I would not bring children into this unforgiving world.

    ................................ ............just my opinion!!
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    To survive to the age of reproduction, pass on beneficial genes, then aid the survival of the species.

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    (Original post by lazzarus)
    You also must admit that this is no substitute to an after life, are the happiest people not the religious?
    Seriously?
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    The point of life is whatever we want it to be. You could say that our purpose is to reproduce and thus continue the species. However, since we have a higher level of intelligence than animals, we can choose to reject that purpose and substitute something different. For example, I love learning new things, (about certain subjects) so I can continue to do this, and it makes me happy.
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    (Original post by Dr Alcoholic)
    There is no point. We are matter that has evolved to point where we developed reason and any notion of "meaning" is merely a logical evaluation that we made up. Meaning came after consciousness not before, hence how can there be meaning to life if conciousness is a product of the beginning.
    On an objective level, I agree with this view. Life is essentially a fluke, and with respect to the wider universe, serves no purpose at all. Our presence is irrelevant.

    However, given we exist, I think we can to an extent define some sort of 'goal' or 'point' for the human race. Naturally, as a physicist, I'd be inclined for that ambition to be the pursuit of knowledge pertaining to the universe that we find ourselves in, if only to preserve our essentially insignificant existence for a while longer.
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    Something. Anything. Find SOMETHING to give meaning to your life. Nihilism is not an option. There are millions upon millions of people who are six foot beneath the ground as of now, and deserve life much more than you ever would if you are going to waste it.
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    (Original post by The Dictator)
    Something. Anything. Find SOMETHING to give meaning to your life. Nihilism is not an option. There are millions upon millions of people who are six foot beneath the ground as of now, and deserve life much more than you ever would if you are going to waste it.
    I wish i could trade with them people that are 6 foot under tbh.

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    People seem to have trouble with the idea that there is no really point to life. After all would you ask what the purpose of a mountain is? Or the purpose of the sea? They just exist, just as we do. The problem with this is when we live our lives we feel as though they should mean something, as though we should have some ultimate purpose, something to work for and to. Some framework for us to direct our lives. For this reason I think religion is so attractive to people because it gives people an easy way out. However, in order to really deal with this I think we each have to make hard decisions about what we want our lives to be for. Do we want to live them purely for pleasure? If so what kind? Do we want to live them to leave some lasting legacy, or improve the lives of other? All of these are equally valid I think, and the fact that there is no universal reason which points to one or another seems to make people uncomfortable. Instead, the only way forward is to confront these problems, and despite the difficulties try and decide what exactly it is you want to make your life about.
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    Why does there have to be a point? Assigning meaning to everything we think is important is a natural part of mankinds evolution. When we deem something important (like our existence) we try to place a meaning on it to better understand it. We, for quite obvious reasons, have an issue with something being so incredibly important (our existence) not having a meaning that we try to convince ourselves that there must be some sort of meaning.

    If you're looking for meaning in something, change the way you ask the question.

    Why do we exist?
    How do we exist?

    Replacing why with how removes the philosophical aspect of the question.
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    I don't think that there is a point, especially when you look at how small the human species is with regard to the whole universe. From an evolutionary standpoint, our purpose is simply to reproduce and pass on genes although our advances have led our lives being a lot longer than necessary.
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    The point of life is to procreate and survive simple!

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    Perhaps you should phrase the question; what, then, is the point of your life? There are many different answers depending on the individual athiest. The most basic point would be to experience your own life, to treat it with the respect and dignity it commands and recognise that beyond the end of your life there is no further opportunity.
    Then, what happens now and the way you react to your surroundings will influence others and there is a lot of inequality and unfairness on the planet. That could be your personal goal. Making sure that others are free to experience their life, to the fullness of it, without subjugation or oppression. Moral behaviour can be practised without basis in religion. All humanist acts are by definition moral. In a utopian future where all individuals can live their lives free from oppression, religious extremism, financial pressures and exploitation, maybe then we can be free to ask what is the meaning of our existence or maybe then we'll be satisfied enough with our own existence.
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    That age of existential crisis haha
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    ...We, humans not "intelligent enough" to understand why we here and why we live, we just baby in our universe, intelligent live in universe is much bigger picture and we just can't understand, we just not there yet. I do know we have purpose of life like humans like intelligent spices (basic intelligent spices), only you can understand reason of life if you believe intelligent live after life in different for/or dimensions/universe/ reincarnation, you consciousness continues go there or next experience of next life energy offer...

    Human design for purpose, (your or my design maybe just open door for somebody in time/place in life or just drive to somebody to somewhere, or be somebody and do something, maybe noting mining to you but it's mining for big picture what maybe not make any cent to you or me...)

    Only time you be understand why you here and where you go, only when you die...
 
 
 
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