The Liverpool FC Thread XVII

Could see that coming right through that whole sequence of events.

Gomez turning his back on the ball is criminal.

Gomez needs to leave.

The new 4 year deal was another symptom of the nonsense ‘loyalty’ cost programme we have been dealing in. He hasn’t got any knees, his concentration has gone but we kept him out of some ridiculous concept of loyalty for a player who can’t repay in ability.

The new 4 year deal was another symptom of the nonsense ‘loyalty’ cost programme we have been dealing in. He hasn’t got any knees, his concentration has gone but we kept him out of some ridiculous concept of loyalty for a player who can’t repay in ability.

Don't get why you didn't bomb him to Villa when you had the chance.

I think the only thing I could say is for depth due to CB injuries he may have been useful, but he's not a starter for you guys.

5-2 😂😂😂

They didn't let that 4-0 slide and now you've become their whipping boys like Salah Vs Norwich.

Definitely expect some cuckoldry again.

The new 4 year deal was another symptom of the nonsense ‘loyalty’ cost programme we have been dealing in. He hasn’t got any knees, his concentration has gone but we kept him out of some ridiculous concept of loyalty for a player who can’t repay in ability.

Klopp struggles to explain

https://youtu.be/uGwKt7FHF3w

Let me help. His team were statuesque in defence, not marking anyone, like a table- football team

I think more to do with that he knows the club / doesn't ask for a lot of money / doesnt kick up a fuss when not playing / is homegrown

Explain Nat Phillips and Gomez still being at the club?

Both homegrown, both on wages which are not huge. Gomez only playing as Matip and Konate both injured at the moment otherwise he should be 4th choice.

I presume big Nat has some saucy blackmail material on Klopp or the CEO otherwise why/how hasn't he been sold?

Also the club are too cheap to buy another decent CB. Look at the lack of investment:

Konate - summer 2021 for 40mil (after we played a season with 3 CBs and they all got injured)
Kabak - loan signing Jan 2021
Ben Davies - who? signed Jan 2021 and didn't play at all before being sold
Van Dijk - signed Jan 2018 for record fee
Klavan - £5mil in summer 2016
Matip - free signing in summer 2016

I mean that is literally all the CBs we've signed in like 7 years. Chelsea bought more CBs than that in 6 months.

I guess part of it is Klopp not actually having any money to do what he wants.

Madrid will find a way to jam you guys again but will be interesting.

Maybe that held water early on in Klopp's tenure but we make so much in revenues now. Klopp has managed CL football in every season except his first 1.5 years. We're reached 3 CL finals and a EL final. Commercial revenues are the highest they have been.

Not sure why we don't have money to spend. I'm not expecting Boehly levels of investment but we spend like we're poorer than Everton.

It's a combination of a high wage bill (wasted on injury prone players) and paying back the loan from FSG for the stadium expansion and new training ground. Basically there isn't much cash flow to fund new signings unless we sell players or FSG loan the club more money which they don't want to do. Hence why FSG are seeking investment for the club.

It's not like we have tons of players on huge wages that we want to get rid off. Yes we have a few players who could be moved on but even the squad players have done well in moments when called on, even if not consistently. Last season we play every game in the season because the whole squad contributed.

Sure we have a high wage bill but revenues keep climbing too. I don't think it's a high % of wages to turnover as a ratio.

The FSG loans were interest free so it's not a huge expense. The stadium expansions (various stages) pays itself back as we make higher revenues from the stadium now (first time we made over £100mil I think?)

Yes the AXA Training will need to be paid off as not revenue generating but no doubt an investment into the infrastructure of the club.

I'm not even convinced FSG are looking for investment for the club? They sold that stake in FSG to Redbird a while back (obviously higher up and covered all their sports investments, not just LFC). I think it's just risk management for them. Earn back money over and above the initial investment all those years ago and keep trying to create value.

Personally I think they saw the numbers for the distressed Chelsea sale and their eyes lit up and they thought they could get a big chunky price (no forced sale, bigger global brand etc). Seems like the Man Utd sale has attracted more attention and probably put a dampener on what they hoped to get for LFC.