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Oxford PPE Average Offer

Hey!

I was looking at the Oxford PPE course to find that the entry requirement is AAA.

I'm aware that PPE at Oxford is a ridiculously competitive course to get into, so was wondering what the average offer would be?

Does Oxford give priority to those with 3 A*s over those with 3 As?

Thanks in advance for any info!
You may find this freedom of information request interesting.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/oxford_ppe_2021_entry_admission
Reply 2
Original post by SpiderCrab
You may find this freedom of information request interesting.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/oxford_ppe_2021_entry_admission


Thank you!
The average offer will be AAA. The issue isn't in meeting an offer (almost everyone who gets an Oxford offer meets it) it's in getting one at all.

Loads of people who are predicted A*A*A* won't get an offer - they basically only make the same number of offers as there are places. No, people who are predicted A*A*A* don't have an advantage over people who aren't, not least because some schools are a whole lot less skilled/honest (take your pick) when it comes to making predictions than others.
Reply 4
Original post by skylark2
The average offer will be AAA. The issue isn't in meeting an offer (almost everyone who gets an Oxford offer meets it) it's in getting one at all.

Loads of people who are predicted A*A*A* won't get an offer - they basically only make the same number of offers as there are places. No, people who are predicted A*A*A* don't have an advantage over people who aren't, not least because some schools are a whole lot less skilled/honest (take your pick) when it comes to making predictions than others.


Thanks for your message - how about achieved grades as opposed to predicted grades?
Original post by .N.A.
Thanks for your message - how about achieved grades as opposed to predicted grades?


You'll need to look at the statistics you were pointed at to see if it makes any difference. In practice the TSA and interview performance will be such a big factor that the tiny differences between, say, A*A*A* and A*A*A will probably not be a factor.

If what you're actually asking is "my achieved grades are above AAA but not A*A*A*, have I got zero chance?" then the answer is that you have basically the same chance of getting an interview as everyone else who does as well as you in the TSA, and if you get through that then the interview comes into play as well.
Reply 6
Original post by SpiderCrab
You may find this freedom of information request interesting.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/oxford_ppe_2021_entry_admission


I'm a bit confused because I feel like the data in this link:
https://www.ppe.ox.ac.uk/files/ppeadmissions2020-21informationforapplicantsfinalv2pdf

contradicts the whatdotheyknow info request (in terms of number of students shortlisted/interviewed) :eek:
Original post by .N.A.
I'm a bit confused because I feel like the data in this link:
https://www.ppe.ox.ac.uk/files/ppeadmissions2020-21informationforapplicantsfinalv2pdf

contradicts the whatdotheyknow info request (in terms of number of students shortlisted/interviewed) :eek:


708 shortlisted, 257 offered places in both sources - what do you think the contradiction is?
Reply 8
Original post by skylark2
708 shortlisted, 257 offered places in both sources - what do you think the contradiction is?


Sorry if I'm being plain silly and am misinterpreting the data :s-smilie:

The 'Predicted or achieved A Levels grades: A* count' graph in
https://www.ppe.ox.ac.uk/files/ppeadmissions2020-21informationforapplicantsfinalv2pdf

shows that around 10ish people with one A* was interviewed and/or given an offer.

But in
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/oxford_ppe_2021_entry_admission

it says around 80 people with one A* (61 predicted + 17 achieved) was interviewed, right at the bottom of the document.
I see what you mean.

I have no explanation, but my gut feeling would be that the graph is wrong - because as presented, what it says is that nobody applied with predictions or achieved grades of AAA. Nobody. Not even one. That seems unlikely.
Reply 10
Original post by skylark2
I see what you mean.

I have no explanation, but my gut feeling would be that the graph is wrong - because as presented, what it says is that nobody applied with predictions or achieved grades of AAA. Nobody. Not even one. That seems unlikely.


What do you make of this one?

https://www.ppe.ox.ac.uk/files/ppeadmissions2021-22informationforapplicantsfinalpdf

It seems similar :frown:
Well, one of them must be wrong. I'm not sure what difference it makes to you, though - what you need to be taking away from those graphs is that everyone's chance of getting in is small regardless of how brilliant their A levels are. You are, however, pretty much guaranteed an interview if you do brilliantly on the TSA, and your chance of a place is also relatively high then. I'd suggest you focus on that rather than on a ship which has sailed.

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