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    is ought gap.

    We should be kind to one another, not mean to one another, regardless of gender. We shouldn't bottle people. As was mentioned above, and also mentioned, it never existed. Armies would attack the other armies, but if on foreign land, would then rape and destroy what they wanted. What's chivalrous about that?

    Woman aren't equal in today's society, it's still evening out. Women are seen a lot more as sexual objects than men are, and that's just one example. in that example we can see things like, advertising, porn, and most worryingly, rape. I'm pretty sure it's something stupid like over 50% of female rape victims don't want to go to the police because they feel they wouldn't get anywhere.

    The most ironic place in our "civilised" society would be Alaska, when Palin was (still is?) governor. One of the more wealthy states, and what did she do, "rape victims must pay for the examination to test if they are raped". Talk about unfair, you get raped, then have to pay thousands of $$$ to get tested, hardly the nicest examination in the world, to prove that you were raped.

    Or how about cases where the woman was "asking for it" by wearing a short skirt. I don't know of any similar examples off the top of my head about men being treated as such to the same extent. But then, we don't live in a utopia do we? Society is allegedly better than it once was. Like the slave trade has been abolished in our society, not all societies, but ours, so ours is less barbaric...
    ...aside from, it is still very much apart of it, from where you buy your chocolate, to your clothes, it's not any less barbaric, it's just we're led to believe (mainly by big business and government) that it is.

    So, how much does it cost to be nice? how much does it cost to just have the manners? for both men and women. If I'm being attacked, I'll fight back, regardless of gender. If I see someone being attacked, I hope (but don't know) that I'll intervene and not be cowardly, regardless of gender. I'd like to believe that slavery isn't real, or is in the past, and that sexism isn't part of our society, but personally, I can't.

    To bring it back to the first sentence, good manners from both genders) should happen, but it doesn't mean it will happen. Slavery shouldn't happen, but it does. There is a gap between what should and what does happen.

    Sorry for the long winded rant, if you read it, I hope you feel it was worth it, but it's just me letting off steam I guess.
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    I know, alenax. I was saying "you" as in "one".
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    While I dislike the notion that a woman can kick and punch a male and the male isn't (morally) allowed to hit her back, I would like to see it change. You can't be equal in some areas and not in others.

    However, I'd never hit a girl. I'd be ashamed of myself. I guess i'm a bit hypocritical haha.
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    (Original post by snipex)
    While I dislike the notion that a woman can kick and punch a male and the male isn't (morally) allowed to hit her back, I would like to see it change. You can't be equal in some areas and not in others.

    However, I'd never hit a girl.
    a girl shoots you in the penis, hits you on the head with a crow bar, and is about to kill everyone you love, only *you* can stop her...

    ...
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Im sorry if I come across as being mysognist (sp?) but its a issue which I feel should have been brought up in the thread about what to do if your girl friend is attacked.

    We are bombarded all the time that we are all equal blah blah blah, men + woman. Lots of old age things have gone, but a woman STILL expects a bloke to defend her, or not to punch a woman.

    Wtf? Sure if its a relative/gf/spouse by all means defend or you are a prick, but thats nothing to do with gender. Thats protecting ones you love.

    But protecting woman (or not hitting them for that matter), Why?

    Why can you bottle a bloke and not a girl? Last time I looked they can both be as annoying and offensive as each other.


    Just curious to hear your opinion :o:
    Lol, you're clearly quite the catch. If you have to ask the question...
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    (Original post by onthejubileeline)
    Lol, you're clearly quite the catch. If you have to ask the question...
    yes. clearly a catch, everyone loves a man who bottles another man
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    I remember reading a thread earlier about a woman here who keeps slapping her boyfriend; the boyfriend supposedly would just take it. See, if a girl slapped you/hit you, I wouldn't it hold it against the guy to say 'first one's free. Next time you do it, I'll show you what 'true equality' really means.'

    So yes, if a girl is hitting you more than once, then feel free to punch her out; will teach her not to provoke people.
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    (Original post by Desert_Roach)
    I remember reading a thread earlier about a woman here who keeps slapping her boyfriend; the boyfriend supposedly would just take it.
    I read that with a bad mind at first...
    ...then I remembered the thread title.
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    (Original post by willpbuck)
    They also carry children so are needed for the human race.
    So men aren't needed to continue the human race. :rolleyes:
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    How do I say this? I am very unlikely to hit a woman in real life. However, I have no 'moral' objection to hitting her over and above that I have about hitting men. If I'm getting assaulted, I'm hitting right back regardless of whether the assailant is male or female and I think it's silly to diffrentiate based on gender here. Of course if I CAN control said person then I will try and do so but in my mind there is no point risking injury for some ephemeral idea of 'morality'.

    This is coming from a guy who is perfectly happy to give up his coat, hold open doors etc. The point is I can be nice without being 'weak', though it's obviously something a lot of guys suffer with nowerdays. The line is hard to straddle and whatnot.
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    (Original post by mollymustard)
    Women carry and mother children, so its necessary to show them respect. They need protecting in the fact that its easy for them to be taken advantage of, in a physical and non-literal sense.

    I'd like to believe that men and women are equal, but that is not the case and chivelry is necessary to bridge the gap between the sexes.
    Its clearly dying out. I've been at Uni for 6 weeks and not one guy has ever offered to make me a cup of tea and I've been slapped by guys twice.
    Erm, wtf?! Why?
    Also, no one has offered you tea?!!! :woo: That's worse than the slappings! :eek: :no:
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    (Original post by Anonymous)

    Why can you bottle a bloke and not a girl? Last time I looked they can both be as annoying and offensive as each other.


    Just curious to hear your opinion :o:
    im pretty sure you can't do that. the police tend to frown on it.
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    I believe I'm chivalrous. I offer to buy girls drinks, hold doors open for them, walk them to bus stops and stay with them til their bus arrives, etc, etc.

    However, most of them just find it irritating. It's as if they think I think they aren't capable of doing anything themselves, which is most certainly not the case.
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    (Original post by Planto)
    Sigh. It is necessary because women are naturally physically weaker than men. The end.

    Equality can only stretch so far. There are differences between genders. That's why there's a distinction.
    and because you're likely to end up alone if you refuse to go out of your way for women while other guys do.
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    (Original post by Mattaf)
    I believe I'm chivalrous. I offer to buy girls drinks, hold doors open for them, walk them to bus stops and stay with them til their bus arrives, etc, etc.

    However, most of them just find it irritating. It's as if they think I think they aren't capable of doing anything themselves, which is most certainly not the case.
    I think I do it almost as much as when with male friends, or at least used to. I had just as much concern ,but usually they were **** faced. I stopped hanging out with most of them for that reason.
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    **** me
    some women are dangerous man, have you even seen Rush Hour 3

    lol
    no I think chivalry is dead tbh, but I know some people who think chivalry is outdated, but most women need protection full stop
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    Nice guys always end up last
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    (Original post by itsmyname)
    Nice guys always end up last
    what's wrong with finishing last? can't you be happy and last? I can't wait to finish after all the not nice guys, at least I'd be alive, and they'd be, well, finished
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    (Original post by RJ555)
    Really?! But I thought women had higher fat percentages then men (no offence) so surely that would keep them warmer than muscle? :confused:
    Exactly what I said! But I got told about it when buying a new sleeping bag ... apparently sleeping bag extreme temperatures/thermal clothes are always tested with women in mind, because they feel the cold more.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle5106854.ece
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    (Original post by mollymustard)
    I'd like to believe that men and women are equal, but that is not the case and chivelry is necessary to bridge the gap between the sexes.
    Its clearly dying out. I've been at Uni for 6 weeks and not one guy has ever offered to make me a cup of tea and I've been slapped by guys twice.
    Do as Jesus would; turn the other cheek.
 
 
 
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