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  • View Poll Results: Which uni in the UK has the strongest maths department outside Oxbridge?
    Imperial
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    Warwick
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    (Original post by angelafleming)
    No, but isn't mathematics a natural science?
    No.
    Natural Science= physical sciences as far as I'm aware. SOME Nat Sci courses do allow maths and also non-science subjects, but that's course specific and it does not mean they are 'natural sciences'.
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    (Original post by SimonM)
    No, and before you start quoting rankings, it might be prudent to learn how they work (or don't)
    Says the person going to Cambridge. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Dan?)
    On-topic: So Warwick's Maths course is more challenging than Oxford's?
    Not necessarily. The beauty of the tutorial system means that the university is far more capable to stretch the top students.
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    Not necessarily. The beauty of the tutorial system means that the university is far more capable to stretch the top students.
    Most university for maths have a tutorial system.

    Bristol, Manchester, York, Durham, Bath,,, e.t.c. have a tutorial system.

    To anwser the OP questions, I would look at the modules they have and see if you like it, some university have alot of applied and little pure, or teach analysis in the second year and the first year is just further maths.
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    (Original post by angelafleming)
    Says the person going to Cambridge. :rolleyes:
    I don't see how that is relevant. It's only relevant if you make unwarranted, fanciful assumptions.

    Anyway, it seems too obvious to mention, but where is best for you to study maths in the UK depends on your ability, your interests and your personal preferences. Course content therefore plays a part. However, if you actually had any idea of how league tables work, you would realize that they are shoddily compiled, often by non-specialists, and use an entirely subjective criteria weighting. They should be treated with extreme caution, if not rejected automatically. That you seem to consider them worthy of reference, without any idea of how they work, is absolutely absurd. Engage your brain, for ****'s sake.
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    (Original post by Kolya)
    I don't see how that is relevant. It's only relevant if you make unwarranted, fanciful assumptions.

    Anyway, it seems too obvious to mention, but where is best for you to study maths in the UK depends on your ability, your interests and your personal preferences. Course content therefore plays a part. However, if you actually had any idea of how league tables work, you would realize that they are shoddily compiled, often by non-specialists, and use an entirely subjective criteria weighting. They should be treated with extreme caution, if not rejected automatically. That you seem to consider them worthy of reference, without any idea of how they work, is absolutely absurd. Engage your brain, for ****'s sake.
    Great post, and I'm liking the David Mond reference!
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    (Original post by Krush)
    Great post, and I'm liking the David Mond reference!
    I wasn't actually making a conscious Mond reference, but it's possible I was subconsciously referring to the great man...
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    MrShifty's fail safe step by step method for choosing a university for a maths degree:

    1. Go through all the league tables you can possibly find, then throw them away because most are based on inaccurate, irrelevant and/or outdated data and are compiled by non-specialists working under some very dodgy assumptions regarding what does and doesn't indicate quality.

    2. Go through module lists, then ignore them because they're a notoriously poor resource when it comes to accurately evaluating the content and actual difficulty of a course.

    3. Go through past papers, then promptly set them on fire and hurl them out the window because:

    a. at this stage you're not fully qualified to assess what they mean.

    b. you have no idea of how weighting and grading curves may differ between different papers at different institutions.

    FINALLY:

    4. Get a piece of chalk and draw a massive grid on the road, with the names of different universities written in each square. Then gather up five dogs, get them really, really drunk and set them stumbling around said grid. Where ever the dogs happen to eventually pass out or otherwise settle, those are the bestestmost universities ever that you should apply for.
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    (Original post by Hancock orbital)
    Cambridge and Warwick have a very similar maths course - both are top.
    Ur, what? Warwick's first year gives you 25% choice in your modules in which you can do courses outside of mathematics if you want (and to give an extreme example, even history, as pointed out in an open day). I'm fairly certain this is nothing like Cambridge. And you get more and more choice as you progress.

    This is followed by Oxford - there is a noticeable gap.

    Then a very big gap to Imperial, UCL.
    What "gap" are you referring to? Gap between toughness or what? If toughness then I'd disagree.
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    After Cambridge, which are the best UK unis for maths? (Don't say Oxford because I can't apply there, having already applied to Cambridge.)
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    I guess it would be smth like Imperial and Warwick
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    You have to be insane not to include Oxford on that list
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    (Original post by SimonM)
    You have to be insane not to include Oxford on that list
    No. I just got rejected without interview from Cambridge and I need to know which others to apply to, Oxford not being an option.
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    (Original post by SimonM)
    You have to be insane not to include Oxford on that list
    Note that the OP asks not to include Oxford, as she can't apply there. Otherwise, of course it is in the list - I guess just after Cambridge
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    (Original post by angelafleming)
    No. I just got rejected without interview from Cambridge and I need to know which others to apply to, Oxford not being an option.
    There are other universities - I think warwick is pretty good.
    Any reason for being rejected without interview?
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    I guess for Maths, Oxbridge = Imperial = Warwick > UCL
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    (Original post by angelafleming)
    I just got rejected without interview from Cambridge .
    Ouch, that's rather harsh. I was expecting you to get in to be honest. Sorry to hear that.

    On topic: Imperial, UCL and Warwick are all excellent universities and it shouldn't really make a large difference to your education which one you go to. It's generally believed that Imperial and Warwick are better than UCL for maths. The difference between Imperial and Warwick is minute though. The main thing to consider is that they both have unique admissions policies (grades/offer wise) and that their locations are exact opposites. Warwick's course will give you more control over what you study but then this isn't necessarily a positive thing.

    Perhaps consult these:

    http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/~b...ue-tables.html

    http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/~b...udymathsuk.pdf

    *Edit*

    One more thing; if you're going to apply then do it soon. At a UCL open day last week, the admissions tutor said he's already given out 500 offers. A lot of Imperial offers have gone out (not sure about numbers) and some Warwick ones have as well.
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    (Original post by angelafleming)
    I'm an Indian and Cambridge is racist.
    Um, I doubt that. It's probably more to do with you being an international student (this is different to you being Indian and also to Cambridge being racist).
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    (Original post by BadExaminee)
    I guess for Maths, Oxbridge = Imperial = Warwick > UCL
    Thanks!
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    (Original post by Swayum)
    It's probably more to do with you being an international student
    How so? I'm just as good at maths as any top A level student (if not better!).
 
 
 
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