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"The goal of the Islamic Resistance Movement is to implement Allah's promise, whatever time that may take.
where does this statement say in the qur'an or the hadeeth? if it is not in both of those it is something mankind has created....faulsehood!..Hamas aim is to get rid of Jews off their lands....the only way is force as the jews are not willing to compromise...do you suggest they give up? lose all their land? and yes the land does belong to the palistinians
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/952600.stm

I guess that you will find a good source the BBC ...
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this thread is disturbing and laughable.

eternal idol, would you say the israeli forces are acting like terrorists?
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(Original post by Repentance)
where does this statement say in the qur'an or the hadeeth? if it is not in both of those it is something mankind has created....faulsehood!..Hamas aim is to get rid of Jews off their lands....the only way is force as the jews are not willing to compromise...do you suggest they give up? lose all their land? and yes the land does belong to the palistinians
land belongs to whoevers on it.
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eternal idol, would you say the israeli forces are acting like terrorists?
Have you seen the film? Draw your own conclusions.
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(Original post by vienna95)
Do the military actions of the Israeli army determine whether Hamas' actions are terrorism or not?
Vienna - "...read my comments to which you replied."

That's all I have to say.
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Israel is fighting to defend its people and the right to exist. Do you believe this is the wrong cause? If you dont believe this is the cause of Israel, feel free to provide your own.
Israel is founded on and around land that is primarily populated by Muslims/Arabs. Surely then, Britain and the UN had no right to attempt to make the area a "Jewish homeland", it was not there land. To defend its right to exist should not have happened in the first place when Jews and Arabs could have peacefully co-existed in Palestine.

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The solution is for Palestinians to have a recognised nation state.
Why do Palestinians need a recognised state. Religion should not be a factor in who owns land. I start up my own way of life, religion etc, do I merit my own recognised state?
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The State of Israel is a legitimate nation state.
why?
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(Original post by Eternal Idol)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/952600.stm

I guess that you will find a good source the BBC ...
That is appaling. The israeli forces don't even seem to admit that they were wronge. The kill and 12 year old boy and then try to blame it on the palistinian police. If it was an accident surely they should atleast admit culpability and say sorry.
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why?
Because vienna says so, silly.
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That is appaling. The israeli forces don't even seem to admit that they were wronge. The kill and 12 year old boy and then try to blame it on the palistinian police. If it was an accident surely they should atleast admit culpability and say sorry.
Forget about it, they will never admit it. That's the way it works every day.
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Have you seen the film? Draw your own conclusions.
i was asking your view.
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land belongs to whoevers on it.
Oh, so you agree that the IDS should end the occupation of Palestine?
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Oh, so you agree that the Israelis should end the occupation of Palestine?
the israeli's are on it, its theirs. so no? how you could come to any other conclusion from what i stated is beyond me.

if you apply your logic, the USA wont exist, and forget about south america, or aus/nz or just about every other country in the world.
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the israeli's are on it, its theirs. so no? how you could come to any other conclusion from what i stated is beyond me.
Call it a gift to see the truth.
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the israeli's are on it, its theirs. so no? how you could come to any other conclusion from what i stated is beyond me.
Then, if tomorrow, let's see ... mmm ... China, invades UK and kicks all the British out, the land would be theirs ... interesting ...
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i was asking your view.
My view? If Hamas is a terrorist group then the Israel government is a terrorist state too.
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the israeli's are on it, its theirs. so no? how you could come to any other conclusion from what i stated is beyond me.
you are completely missing the point.
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Then, if tomorrow, let's see ... mmm ... China, invades UK and kicks all the British out, the land would be theirs ... interesting ...
they would control it. its perfectly logical. whether i, you, or anyone else likes it is irrelevant.
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My view? If Hamas is a terrorist group then the Israel government is a terrorist state too.
you've stated you dont believe hamas to be so, therefore israel is not either?
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