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you are completely missing the point.
how so?

land changes hands all the time. the maori's once controlled NZ, and even they migrated there long ago.
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.Hamas aim is to get rid of Jews off their lands....the only way is force as the jews are not willing to compromise
What does 'Get rid of' mean?

And Arab or Muslim Israelis?

Where is the question of land suggested here? or of the State of Israel?
"The Day of Judgment will not come about until the Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them), until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! Oh Abdullah!, there is a Jew behind me, come on and kill him. Only the Gharqad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
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you've stated you dont believe hamas to be so, therefore israel is not either?
Both of none, this is a concept problem actually.
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Utterly disgusting that you cannot offer any differences between the United States and Hamas.
You've completely misread that. Deliberately or not I don't know.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/952600.stm

I guess that you will find a good source the BBC ...
A disturbing scene indeed even if we have little factual evidence surrounding how the two died or why they were there.
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well it seems theres a few people on here who support hamas and would be fine with them wiping out the israeli people as per their goals.

i say we just leave israel to destroy all palestinian areas, clean them out, kill everyone.

using the logic displayed on here, its perfectly fine, and will be applauded by those who voted no.

at the end of the day, israel is there, it isnt going to be dismantled or destroyed. the whole arab world could rise up and they'd still get their sorry ass kicked.

so do they...

a) carry on futile efforts that only come back to haunt them in vicious reprisals from israel.
or;
b) give up on destroying israel and having one big happy palestine that stretches from damascus to cairo and just accept that the best they'll get is a state along side israel?
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You've completely misread that. Deliberately or not I don't know.
How should I read it. What is the point of making a comparison between the US and Hamas without going on to draw any distinctions?
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A disturbing scene indeed even if we have little factual evidence surrounding how the two died or why they were there.
Like why the people in Madrid trains were there? Like that?

Come on!
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A disturbing scene indeed even if we have little factual evidence surrounding how the two died or why they were there.
Well its pretty obvious to me, don't know about everyone else. They were shot! Disgusting.
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Oh, so you agree that the IDS should end the occupation of Palestine?
What is the IDS?

What parts of the Palestinian region are being 'occupied' and on what reasoning do you come to that conclusion?
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How should I read it. What is the point of making a comparison between the US and Hamas without going on to draw any distinctions?
Erm no,
Is USA perfectly good?
Is Hamas totally bad?

I am sure someone of your interlect can have the time and sense to work it out, maybe if you didnt cut half of my quote off you would understand.
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i say we just leave israel to destroy all palestinian areas, clean them out, kill everyone.

using the logic displayed on here, its perfectly fine, and will be applauded by those who voted no.
Isn't it the same logic that you used to determine who owns the land?
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Erm no,
Is USA perfectly good?
Is Hamas totally bad?

I am sure someone of your interlect can have the time and sense to work it out, maybe if you didnt cut half of my quote off you would understand.
Im sure someone of your intellect can be half interest, capable and bothered to draw a distinction between Hamas and the USA. I dont believe my quotation altered the content of your post, removed any distinction you could have made or any relevance of citing the USA.
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Im sure someone of your intellect can be half interest, capable and bothered to draw a distinction between Hamas and the USA. I dont believe my quotation altered the content of your post, removed any distinction you could have made or any relevance of citing the USA.
You have completely avoided my point. So I will say again:
Is USA perfectly good?
Is Hamas totally bad?
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Like why the people in Madrid trains were there? Like that?
Come on!
The Madrid bombs were specifically designed to kill as many innocent people as possible. Even the unfortunate death of civilians at the hands of the IDF cannot define their actions to be of the same logic.
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Isn't it the same logic that you used to determine who owns the land?
indeed.

since i've got here i've said we should just leave the palestinians and the israeli's to it and see who wins.

lets just say hamas wouldnt be on the victors.
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You have completely avoided my point.
Because its a non-point and bears no obvious relation to the topic.
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The Madrid bombs were specifically designed to kill as many innocent people as possible. Even the unfortunate death of civilians at the hands of the IDF cannot define their actions to be of the same logic.
That's where I must draw the line, unfortunate? Are you a clown or what?

Shooting to two people lying in the floor shouting 'don't shoot' isn't an unfourtunate thing is a murderer.
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(Original post by vienna95)

"The Day of Judgment will not come about until the Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them), until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! Oh Abdullah!, there is a Jew behind me, come on and kill him. Only the Gharqad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

One should not quote something if they do not understand it…this has nothing to do with what is happening…it states ‘Muslims’ not Arabs…this quote is too all Muslims not just Arabs…whether they are reverts or born Muslims. muslims as united...
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That's where I must draw the line, unfortunate? Are you a clown or what?

Shooting to two people lying in the floor shouting 'don't shoot' isn't an unfourtunate thing is a murderer.
hamas is pretty good at that sort of thing too. clown.
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