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Andrew97 has done a good commentary on the Indycar race so here are a couple of thoughts about the opening Indycar NXT race from the same venue, St. Petersburg, Florida.
NXT, (which the announcers pronounced as 'Next', confusing for anyone familiar with WWE's own NXT!), is the feeder series formerly known as Indy Lights. I don't normally watch it, but was curious as I'd accidentally series linked it and this was the debut of Jamie Chadwick after dominating the W Series. I was mainly watching to see how she fared, so that is where my focus was.
This was definitely a scrappy race. A street circuit with lots of marbles and junior drivers is a recipe for an eventful race and this was no exception. Think F2 levels of wheel banging.
Chadwick qualified 18th out of 19 runners, but with it being a spec series only 8 tenths covered the entire field. She was definitely not miles off the pace.
The start was relatively clean and Chadwick made good progress and gained 2-3 places before disaster on lap 5. A crash ahead of her left her nowhere to go and her car tucked its nose under one already stuck in the tyre barrier. It took a while to recover her car whilst the safety car was out but she made it back to the pits for a nose change and to retighten her seatbelts, (she may have loosened them assuming she was not going to get going again).
She re-joined last and then circulated pretty much on the pace but between 21-24 seconds adrift hoping for another safety car. One did come which was terrific news but then she went wide and onto the marbles which were catching a lot of drivers out. She went into tyres and this called for a second nose swap.
The race itself was one of attrition, and it seemed that every time someone moved off the racing line they were at risk of losing all grip. Lots of cars ended up in the barriers, which was either fun or a bit silly depending on your POV. 14 cars came home, with Chadwick finishing 13th and one lap down. I honestly don't think she did too bad considering the two nose swaps.
Overall I enjoyed the race and it provided a lot of action in less than half the distance of the full Indycar race, (40 laps vs 100). I can recommend it if you enjoy F2.
NXT, (which the announcers pronounced as 'Next', confusing for anyone familiar with WWE's own NXT!), is the feeder series formerly known as Indy Lights. I don't normally watch it, but was curious as I'd accidentally series linked it and this was the debut of Jamie Chadwick after dominating the W Series. I was mainly watching to see how she fared, so that is where my focus was.
This was definitely a scrappy race. A street circuit with lots of marbles and junior drivers is a recipe for an eventful race and this was no exception. Think F2 levels of wheel banging.
Chadwick qualified 18th out of 19 runners, but with it being a spec series only 8 tenths covered the entire field. She was definitely not miles off the pace.
The start was relatively clean and Chadwick made good progress and gained 2-3 places before disaster on lap 5. A crash ahead of her left her nowhere to go and her car tucked its nose under one already stuck in the tyre barrier. It took a while to recover her car whilst the safety car was out but she made it back to the pits for a nose change and to retighten her seatbelts, (she may have loosened them assuming she was not going to get going again).
She re-joined last and then circulated pretty much on the pace but between 21-24 seconds adrift hoping for another safety car. One did come which was terrific news but then she went wide and onto the marbles which were catching a lot of drivers out. She went into tyres and this called for a second nose swap.
The race itself was one of attrition, and it seemed that every time someone moved off the racing line they were at risk of losing all grip. Lots of cars ended up in the barriers, which was either fun or a bit silly depending on your POV. 14 cars came home, with Chadwick finishing 13th and one lap down. I honestly don't think she did too bad considering the two nose swaps.
Overall I enjoyed the race and it provided a lot of action in less than half the distance of the full Indycar race, (40 laps vs 100). I can recommend it if you enjoy F2.
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by Admit-OneAndrew97 has done a good commentary on the Indycar race so here are a couple of thoughts about the opening Indycar NXT race from the same venue, St. Petersburg, Florida.
NXT, (which the announcers pronounced as 'Next', confusing for anyone familiar with WWE's own NXT!), is the feeder series formerly known as Indy Lights. I don't normally watch it, but was curious as I'd accidentally series linked it and this was the debut of Jamie Chadwick after dominating the W Series. I was mainly watching to see how she fared, so that is where my focus was.
This was definitely a scrappy race. A street circuit with lots of marbles and junior drivers is a recipe for an eventful race and this was no exception. Think F2 levels of wheel banging.
Chadwick qualified 18th out of 19 runners, but with it being a spec series only 8 tenths covered the entire field. She was definitely not miles off the pace.
The start was relatively clean and Chadwick made good progress and gained 2-3 places before disaster on lap 5. A crash ahead of her left her nowhere to go and her car tucked its nose under one already stuck in the tyre barrier. It took a while to recover her car whilst the safety car was out but she made it back to the pits for a nose change and to retighten her seatbelts, (she may have loosened them assuming she was not going to get going again).
She re-joined last and then circulated pretty much on the pace but between 21-24 seconds adrift hoping for another safety car. One did come which was terrific news but then she went wide and onto the marbles which were catching a lot of drivers out. She went into tyres and this called for a second nose swap.
The race itself was one of attrition, and it seemed that every time someone moved off the racing line they were at risk of losing all grip. Lots of cars ended up in the barriers, which was either fun or a bit silly depending on your POV. 14 cars came home, with Chadwick finishing 13th and one lap down. I honestly don't think she did too bad considering the two nose swaps.
Overall I enjoyed the race and it provided a lot of action in less than half the distance of the full Indycar race, (40 laps vs 100). I can recommend it if you enjoy F2.
NXT, (which the announcers pronounced as 'Next', confusing for anyone familiar with WWE's own NXT!), is the feeder series formerly known as Indy Lights. I don't normally watch it, but was curious as I'd accidentally series linked it and this was the debut of Jamie Chadwick after dominating the W Series. I was mainly watching to see how she fared, so that is where my focus was.
This was definitely a scrappy race. A street circuit with lots of marbles and junior drivers is a recipe for an eventful race and this was no exception. Think F2 levels of wheel banging.
Chadwick qualified 18th out of 19 runners, but with it being a spec series only 8 tenths covered the entire field. She was definitely not miles off the pace.
The start was relatively clean and Chadwick made good progress and gained 2-3 places before disaster on lap 5. A crash ahead of her left her nowhere to go and her car tucked its nose under one already stuck in the tyre barrier. It took a while to recover her car whilst the safety car was out but she made it back to the pits for a nose change and to retighten her seatbelts, (she may have loosened them assuming she was not going to get going again).
She re-joined last and then circulated pretty much on the pace but between 21-24 seconds adrift hoping for another safety car. One did come which was terrific news but then she went wide and onto the marbles which were catching a lot of drivers out. She went into tyres and this called for a second nose swap.
The race itself was one of attrition, and it seemed that every time someone moved off the racing line they were at risk of losing all grip. Lots of cars ended up in the barriers, which was either fun or a bit silly depending on your POV. 14 cars came home, with Chadwick finishing 13th and one lap down. I honestly don't think she did too bad considering the two nose swaps.
Overall I enjoyed the race and it provided a lot of action in less than half the distance of the full Indycar race, (40 laps vs 100). I can recommend it if you enjoy F2.
Where is it broadcast?
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by Andrew97Where is it broadcast?
Sky F1. There was a highlights video on the official Indycar website, but not sure if it is region locked.
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Interestingly the analysis suggests that the Aston was actually faster than the Red Bull in low and medium speed corners. Monaco win incoming.
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by Rakas21Interestingly the analysis suggests that the Aston was actually faster than the Red Bull in low and medium speed corners. Monaco win incoming.
Alonso wins a race this year I say,
he can take down Perez if we have a Verstappen retirement
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by Andrew97Alonso wins a race this year I say,
he can take down Perez if we have a Verstappen retirement
he can take down Perez if we have a Verstappen retirement
I think right track, right circumstances. There seems to be a big enough fundamental pace disparity that checo should be able to drive off without the need for a track or strategy battle. Think Fernando will need sc help or particular track characteristics to give him something that keeps him in striking distance.
The RB seems a different level right now.
Mclaren: Given how much they struggled in testing it is not a huge surprise we are talking about Mclaren first here. Mclaren like last year were poor in Bahrain, Piastri was behind Norris all weekend but on time delta was closer than Ricciardo was and will only get better so I don’t want to go after Piastri too much on his debut. Nonetheless the Q1 exit will be a shame. In the race Piastri was ok in the midfield nothing special until he broke down. Norris was awesome as ever getting p11 on the grid, although only just making Q2 thanks to doing his time before Sargeant. In the race Norris was running at the tail end of the points with Albon until he had reliability issues meaning he had to pit multiple times (but did put a good move on an Alpine at one point). Norris did have some good race pace after this as he stayed right with the Hamilton Alonso Sainz battle although this was probably masked by new tyres mostly due to his forced strategy. It was a poor start for Mclaren but they had issues here last year as well so I wont jump to conclusions on their general placement in the field.
Haas: Haas were a bit bleh on Sunday if im honest and we did not see much of them. I was one who was critical of Hulk coming back as he had spent 3 years out the sport, on Saturday he shut me up by getting into Q3 although did lose his lap for track limits in that session. The race went a bit less low as the Hulk got damage on lap one in an incident with the Alpine on Ocon which compromised his pace. After this Hulk dropped back and was not a factor. Ill put this down to simple rust as hes not raced properly for over a year but i am now fairly sure it is written in the rules a Haas must hit somebody on lap 1. Kmag was the star in Bahrain this time last year but in 2023 he wins the participation award for doing nothing of note during the race. tHe pace is a slight concern given haas always seem to start well and drop down but we will see how things develop.
Alphatuari: the only other team to not score any points in Sakhir was AT, out of testing we knew AT would not be that strong and it proved so in round 1. So it proved with De Vries down in p19 and Yuki out in Q2 albiet after a very strong lap in Q1. The dutch rookie De Vries had an unspectacular race as he battled mostly in the mid-field pack consisting of his own teammate, Zhou Sargeant and the Haas pair. De Vreis took a gamble and stayed out during the Leclerc SC which put his off strategy with the cars he was racing and thus off the pace of them. Yuki was stronger this weekend but also manhged to finish outside the points chasing down Albon at the end. Not much else to say about AT really.
Williams: A decent start to the season for Williams who in recent years have struggled to do anything noteworthy in a season opener. Logan Sargeant was the strongest of the 3 rookies in Bahrain and was a bit unlucky the Lando set his Q1 lap first and therefore went into Q2 over Logan. Only being 0.2 seconds off Albon was also closer than Latifi really used to get to Alex so Logan can hold that as a positive as well. The Willaims had better race pace, or the means to hold track position as like in Spa last year they had decent straight line speed to hold back others. Sergeant was part of the midfield pack for the whole race but did do a little different with strategy as like with Red Bull Willaims went soft in the second stint as well which helped Logan Maintain track positon,. He drove a quiet race and wasn't involved in much wheel to wheel stuff and ended up p12 best of the rookies in a very respectable debut. Albon was one of the standout stars of the weekend, a awesome Q1 lap got the unfacied Williams into Q2 and, according to Albon at least, only a problem prevented him getting into Q3. A strong start for Alex along with some luck with the Alpine’s meant Alex was running 10th for most the race maitnaining a good gap to Yuki behind, Gasly in the Alpine was able to get past but the retirement of Leclerc put him back in the points.There like in Melbourne and Spa last year Albon was calm under pressure and managed to hold on to score a point. A great start for williams considering their previous positions.
Alpine: Qualifying was a tale of two halves for Alpine, the race was also a tale of two halves but these were inverted in a very binary weekend for the team. Gasly had a mare in qualifying which was unusual given Gasly is usually very strong in Bahrian but messing up both his laps, including getting one deleted, meant he fell at the first hurdle. Things could only get better in the race and do they did. Gaslt drove a measured race with some decent strategy as in the first stops he undercut his way ahead into 12th just behind Albon and Yuki. The second stop allowed him to clear Yuki and be right behind ALbon before getting him in the VSC period. Gasly then chased down Bottas and only just fell short at the end, still 2 points was a great result for him after Saturday. Ocon had the good Saturday getting into q3 but the start was where it all unraveled. Ocon was out of position at the start earning himself a 5second penalty, contact on the first lap also damaged his front wing. Still he was in the points and it wasnt terrible. Ocon served his penalty at his pitstop, only. He didnt.. The team started undoing the front wing too early earning Ocon a 10 second penalty for not serving the first penalty correctly. To put the final nail well and truly in the coffin Ocon then released the pit limiter a fraction early earning another penalty. This meant at his second pitstop Ocon had to wait 15 seconds before getting any service rivalling Mclaren for the slowest pitstop, Ocon was retired before the end of the race most likely to put himself out his misery. Despite this Alpine had the 5 fastest car and are ahead of AT, AR and co, less mistakes will help in their battle with AR who are next
Alfa Romeo: His result was not spectuaclar on paper nor did he do anything outstanding in the race (Apart from the start maybe) but quietly Bottas drove quite possibly the perfect race. He was never going to beat the top 4 teams but did beat cars faster than him. As alluded to above the start made his race as he moved from 12th to 8th ahead of Stroll briefly (who soon got past), an early stop put Bottas clear of his main rivals of the Alpine’s and Albon gang and even briefly ahead of Russell and the lord of the eyebrow (who he did not waste any time fighting) Bottas drove a controlled race and was not seen on the camera to finish p8 which was the maximum possible result. Zhou was a bit weaker, although very close to mullet man in qualifying he did not make the same sort of start and was stuck in the midfield, Zhou was one of those not to stop under the VSC and thus fell back. However Alfa pitted Zhou for fastest lap which skewed his result slightly, the reason for this was a stroke of genius as it took a point from Alpine who AR see as their rivals, given AR tied with AM last season this was a genius big brain move and Zhou now has two FLs to his name, but liek KMag no extra points for them (I think Kmag still holds the Singapore track record and De La Rosa the Bahrian one)
Mercedes: Is it crisis time at Mercedes? Their social media post yesterday certainly implies so as theu released a rather cringey apology to the fans. Merc are 0.7 faster than they were at this point last year and we have to remember their bahrain result last year was skewed by a late SC and double Red Bull retirement, still they havent closed to gap to REd Bull and have fallen back behind Aston martin. In qualifying Russell was the stronger Merc as they went low dowforce for better pace, still it was only p6 and p7. Both cars made good starts to move ahead of Alonso (with some help) and were p5 for Lewis and p6 for George. George struggled with tyre wear after badgering the team early on to swap the cars around and lost out to Alonso before a slow pitstop. This tyre wear along with a bit of sub-par strategic thinking from mercedes cost Russell a place to Stroll in the second round of pitstops and Russell ended up in p7. Lewis fared better with the tyre wear and pulled away from George after the first stops before engaging in a great little battle with Fernando, ultimately the Spainard got the better of Lewis who shaodwed Sainz until the end. P5 and p7 was not the result Merc wanted and Toto WOlff was very critical afte the race, it will be interesting to see where they go from here
Ferrari: Ferrari told everyone into 2023 they had sorted their tyre wear and their reliability, evidence in Bahrian implies this may not be the case. Sainz struggled for pace pretty much all weekend and even had some scruffy practice sessions. He qualified in p4 and stayed there for most of the race not being able to hold a candle really to the top 3 who pulled away. Once Leclerc retired Sainz had a chance of a podium place but he was really struggling with tyre wear and was hunted down by the Aston Martin of Fernando Alonso and in a great little scrap lost out. It was a disappointing race from Sainz who just lacked pace. Leclerc was the stronger Ferrari driver and was p3 on the grid with only 1 Q3 run to enable him to have some fresh softs for the start, the plan seemed to work as he jumped Checo at the start and was running p2 maintaining a good gap to Checo, Ferrari had to go hard tyre in the second stint while RB were able to go soft so Leclerc despite his best efforts lost out to Perez but still maintained a good gap to sainz and co. Leclerc looked on for a podium shot until his engine went and he pulled over to the side of the track, more relaibiliy woes for Ferrari and grid penalties incoming for Leclerc already is a bad way to start the season
Aston Martin: AM are easily the most improved team over the winter break. Lance Stroll did very well to comeback and race given the situation he was in a week before the race, many were critical of AM’s decision to let him race and on friday they looked correct as he struggled to get out the car, we have to remember he did pass the extraction tests so one assumes he was just resting his wrist because he could. Stroll was about 0.5 seconds off Alonso in qualifying which given he hadnt driven the car that much and was not in tip top shape was not that bad a performance if we are honest and on lap 1 he did almost take Alonso out, in fairness to Stroll here Alonso did cut back very sharply and it was lap one stuff does happen. After this however Lance did very well to get back past Bottas and even undercut Russell a good drive from Lance. Alonso was typical Fernando, hustling the car and topping 2 practice sessions so a p5 on the grid was perhaps a little disappointing. The contact with Stroll on lap 1 was unfortunate and cost Alonso time and places to the Mercedes pair. Fernando bided his time beyond Russell waiting until the pitstops and the Mercs tyres to go off before pouncing and getting his victim. He then hunted down Hamilton running longer, and crucially fast, in his second stint and after those pitstops he came out in full attack mode and had a brillaint battle with lewis. In the first bit of it Lewis showed the superior racecraft with an excellent cutback, but Alonso the wily fox stuck at it and through some simply cunning car placement managed to get his man at T9, an unusual overtaking place. He then hunted down Sainz and with more brilliant car placement (and a wheel bang) got his man and drove off into the distanve to get a podium. Has Alonso finally made a correct team move?
Red Bull: Red Bull started 2023 in dominant fashion. Not much to say about Verstappen, it was a typical Hamilton Mercedes or Vettel at Red Bull victory, broke drs saved tyres and just left the others from dust. He will be very tricky to beat this season. Checo qualified in the front row which was good for him, but a poor start dropped hum behind Lelcerc and in the first stint he was able to do little against the Ferrari. Perez stuck at it and when red bull went soft in the second stint he was able to hunt down and get the ferrari and then have an easy run to second. Bahrain as a track suits this RB and they wont be this dominant all season, this however is a great start for them
Haas: Haas were a bit bleh on Sunday if im honest and we did not see much of them. I was one who was critical of Hulk coming back as he had spent 3 years out the sport, on Saturday he shut me up by getting into Q3 although did lose his lap for track limits in that session. The race went a bit less low as the Hulk got damage on lap one in an incident with the Alpine on Ocon which compromised his pace. After this Hulk dropped back and was not a factor. Ill put this down to simple rust as hes not raced properly for over a year but i am now fairly sure it is written in the rules a Haas must hit somebody on lap 1. Kmag was the star in Bahrain this time last year but in 2023 he wins the participation award for doing nothing of note during the race. tHe pace is a slight concern given haas always seem to start well and drop down but we will see how things develop.
Alphatuari: the only other team to not score any points in Sakhir was AT, out of testing we knew AT would not be that strong and it proved so in round 1. So it proved with De Vries down in p19 and Yuki out in Q2 albiet after a very strong lap in Q1. The dutch rookie De Vries had an unspectacular race as he battled mostly in the mid-field pack consisting of his own teammate, Zhou Sargeant and the Haas pair. De Vreis took a gamble and stayed out during the Leclerc SC which put his off strategy with the cars he was racing and thus off the pace of them. Yuki was stronger this weekend but also manhged to finish outside the points chasing down Albon at the end. Not much else to say about AT really.
Williams: A decent start to the season for Williams who in recent years have struggled to do anything noteworthy in a season opener. Logan Sargeant was the strongest of the 3 rookies in Bahrain and was a bit unlucky the Lando set his Q1 lap first and therefore went into Q2 over Logan. Only being 0.2 seconds off Albon was also closer than Latifi really used to get to Alex so Logan can hold that as a positive as well. The Willaims had better race pace, or the means to hold track position as like in Spa last year they had decent straight line speed to hold back others. Sergeant was part of the midfield pack for the whole race but did do a little different with strategy as like with Red Bull Willaims went soft in the second stint as well which helped Logan Maintain track positon,. He drove a quiet race and wasn't involved in much wheel to wheel stuff and ended up p12 best of the rookies in a very respectable debut. Albon was one of the standout stars of the weekend, a awesome Q1 lap got the unfacied Williams into Q2 and, according to Albon at least, only a problem prevented him getting into Q3. A strong start for Alex along with some luck with the Alpine’s meant Alex was running 10th for most the race maitnaining a good gap to Yuki behind, Gasly in the Alpine was able to get past but the retirement of Leclerc put him back in the points.There like in Melbourne and Spa last year Albon was calm under pressure and managed to hold on to score a point. A great start for williams considering their previous positions.
Alpine: Qualifying was a tale of two halves for Alpine, the race was also a tale of two halves but these were inverted in a very binary weekend for the team. Gasly had a mare in qualifying which was unusual given Gasly is usually very strong in Bahrian but messing up both his laps, including getting one deleted, meant he fell at the first hurdle. Things could only get better in the race and do they did. Gaslt drove a measured race with some decent strategy as in the first stops he undercut his way ahead into 12th just behind Albon and Yuki. The second stop allowed him to clear Yuki and be right behind ALbon before getting him in the VSC period. Gasly then chased down Bottas and only just fell short at the end, still 2 points was a great result for him after Saturday. Ocon had the good Saturday getting into q3 but the start was where it all unraveled. Ocon was out of position at the start earning himself a 5second penalty, contact on the first lap also damaged his front wing. Still he was in the points and it wasnt terrible. Ocon served his penalty at his pitstop, only. He didnt.. The team started undoing the front wing too early earning Ocon a 10 second penalty for not serving the first penalty correctly. To put the final nail well and truly in the coffin Ocon then released the pit limiter a fraction early earning another penalty. This meant at his second pitstop Ocon had to wait 15 seconds before getting any service rivalling Mclaren for the slowest pitstop, Ocon was retired before the end of the race most likely to put himself out his misery. Despite this Alpine had the 5 fastest car and are ahead of AT, AR and co, less mistakes will help in their battle with AR who are next
Alfa Romeo: His result was not spectuaclar on paper nor did he do anything outstanding in the race (Apart from the start maybe) but quietly Bottas drove quite possibly the perfect race. He was never going to beat the top 4 teams but did beat cars faster than him. As alluded to above the start made his race as he moved from 12th to 8th ahead of Stroll briefly (who soon got past), an early stop put Bottas clear of his main rivals of the Alpine’s and Albon gang and even briefly ahead of Russell and the lord of the eyebrow (who he did not waste any time fighting) Bottas drove a controlled race and was not seen on the camera to finish p8 which was the maximum possible result. Zhou was a bit weaker, although very close to mullet man in qualifying he did not make the same sort of start and was stuck in the midfield, Zhou was one of those not to stop under the VSC and thus fell back. However Alfa pitted Zhou for fastest lap which skewed his result slightly, the reason for this was a stroke of genius as it took a point from Alpine who AR see as their rivals, given AR tied with AM last season this was a genius big brain move and Zhou now has two FLs to his name, but liek KMag no extra points for them (I think Kmag still holds the Singapore track record and De La Rosa the Bahrian one)
Mercedes: Is it crisis time at Mercedes? Their social media post yesterday certainly implies so as theu released a rather cringey apology to the fans. Merc are 0.7 faster than they were at this point last year and we have to remember their bahrain result last year was skewed by a late SC and double Red Bull retirement, still they havent closed to gap to REd Bull and have fallen back behind Aston martin. In qualifying Russell was the stronger Merc as they went low dowforce for better pace, still it was only p6 and p7. Both cars made good starts to move ahead of Alonso (with some help) and were p5 for Lewis and p6 for George. George struggled with tyre wear after badgering the team early on to swap the cars around and lost out to Alonso before a slow pitstop. This tyre wear along with a bit of sub-par strategic thinking from mercedes cost Russell a place to Stroll in the second round of pitstops and Russell ended up in p7. Lewis fared better with the tyre wear and pulled away from George after the first stops before engaging in a great little battle with Fernando, ultimately the Spainard got the better of Lewis who shaodwed Sainz until the end. P5 and p7 was not the result Merc wanted and Toto WOlff was very critical afte the race, it will be interesting to see where they go from here
Ferrari: Ferrari told everyone into 2023 they had sorted their tyre wear and their reliability, evidence in Bahrian implies this may not be the case. Sainz struggled for pace pretty much all weekend and even had some scruffy practice sessions. He qualified in p4 and stayed there for most of the race not being able to hold a candle really to the top 3 who pulled away. Once Leclerc retired Sainz had a chance of a podium place but he was really struggling with tyre wear and was hunted down by the Aston Martin of Fernando Alonso and in a great little scrap lost out. It was a disappointing race from Sainz who just lacked pace. Leclerc was the stronger Ferrari driver and was p3 on the grid with only 1 Q3 run to enable him to have some fresh softs for the start, the plan seemed to work as he jumped Checo at the start and was running p2 maintaining a good gap to Checo, Ferrari had to go hard tyre in the second stint while RB were able to go soft so Leclerc despite his best efforts lost out to Perez but still maintained a good gap to sainz and co. Leclerc looked on for a podium shot until his engine went and he pulled over to the side of the track, more relaibiliy woes for Ferrari and grid penalties incoming for Leclerc already is a bad way to start the season
Aston Martin: AM are easily the most improved team over the winter break. Lance Stroll did very well to comeback and race given the situation he was in a week before the race, many were critical of AM’s decision to let him race and on friday they looked correct as he struggled to get out the car, we have to remember he did pass the extraction tests so one assumes he was just resting his wrist because he could. Stroll was about 0.5 seconds off Alonso in qualifying which given he hadnt driven the car that much and was not in tip top shape was not that bad a performance if we are honest and on lap 1 he did almost take Alonso out, in fairness to Stroll here Alonso did cut back very sharply and it was lap one stuff does happen. After this however Lance did very well to get back past Bottas and even undercut Russell a good drive from Lance. Alonso was typical Fernando, hustling the car and topping 2 practice sessions so a p5 on the grid was perhaps a little disappointing. The contact with Stroll on lap 1 was unfortunate and cost Alonso time and places to the Mercedes pair. Fernando bided his time beyond Russell waiting until the pitstops and the Mercs tyres to go off before pouncing and getting his victim. He then hunted down Hamilton running longer, and crucially fast, in his second stint and after those pitstops he came out in full attack mode and had a brillaint battle with lewis. In the first bit of it Lewis showed the superior racecraft with an excellent cutback, but Alonso the wily fox stuck at it and through some simply cunning car placement managed to get his man at T9, an unusual overtaking place. He then hunted down Sainz and with more brilliant car placement (and a wheel bang) got his man and drove off into the distanve to get a podium. Has Alonso finally made a correct team move?
Red Bull: Red Bull started 2023 in dominant fashion. Not much to say about Verstappen, it was a typical Hamilton Mercedes or Vettel at Red Bull victory, broke drs saved tyres and just left the others from dust. He will be very tricky to beat this season. Checo qualified in the front row which was good for him, but a poor start dropped hum behind Lelcerc and in the first stint he was able to do little against the Ferrari. Perez stuck at it and when red bull went soft in the second stint he was able to hunt down and get the ferrari and then have an easy run to second. Bahrain as a track suits this RB and they wont be this dominant all season, this however is a great start for them
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I expect ferrari to be stronger then Aston, Bahrain is very hard on tyres the Aston seems excellent at tyre management so does better in long runs. I don’t anticipate Jeddah being as hard on tyres as a fortnight ago. The ferrari is a faster 1 lap car & should be less effected over longer runs basically anywhere else compared to bahrain.
Although it is v/early, still learning car operating windows at this point.
Although it is v/early, still learning car operating windows at this point.
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Leclerc has a 10 place grid penalty as both his ecus were fried in Bahrain. The cause it seems is a loose wiring loom which is just pathetic by ferrari.
What is intruiging is that the control electrics are supplied by mclaren to all teams and it seems piastri had a similar issue to leclerc
As it stands, it seems its ferraris fault re the control electrics but it more drivers from other teams have the same issue, it would be interesting to see how the fia handles it.
Whilst on the topic of ferrari, David sanchez and Enrico cardille have left or are due to leave. This is the main aero guy and main designer for ferrari respectively. Also rumours that mekies is out as well but so far this seems to be inaccurate
What is intruiging is that the control electrics are supplied by mclaren to all teams and it seems piastri had a similar issue to leclerc
As it stands, it seems its ferraris fault re the control electrics but it more drivers from other teams have the same issue, it would be interesting to see how the fia handles it.
Whilst on the topic of ferrari, David sanchez and Enrico cardille have left or are due to leave. This is the main aero guy and main designer for ferrari respectively. Also rumours that mekies is out as well but so far this seems to be inaccurate
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Angela's leaving lewis!
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Astons former head of strategy is now a pundit for sky f1 - bernie Collins.
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by quasaAngela's leaving lewis!
Fair play. Travelling around the world for 7yrs is a bit of a slog.
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by quasaAstons former head of strategy is now a pundit for sky f1 - bernie Collins.
I don't know anything about her other than the press release, but a good signing to get someone familiar with modern F1 strategy. Hopefully a bit more insightful than Herbert
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by Admit-OneI don't know anything about her other than the press release, but a good signing to get someone familiar with modern F1 strategy. Hopefully a bit more insightful than Herbert
Her insight has been wonderful in free practice so far.
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by mnotHer insight has been wonderful in free practice so far.
That's a good sign. I was not sure if she had ever done on camera (or on the mic) work before.
Edit: Looking at her twitter I can see she's done a bit of punditry before. I just don't keep up with a lot of the stuff not on the main programmes.
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by mnotHer insight has been wonderful in free practice so far.
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by Admit-OneThat's a good sign. I was not sure if she had ever done on camera (or on the mic) work before.
Edit: Looking at her twitter I can see she's done a bit of punditry before. I just don't keep up with a lot of the stuff not on the main programmes.
Edit: Looking at her twitter I can see she's done a bit of punditry before. I just don't keep up with a lot of the stuff not on the main programmes.
Already enjoying her Insight more than sky's broadcasting from the last decade or so
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by Admit-OneThat's a good sign. I was not sure if she had ever done on camera (or on the mic) work before.
Have to see what she’s like during the main show, but so far has been very refreshing commentary, really enjoying what she has to sa.
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Very curious to see her, bsport and brrrrakef1 in a commentary box (Kyle is boring and a bit too arrogant sounding for my liking) as she is strategy, brrrake was an rb data engineer and bsport was an aerodynamicist for audi in wec, lambos in gt and force india/rp/Aston in f1
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