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no Sean Long won a load of money for them on a bet, their financially secure, their now considering a poker team as well
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I heard that the £200,000 they got for Gleeson was put on Leeds with a - 10 handicap .
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I'm from St. Helens and local newspapers have been babbling on about a new stadium for years
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(Original post by Mark_KK)
G.B. centre Martin Gleeson has been sold to Warrington for £200,000 in an unusual move heralding the first major Rugby League transfer fee in years.

Saints financial problems are well documented and I fail to see how they can survive on average crowds of just under 10K with all the big name players they have in their squad.

Perhaps the bank finally called in some of the loan?

Apparantly the council wants to do a public / private partnership to develop land into a complex to include a new stadium. Perhaps this could help boost their crowds and subsequently develop new revenue.

What a great result. I can't remember ever seeing Leeds nill a side before at Headingley (never mind by 70 points). As for Saints, I think they've just cashed in on Gleeson as he's useless to them for the remainder of the season. It would be interesting to see what's gone on behind closed doors with regard to the betting affair and the fallout, as I wonder if this is merely trying to offload the bad press that seems to hound them continually (as the crowds have dropped since the "two" were suspended). The chairman put in £750,000 of his own money when he took over. As for all the big name players, the salary cap stops clubs from doing exactly what you say as they can only spend up to half their turnover on wages and bonuses for players (up to the £1.8 million cap). What will be interesting is to see if Saints replace Gleeson and with who (Ellis from Wakey perhaps or an Aussie although Linsey didn't have much success down under).
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I am aware of thie problems surrounding the new stadium however apparantly there is a real chance of it happening now something to do with a new retail park or entertainments complex.

They need a new stadium to boost the crowds or they risk getting left behind epsecially when it is not uncommon to see 15,000 + attendances at Wigan / Leeds / Hull / Bradford.
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(Original post by meepmeep)
What a great result. I can't remember ever seeing Leeds nill a side before at Headingley (never mind by 70 points). As for Saints, I think they've just cashed in on Gleeson as he's useless to them for the remainder of the season. It would be interesting to see what's gone on behind closed doors with regard to the betting affair and the fallout, as I wonder if this is merely trying to offload the bad press that seems to hound them continually (as the crowds have dropped since the "two" were suspended). The chairman put in £750,000 of his own money when he took over. As for all the big name players, the salary cap stops clubs from doing exactly what you say as they can only spend up to half their turnover on wages and bonuses for players (up to the £1.8 million cap). What will be interesting is to see if Saints replace Gleeson and with who (Ellis from Wakey perhaps or an Aussie although Linsey didn't have much success down under).
I know about the salary cap and apparantly very few teams spend up to it. There is also the issue of the 20/20/20 rule (you can only have 20 players over 20 years old earning over £20K p/a). There are also ways round the salary cap, apparantly various players wives are paid handsome amounts for doing 2 hrs a week in the club office / shop.

All in all the finances of some of these clubs amaze me - quite where Warrington found £200K from in the first place is interesting. I think they are backed by a Lord or something.

Quite how Wakey survive on average crowds of around 4,500 amazes me too!
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And I forgot to mention being run out..........

I guess we're just a good team
Heh, a batsman can also be timed out, though it is highly unusual. It is within the laws of the game, nevertheless!
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Adriano is soo good!!! Man Utd were scouting him about 2 years ago! But nothing seemed to come from that.

He actaully is amazing!! :eek:

He has it all: Strength, Power, Skill, Great technique, Speed, and a wicked finisher with his head or feet.
He is my second favourite player. :cool:

INter - Perugia last season ~ He was incredible in that match, single handedly won the game for Inter when they were down and almost out! :cool:

(If anyone from Manchester United reads this, please God tell Fergie to sign him!)
Man Utd ? With Adriano, Man Utd will be too strong to be defeated. It's not fair for rest premier clubs !
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Walker can come in handy in a pinch, but they still desperately need Thomas since. Who would play center if he got traded?
Well if that deal went through, they'd be getting Dampier too (Mohammed was meant to be part of the deal) and would have Vin Baker to back him up. If they didn't end up with Crawford, then Mutombo would still be around too.
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Heh, a batsman can also be timed out, though it is highly unusual. It is within the laws of the game, nevertheless!
yeah, Quiksilver posted it above
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oh yeah, didn't think of that :rolleyes:
here it is: http://vt.essortment.com/cricketrule_redn.htm
most of it is copied, with a few adjustments...
From here actually, but it wasn't really comprehensive enough. I know you said brief, Miss scarlet ibis, but if you ever seen ALL the rules of cricket then you'll see that what I posted was brief! For someone that's showing an interest in a sport that you know little about, I thought the post explained quite clearly all the different aspects of cricket without going into too much technical detail.
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(Original post by Quiksilver)
1) Bowled
2) Caught
3) lbw
4) Run out
5) Stumping
6) Hit wicket
7) Double Hit
8) Timed out
9) Handled the ball
10) Obstructing the field
according to http://www.lords.org/cricket/laws.asp

wow... knew bout the common ones....... but never heard of 'timed out'........
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can anyone give me a really BRIEF explanation of cricket rules? i was watching the england v, W. Indies test match this morning, and i compleely didn't understand what was going on! i mean, i know they have to whack the ball as far as they can and the other team run after it, but thats about the limit of my understanding!
Ok each side has 11 players, and one team is batting whilst the other is bowling/fielding. The batting side decide the order of who will bat from best to worst generally, the last couple on the list will usually be really awful at batting because they're actually bowlers, however the oens at the top of the list will be specialised batsmen.

Only two batsmen are used at one time, so they send out their numbers one and two to the 'crease' which is that strip in the middle which is an orangey colour. One batsman stands in front of each wicket. On the other team there is a bowler, a wicket keeper and then the other 9 are fielders who just stand wherever the captain decides they should be. The bowler then runs up and bowls at one of the batsmen to try and get him out. This can be dont a number of ways;
Bowled - this is when the ball directly hits the stumps.

Caught - obviously when any of the 11 fielding players catch the ball, it has to carry right to them without bouncing though.

LBW - (leg before wicket) If the ball was going on target, but gets blocked the the batmens leg pads then it's out.

Stumped/run out - if the batsmen are running and the fielders throw the ball back quickly and it hits the stumps whilst the batmen are still 'out of the crease'* then they're out. Also if the bowler bowls, and the batsman charges forward to smack it but misses, and it then goes to the wicket keepeer who then hits the stumps then they're out.

*By 'in the crease' i am referring to a white line not far from either of the stumps, the batsman has to have hit bat over this line to be safe from being stumped out.

When the bowling/fielding side get one of the opening batsman out number three in the order comes along, and they keep coming until 10 people are out. (It's 10 not 11 because two batsmen have to be at the crease at all times.) So to sum up, the aim of the bowling/fielding side is to take 10 wickets.

The aim of the batsmen is to gain runs. They do this by hitting the ball into spaces between the fielders and then running back and fourth down the crease, they have to get to the oposite white line, each time they do this one run is gained, if they run back again they gain 2 runs and so on. Also the entire pitch is surrounded by a white ropes quite fat away, if they hit the ball well it'll reach to the white rope and if it goes over the rope they'll gain 4 runs without actually having to run. If they hit it so hard that it crosses the rope without boucning on the ground they'll gain 6 runs! The batsmen just want to gain as many runs as possible.

The teams will usually contains about half bowlers, half batsmen and a wicket keeper who is usually good at batting as well. The bowlers take it in turn, they bowl an 'over'* and then let somebody else have an over, and then it's back to them.
* An over is 6 balls. A couple more terms you may here are 'dot balls' which is a bowl where no runs are scored off it, or a 'maiden' which is an entire over without any runs being gained.

England vs the West Indies now is a "test match" which is very different to a one day match. A test match lasts 5 days, it starts with one team batting and one bowling/fielding obviously and they play until all 10 batsmen are out, then the team which was batting bowls/fields and try to get the other side out for a smaller amount of runs then they had gained. However this isn't the end, in a test match they do this again, so each side has two turns batting and two turns bowling/fielding.

In this match the first innings has been completed for each side, and England who had betted first are having their second go, we got more runs then they did in the first innings, so we have the advantage now, hopefully we'll win.

Hope this helps clear things up, if you have more questions just ask, and sorry about any typos, can't be bothered to check for spelling mistakes.
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so..... since the reign of the lakers has ended...... what team will ne laker fans here be supporting now.......??????......... true fans stick with the teams... and not players........
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I love it
does anyone else?
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I love it
does anyone else?
Yes
Also,
I don't like reggae
I love it

What a great summer song that is
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Yes
Also,
I don't like reggae
I love it

What a great summer song that is
what a great tune that is
do you think england will win this test?
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what a great tune that is
do you think england will win this test?
I bloody well hope so, it just depends on time with this one really - they are capable of doing it, but if the Windies dig their heels in it could be tricky. Only in cricket can you play for 5 days and still draw
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I bloody well hope so, it just depends on time with this one really - they are capable of doing it, but if the Windies dig their heels in it could be tricky. Only in cricket can you play for 5 days and still draw
this is by far England's best team - Key and Strauss are a great opening pair. They may stand a chance in the next ashes
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this is by far England's best team - Key and Strauss are a great opening pair. They may stand a chance in the next ashes
Key is too fat for my liking though, i'm not insulting him for no reason, he really does need to lose some weight.
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