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Should nurses be paid more?

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Original post by Quady
Well you might think it'd be a good start, I suspect their union would be insulted to suggest reducing the compensation package.

The union would be against a base salary increase of £10k? Sure. :rolleyes:
Original post by yeet_21
what kind of company pays a school leaver 24k for an admin job. heck that was more than my salary when i finished uni

It was less than 24k (22k), but the point was that I got that job with no experience. Plus it had great working conditions, sitting in an office all day was very comfortable. :biggrin:
Here's a good article

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/12/20/nurses-salaries-which-countries-pay-the-most-and-the-least-in-europe

TLDR

Among nine selected countries, salaries increased in seven countries in real terms between 2010 and 2020 (Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, the Czech Republic, the Netherlands, Spain, and Belgium). However, they declined by 6 per cent in the UK in this period (2010-2019) and did not change in France.

Personally I think it's time we stop shafting our nurses
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Original post by SHallowvale
The union would be against a base salary increase of £10k? Sure. :rolleyes:


The union would be for pension change from defined benefit to defined contribution? Sure. :cool:
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Original post by SHallowvale
It was less than 24k (22k), but the point was that I got that job with no experience. Plus it had great working conditions, sitting in an office all day was very comfortable. :biggrin:


Defined benefit pension?
Original post by Quady
The union would be for pension change from defined benefit to defined contribution? Sure. :cool:

Original post by Quady
Defined benefit pension?

When did I say anything about pension changes?
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Original post by SHallowvale
When did I say anything about pension changes?


I did, post #16.

You said the offer was a good start.
Original post by Quady
I did, post #16.

You said the offer was a good start.

I was talking about the salary.
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Original post by SHallowvale
I was talking about the salary.


Well that's not the whole benefits package of a public sector worker.
Original post by Quady
Well that's not the whole benefits package of a public sector worker.

I know, but I was talking about salary.
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Original post by SHallowvale
I know, but I was talking about salary.


Aye. Salary can be increased whilst reducing the benefits package though. So you're not just talking salary.
Original post by Quady
Aye. Salary can be increased whilst reducing the benefits package though. So you're not just talking salary.

I was just talking about salary as I said nothing about the benefits package.
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Original post by SHallowvale
I was just talking about salary as I said nothing about the benefits package.


Cool.

And yeah, salary could very affordable be increased.

The unions couldn't agree to a 10% pay rise though.
Original post by Quady
Cool.

And yeah, salary could very affordable be increased.

The unions couldn't agree to a 10% pay rise though.

Indeed, it's pretty bad.
No.
But they should be income tax and national insurance exempt.
With guaranteed access to free or low cost local all inclusive accomodation close to their place of employment, if wanted.
Yes, they do deserve higher pay.
They play a vital role in the running of the NHS and they are under valued.
They deserve a fair pay rise.
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Original post by Emma:-)
Yes, they do deserve higher pay.
They play a vital role in the running of the NHS and they are under valued.
They deserve a fair pay rise.


What do you constitute as a fair pay rise and does anyone else in the NHS deserve this or just nurses?
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Original post by Emma:-)
Yes, they do deserve higher pay.
They play a vital role in the running of the NHS and they are under valued.
They deserve a fair pay rise.


What would an unfairly high pay rise be?

Original post by londonmyst
No.
But they should be income tax and national insurance exempt.
With guaranteed access to free or low cost local all inclusive accomodation close to their place of employment, if wanted.


So about a 40% pay rise for senior nurses?
Plus free housing/Council tax/bills.
So they'd be better off by about 55-60%
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Original post by Quady
What would an unfairly high pay rise be?



So about a 40% pay rise for senior nurses?
Plus free housing/Council tax/bills.
So they'd be better off by about 55-60%


Not sure why nurses should be a special case over doctors, physios and any other front line NHS worker either.
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Original post by Emma:-)
Yes, they do deserve higher pay.
They play a vital role in the running of the NHS and they are under valued.
They deserve a fair pay rise.

Define fair.

Even I support public sector pay rises however it is simply not 'fair' to ask the taxpayer to stomach double digit pay rises. They should be offered 7% (in line with current private sector wage rises).

Nurses are not to blame for our current inflationary shock but neither is the taxpayer.

We could of course tie nursing pay rises to cuts elsewhere in the NHS. If the NHS would agree to remove non-essential things like second abortions then that would free money in the budget.

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