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should diplomats be immune from civil and criminal prosecution or not?
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I not not believe they should have this right as none, not even the head of government or state enjoys it. It is almost as if they have a ticket to do whatever they wish in this country and be immune from any reprisals.
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should diplomats be immune from civil and criminal prosecution or not?
Absolutely not.
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should diplomats be immune from civil and criminal prosecution or not?
Who suggested such nonsense?
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Who suggested such nonsense?
its mainly set up for the protection of diplomats, rather than abuse by them. But yes, there are problems, like not paying damned parking tickets, or murder (if you are the evil guy from lethal weapon 2...)
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well most diplomats fortunately are't serial killas...i guess its cool
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students should be immune damn it
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Obviously purely hypothetical but what would we do with the American ambassador in london if the US launched a nuclear strike against us? Would we have to let him go?
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Under that scenario he would be deported, along with the rest of his staff.
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Obviously purely hypothetical but what would we do with the American ambassador in london if the US launched a nuclear strike against us? Would we have to let him go?
Well, he would be rather stupid to declare a nuclear war while remaining in the country. He would almost certainly die, especially if he was in London.
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I not not believe they should have this right as none, not even the head of government or state enjoys it. It is almost as if they have a ticket to do whatever they wish in this country and be immune from any reprisals.
I believe constitutionally it would be very difficult to try the Queen. She as good as has immunity.

The courts couldn't call the Queen as a witness to a trial even.
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I believe constitutionally it would be very difficult to try the Queen. She as good as has immunity.

The courts couldn't call the Queen as a witness to a trial even.
The Queen can't be tried - she is above the law. No act that she does can be considered illegal.
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Well, he would be rather stupid to declare a nuclear war while remaining in the country. He would almost certainly die, especially if he was in London.
Yeah but what I am asking is providing he didn't die and that he was still in the country, would we not have any legal powers to hold him?
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Diplomatic immunity exists to allow foreign relations to be carried out in a civilised manner, it stops governments kidnapping ambassadors from other countries in order to gain leverage.
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Well, he would be rather stupid to declare a nuclear war while remaining in the country. He would almost certainly die, especially if he was in London.
Well I dont think that we can hold foreign citizens just because we are at war with their country. (random question)If he was a member of the opposing country's military, can we hold him as a PoW?

I think that the post which said that his staff and him getting deported sounds the most feasible, providing the UK hasn't been blown to bits.
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Well I dont think that we can hold foreign citizens just because we are at war with their country. (random question)If he was a member of the opposing country's military, can we hold him as a PoW?

I think that the post which said that his staff and him getting deported sounds the most feasible, providing the UK hasn't been blown to bits.
I was thinking of the japanese attack on pearl harbour. Shortly after that, the japanese ambassador went to meet with American officals to hand over an offical declaration of war but I don't know what the Americans did with the guy....
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The Queen can't be tried - she is above the law. No act that she does can be considered illegal.
The Queen isn't above the law, she is the law! Crown v. Accused ect.
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Well I dont think that we can hold foreign citizens just because we are at war with their country.
It's quite possible to intern citizens of a waring nation; in fact Britain did just that in the early stages of the Second World War. Both German and Italian nationals were rounded up and held in internment camps all over the place. The United States did the same thing with the Japs when they entered later on too.
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If he was a member of the opposing country's military, can we hold him as a PoW?
In short, it would depend. If they were a Colonel, but also the ambassador; then they would fall under D.I. and need to be returned, unharmed, to their country of citizenship. If, on the otherhand, they were a Colonel, but DIDN'T hold a diplomatic position, they would fall under military law and would be imprisoned under the terms of the Geneva Convention.
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I was thinking of the japanese attack on pearl harbour. Shortly after that, the japanese ambassador went to meet with American officals to hand over an offical declaration of war but I don't know what the Americans did with the guy....
Big difference. He, as the ambassador, was a diplomat. Your average japanese jo walking the streets of LA, wasn't a diplomat. Dipolatmic immunity only applies to those holding diplomatic visas, not all foreign citizens.
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Big difference. He, as the ambassador, was a diplomat. Your average japanese jo walking the streets of LA, wasn't a diplomat. Dipolatmic immunity only applies to those holding diplomatic visas, not all foreign citizens.
I'm friends with the son of a diplomat and he also has diplomatic immunity, like his whole family does... it's a nice little stamp to have in your passport!
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Diplomats aren't immune from prosecution, they're just immune from prosecution in their host country. If they commit a serious crime, they'll almost certainly be tried for it in their own country.
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