Official: Newcastle University A100 2024 Entry Applicants
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Original post by Ibmoahsa
you fill form that opens tomorrow, then your reference will confirm that you are qualify for partners . Then you just wait until you get interview and offers , part of condition to get the offer is that you make Newcastle your firm and you attend the summer school at end of year 13 ( after the exams ).
What happens if I decide not to firm it?
Original post by dinofish
What happens if I decide not to firm it?
you get the standard offer of AAA
Original post by dinofish
Ohhhh thank you! So even if my interview goes well, I still have to do the summer school and firm it?
Yes, that’s correct
Original post by GANFYD
Yes, that’s correct
Have you got any idea what the non-contextual cut off is going to be this year? I feel like 2860 is cutting it close...
Original post by reubenn05
partners cutoff was around 2750 last year i think, so it would be a bit risky
Wasn’t it 2700?
Original post by hariskhan123
Wasn’t it 2700?
yes that was the official cutoff, i think i posted 2750 before the stats came out
Original post by hariskhan123
Wasn’t it 2700?
The issue is that Newcastle have a nasty habit of interviewing a few more people after the end if the usual cycle, which, on the face of it, lowers their UCAT cut off. I think it was around 2750 by the UCAT deadline, with lots of people lower than this rejected, but when they had acceptances in, they went back and invited a few more people to interview. But many between 2700 and 2750 had accepted other offers, so were not eligible, but had they interviewed the final number all together when doing interviews, the cut off would be unlikely to have dropped as low as it finally appeared.
I feel it is misleading, as people with >2700 were rejected so it is hard to rely upon it for an interview, but it is what they post and they have done it for years, sadly.
I'm posting this on here as a parent of an adult student at Newcastle Medical School, a doctor that qualified many moons ago and and an advocate for women in medicine who supports sixth formers to get into medical school every year. I cannot in good faith recommend any student currently applies to Newcastle unless you are someone who is never anxious, has no health issues, doesn't mind shocking teaching and an uncaring university. Newcastle is an amazing city, you will make great friends but the course- new curriculum- is a shambles. The teaching is weak in so many areas. You might as well just get passmedicine and teach yourself medicine because that's how bad it is. Their approach is infantilising, disorganised, you will never get your timetable in a reasonable timeframe. Any complaint will get you professionalism points if they consider it 'too aggressive'. There are many very good medical schools in the UK, Newcastle is cruising on it's past reputation and is not currently one of them, it is tumbling down the rankings, student satisfication is falling. Before anyone says anything my adult child has not failed a single exam, I am not here because they are failing or not coping. I'm just so shocked by how poor it is. I went to medical school many moons ago in a tough and very chauvanistic environment but never encountered the level of bullying and degredation the students face. There are many misrable, burnt out young adults in the clinical years. I don't think the medical school actually wants to try to help it's students pass, the culture and treatment is truly extraordinary. So please bright young things, look elsewhere, medicine remains an amazing rewarding job that I love but please investigate your choices thoroughly. Try asking what the failure/drop out rate is and good luck with your applications.
Original post by daisy0575
I'm posting this on here as a parent of an adult student at Newcastle Medical School, a doctor that qualified many moons ago and and an advocate for women in medicine who supports sixth formers to get into medical school every year. I cannot in good faith recommend any student currently applies to Newcastle unless you are someone who is never anxious, has no health issues, doesn't mind shocking teaching and an uncaring university. Newcastle is an amazing city, you will make great friends but the course- new curriculum- is a shambles. The teaching is weak in so many areas. You might as well just get passmedicine and teach yourself medicine because that's how bad it is. Their approach is infantilising, disorganised, you will never get your timetable in a reasonable timeframe. Any complaint will get you professionalism points if they consider it 'too aggressive'. There are many very good medical schools in the UK, Newcastle is cruising on it's past reputation and is not currently one of them, it is tumbling down the rankings, student satisfication is falling. Before anyone says anything my adult child has not failed a single exam, I am not here because they are failing or not coping. I'm just so shocked by how poor it is. I went to medical school many moons ago in a tough and very chauvanistic environment but never encountered the level of bullying and degredation the students face. There are many misrable, burnt out young adults in the clinical years. I don't think the medical school actually wants to try to help it's students pass, the culture and treatment is truly extraordinary. So please bright young things, look elsewhere, medicine remains an amazing rewarding job that I love but please investigate your choices thoroughly. Try asking what the failure/drop out rate is and good luck with your applications.
This is just a preconceived belief or rather a generalisation . Just because your "adult child" isn't having a good experience studying at Newcastle ,that doesn't mean others won't too . Thank you for the info nonetheless
In 2019 Newcastle was ranked 5 th in the guardian with high student satisfaction scores, it’s now 18th with falling student satisfaction. I don’t generally put too much stock into these things but I have seen evidence of poor teaching and terrible attitudes towards adult learners. It’s a very large school, its approach seems more like crowd control and a lot of your learning will be teach yourself medicine from the internet. I’ve seen great developments coming out of other schools such as the Capsule online learning environment but Newcastle seem to have a case of exceptionalism. As I said it’s a great city, I’ve stopped recommending it. It hope it improves, it’s a shame. All depends on what you want, your learning style and whether you care about a supportive learning environment. Each to their own.
UK/World rankings can be extremely inaccurate for measuring the quality of a university. According to the Guardian rankings, Aberdeen is ranked above Cambridge and Oxford. Keele, St. Andrews and Swansea are all ranked above Oxford. Some of the other well-reputed universities such as Kings, Barts and Manchester are all ranked below Newcastle. If anyone is interested in student satisfaction, Edinburgh, Kings and Manchester have lower student satisfaction ratings in comparison to Newcastle! All I’m trying to say here is that rankings and student satisfaction ratings are arguably useless. Well, I study medicine at Newcastle and recommend anyone to apply to Newcastle if you prefer CBL/lecture-based teaching style. I applied to Newcastle specifically because I wanted to learn through lectures, and I do not regret it one bit. The teaching quality is very good, and so far, I do not have any issues with how we are taught. Even though Newcastle is a large medical school, we are divided into 16 or so seminar groups, each consisting of 20-25 students. We go through the topics learnt during lectures and also have clinical and communication sessions in these small groups. We have clinical placements starting from year 1, which is not quite common with other med schools. Constant changes are being made to the curriculum to improve the course structure from feedback from previous cohorts. I have met some of the most friendly coursemates and professors at Newcastle, and if you do find someone rude/unfriendly, you can always raise a concern. The support system at Newcastle is excellent, and again, you can always raise a concern if you are unhappy with the services provided. Newcastle has got 2 huge tertiary care hospitals, so you will have lots of opportunities to work towards your portfolio for speciality training. There is absolutely no reason for you to not have Newcastle as one of your choices.
here are the links to the guardian ranking for medicine and student satisfaction ratings.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2023/sep/09/best-uk-universities-for-medicine-league-table
https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/medicine?sortby=student-satisfaction
https://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2023/sep/09/best-uk-universities-for-medicine-league-table
https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/medicine?sortby=student-satisfaction
Original post by Alvi_04
Hello, I am a gap year student with achieved A-level grades of AAB, I've emailed Newcastle and they confirmed I'm eligible for a contextual offer of 2 grades below the standard offer. I have scored 2890 B1 on my ucat, do I have a good chance of getting an interview?
Yes, I would have thought so
Original post by medintl
UK/World rankings can be extremely inaccurate for measuring the quality of a university. According to the Guardian rankings, Aberdeen is ranked above Cambridge and Oxford. Keele, St. Andrews and Swansea are all ranked above Oxford. Some of the other well-reputed universities such as Kings, Barts and Manchester are all ranked below Newcastle. If anyone is interested in student satisfaction, Edinburgh, Kings and Manchester have lower student satisfaction ratings in comparison to Newcastle! All I’m trying to say here is that rankings and student satisfaction ratings are arguably useless. Well, I study medicine at Newcastle and recommend anyone to apply to Newcastle if you prefer CBL/lecture-based teaching style. I applied to Newcastle specifically because I wanted to learn through lectures, and I do not regret it one bit. The teaching quality is very good, and so far, I do not have any issues with how we are taught. Even though Newcastle is a large medical school, we are divided into 16 or so seminar groups, each consisting of 20-25 students. We go through the topics learnt during lectures and also have clinical and communication sessions in these small groups. We have clinical placements starting from year 1, which is not quite common with other med schools. Constant changes are being made to the curriculum to improve the course structure from feedback from previous cohorts. I have met some of the most friendly coursemates and professors at Newcastle, and if you do find someone rude/unfriendly, you can always raise a concern. The support system at Newcastle is excellent, and again, you can always raise a concern if you are unhappy with the services provided. Newcastle has got 2 huge tertiary care hospitals, so you will have lots of opportunities to work towards your portfolio for speciality training. There is absolutely no reason for you to not have Newcastle as one of your choices.
There are some very good reasons that schools such as Aberdeen, Keele and Swansea are ranked above Oxford. For some time Newcastle was positioned well above the likes of Kings. It is sad to see Newcastle tumble down the rankings, it has changed considerably, I don't think it has coped well post expansion in student numbers. Good to hear students are enjoying the preclinical years. The clinical years seem to be whear students are expressing most disappointment. The environment seems to be much less supportive, often disorganised with variable and low value teaching; attendance is monitored, yet timetabling often shambolic. The feedback I have received is that the time consuming and compulsory teaching in the clinical years does not prepare you well for your exams. Medical school is expensive and I think schools must take responsibility for ensuring every student has equal opportunity to learn all examined clinical skills, they should be diligently taught. Independant learning is a vital skill but your success at medical school should not depend on your ability to pay for online resources or additional support. This is a very exam heavy school with a pretty brutal policy towards exam failure, so I'm not sure anyone has that much time for portfolio work. But horses for courses, I would say this suits an independant learner who really doesn't mind using Pass medicine and Quesmed to teach themselves medicine but attendance is monitored so you will be very pressured for time. I have stopped recommending it but I don't recommend Kings either. Early clinical exposure is pretty common these days in all but Oxford and Cambridge.
Original post by Sares100
Does applying to Partners put you at a disadvantage, ucat 3010 b1
Predicted A*A*A?
Predicted A*A*A?
No, but you do have to Firm Newcastle and attend the summer school
(Original post by daisy0575)There are some very good reasons that schools such as Aberdeen, Keele and Swansea are ranked above Oxford. For some time Newcastle was positioned well above the likes of Kings. It is sad to see Newcastle tumble down the rankings, it has changed considerably, I don't think it has coped well post expansion in student numbers. Good to hear students are enjoying the preclinical years. The clinical years seem to be whear students are expressing most disappointment. The environment seems to be much less supportive, often disorganised with variable and low value teaching; attendance is monitored, yet timetabling often shambolic. The feedback I have received is that the time consuming and compulsory teaching in the clinical years does not prepare you well for your exams. Medical school is expensive and I think schools must take responsibility for ensuring every student has equal opportunity to learn all examined clinical skills, they should be diligently taught. Independant learning is a vital skill but your success at medical school should not depend on your ability to pay for online resources or additional support. This is a very exam heavy school with a pretty brutal policy towards exam failure, so I'm not sure anyone has that much time for portfolio work. But horses for courses, I would say this suits an independant learner who really doesn't mind using Pass medicine and Quesmed to teach themselves medicine but attendance is monitored so you will be very pressured for time. I have stopped recommending it but I don't recommend Kings either. Early clinical exposure is pretty common these days in all but Oxford and Cambridge.
well it is quite unfortunate that your adult child hasn't had a great experience. Having talked to a few students in their clinical year, they find the course structure to have improved quite a lot in the past couple of years. And most of them are quite happy with how things are at present. The university is trying its best to improve its course structure and this is quite evident. I would recommend students to apply to newcastle. there have been a few concerns raised on reddit about clinical placements in bristol and manchester, which have been reputed to be good medical schools. so yeah, what matters is if the uni is making appropriate changes to the feedback it receives from the students.
well it is quite unfortunate that your adult child hasn't had a great experience. Having talked to a few students in their clinical year, they find the course structure to have improved quite a lot in the past couple of years. And most of them are quite happy with how things are at present. The university is trying its best to improve its course structure and this is quite evident. I would recommend students to apply to newcastle. there have been a few concerns raised on reddit about clinical placements in bristol and manchester, which have been reputed to be good medical schools. so yeah, what matters is if the uni is making appropriate changes to the feedback it receives from the students.
I don’t think I’ve said they haven’t had a great experience. Thankfully they have been successful but generally the positives have been despite rather because of the medical school. I’m aware of some very concerning issues, whilst not directly affecting them, it has been reflective of significant issues at the school.
What all the schools you mention have in common is that they are some of the largest, Nottingham also suffers. My original post was not to intended to convince existing students that their medical school choice is bad or cause undue anxiety but simply to convey my concern to A level students making their choices now. Many of the less ‘big name’ schools have invested significantly in their curriculum and seem genuinely motivated to support their students to succeed.
As a medical educator, in a country with a shortage of doctors, I believe that if you are bright enough to get into medical school, you are bright enough to pass. In the vast majority of cases if you fail an resit, even by 0.5%, you will be asked to leave the course. Over the years there have been some heartbreaking examples. It’s my view that it is often not the students that have failed but the school. Some of the patterns around failing students seem concerning, the school has declined to publish its failure rate broken down by sex and ethnicity. This is the school that made the national headlines for entertaining some pretty inappropriate comments about someone’s dress. It doesn’t have the most diverse senior leadership.
I would encourage all aspiring medical students to ask some challenging questions of the institutions they will spend 4/5 or 6 years at. What support do you give to students in difficulty, what is your failure and drop out rate, what support can students access if they are carers, or have neurodiversity or a disability, or indeed a less affluent background? If any of these apply to you then you might want to consider an alternative school.
What all the schools you mention have in common is that they are some of the largest, Nottingham also suffers. My original post was not to intended to convince existing students that their medical school choice is bad or cause undue anxiety but simply to convey my concern to A level students making their choices now. Many of the less ‘big name’ schools have invested significantly in their curriculum and seem genuinely motivated to support their students to succeed.
As a medical educator, in a country with a shortage of doctors, I believe that if you are bright enough to get into medical school, you are bright enough to pass. In the vast majority of cases if you fail an resit, even by 0.5%, you will be asked to leave the course. Over the years there have been some heartbreaking examples. It’s my view that it is often not the students that have failed but the school. Some of the patterns around failing students seem concerning, the school has declined to publish its failure rate broken down by sex and ethnicity. This is the school that made the national headlines for entertaining some pretty inappropriate comments about someone’s dress. It doesn’t have the most diverse senior leadership.
I would encourage all aspiring medical students to ask some challenging questions of the institutions they will spend 4/5 or 6 years at. What support do you give to students in difficulty, what is your failure and drop out rate, what support can students access if they are carers, or have neurodiversity or a disability, or indeed a less affluent background? If any of these apply to you then you might want to consider an alternative school.
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