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Reply 1180

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by Diplomat_Runner
11.12! My harshest criticism was on my written assessment which I thought I did strongly on. My best feedback was on the group scenario which I thought I bombed (there are no individual scores for the tests).

Well done.

You better be organising a virtual party.

Reply 1181

Has anyone heard from GES yet? Seen a lot for policy but none for GES, GSS etc

Reply 1182

i just got my offer through today as well

faqs:

did my fsac early december

score was 11.43

first choice is gov policy

Reply 1183

congrats to everyone who has received an offer so far! i have my ac coming up this month - any tips on how to prepare, other than reading the info pack?

Reply 1184

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by aespri
congrats to everyone who has received an offer so far! i have my ac coming up this month - any tips on how to prepare, other than reading the info pack?

The examples in the pack are strikingly similar to the actual thing so use them for reference and don't waste money on paid guides. Get comfortable speaking on camera if it's not something you're used to and practice writing under timed conditions/processing lots of info in a short period of time. There are apps for this and happy to give recommendations. Finally, go to bed early the night before and have a good breakfast/cup of tea/coffee before you start. Good luck! ☺️

Reply 1185

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by aespri
congrats to everyone who has received an offer so far! i have my ac coming up this month - any tips on how to prepare, other than reading the info pack?

I agree with diplomat runner, the fsac guide is pretty similar to the actual thing, and it really is the best way to prepare, but i’d also add these things for when u do the actual ac (based on my experience):

Written:
Dont waste too much time on the structure of your piece. They said bulletpoint-ish paragraphs are fine and it shouldnt be shorter than a page but no longer than 1 1/2 pages. i honestly just numbered each point and referred to them as idea 1/2/3 etc when talking about it in my bullet points. It seems to be fine since my best task was my written.

Team:
Don’t be reluctant to talk incase you accidentally talk at the same time as someone else, because it will happen either way. One downside of being online is there is a lot of “oh sorry you go talk first” because everyone ends up talking over/at the same time as another and thats ok. So if u want to say something, just say it!

Make sure your points are evidence-based, and don’t be brief about them. If you’ve also changed your view on something, i.e. you started to prefer another policy over the one you initially thought was best, make sure u acknowledge it and say why.

Leadership:
The possible assessor questions presented in the fsac guide are pretty good already, so i’d say just do the examples and draft up how you would answer those questions and i think u’d be okay in the real life thing. I mean, of course there are unpredicted ones but thats the whole point of the exercise - to think on your feet.

Thats all i can think of, hope it helps. Best of luck, you got this! 🙂

Reply 1186

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by Diplomat_Runner
The examples in the pack are strikingly similar to the actual thing so use them for reference and don't waste money on paid guides. Get comfortable speaking on camera if it's not something you're used to and practice writing under timed conditions/processing lots of info in a short period of time. There are apps for this and happy to give recommendations. Finally, go to bed early the night before and have a good breakfast/cup of tea/coffee before you start. Good luck! ☺️

thank you so much for this! would definitely love the app recs

Reply 1187

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by jinji1107
I agree with diplomat runner, the fsac guide is pretty similar to the actual thing, and it really is the best way to prepare, but i’d also add these things for when u do the actual ac (based on my experience):

Written:
Dont waste too much time on the structure of your piece. In one of the SDIP meetings on fsac tips, they said bulletpoint-ish paragraphs are fine and it shouldnt be shorter than a page but no longer than 1 1/2 pages. i honestly just numbered each point and referred to them as idea 1/2/3 etc when talking about it in my bullet points. It seems to be fine since my best task was my written.

Team:
Don’t be reluctant to talk incase you accidentally talk at the same as someone else, because it will happen either way. One downside of being online is there is a lot of “oh sorry you go talk first” because everyone ends up talking over/at the same time as another and thats ok. So if u want to say something, just say it!

Make sure your points are evidence-based, and don’t be brief about them. If you’ve also changed your view on something, i.e. you started to prefer another policy over the one you initially thought was best, make sure u acknowledge it and say why.

Leadership:
The possible assessor questions presented in the fsac guide are pretty good already, so i’d say just do the examples and draft up how you would answer those questions and i think u’d be okay in the real life thing. I mean, of course there are unpredicted ones but thats the whole point of the exercise - to think on your feet.

Thats all i can think of, hope it helps. Best of luck, you got this! 🙂

that's great advice, thanks so much 🙂 in the written scenario, was it entirely written or did you then have to present your ideas? I've seen some people say it's important to come up with creative / different ideas, do you agree? I'm worried I won't be able to think of anything particularly outside of the box lol

Reply 1188

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by aespri
that's great advice, thanks so much 🙂 in the written scenario, was it entirely written or did you then have to present your ideas? I've seen some people say it's important to come up with creative / different ideas, do you agree? I'm worried I won't be able to think of anything particularly outside of the box lol

it was entirely written and in terms of coming up with creative ideas, the feedback i got said i had some really creative and fresh approaches but when i was writing it, i really thought it was nothing too outside of the box lol. It's all very subjective i guess and so i suppose all i can say is, it is important but at the same time avoid overthinking too much and spend a lot of time trying to think of an idea thats "original" because ur 50 minutes writing time will definitely fly by.

Reply 1189

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by aespri
thank you so much for this! would definitely love the app recs

I use Elevate; there's a Processing game to incresse your reading speed as well as games where you read a body of text then have to choose the correct answer to make sure you understood the info. I'm dyslexic but I've found it to really help in my information processing. ☺️

Reply 1190

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by jinji1107
it was entirely written and in terms of coming up with creative ideas, the feedback i got said i had some really creative and fresh approaches but when i was writing it, i really thought it was nothing too outside of the box lol. It's all very subjective i guess and so i suppose all i can say is, it is important but at the same time avoid overthinking too much and spend a lot of time trying to think of an idea thats "original" because ur 50 minutes writing time will definitely fly by.

I also want to comment that my feedback was that my ideas were "unremarkable" but I articulated myself well enough to pass. I agree, don't spend too much time worrying about your ideas being amazing; as long as you follow the given structure and can back up what you're saying you should be fine. ☺️

Reply 1191

Following up the excellent advice from Diplomat_Runner and jinji1107, don't worry too much if you're completely uninspired or have no ideas in the written scenario. I spent more time than was wise reading the brief and trying to come up with ideas and then had about 15 minutes to actually write it up. What helped is that I'd bullet pointed some ideas, however uninspired, and so I just had time to transform them into logical prose. I used every second and the time does indeed fly by, but if writing is difficult for you or you run out of time remember that bullet points are ok so long as you use full sentences.

Use the template they give you and make sure your writing is clear, refer back to the objectives and ensure there's some sort of logical progression. If you have brilliant ideas, great, but if not just come up with something and argue it well.

There's no presentation for the written scenario, you just submit your work at the end of the exercise. It's less obvious in the written scenario, but enthusiasm also goes a long way. I found that smiling and a deep breath when needed really helped me enjoy the day.

Reply 1192

Yesterday found out I passed FSAC with 12.13 for Diplo and Dev and have made it to final assessment board. I was wondering if anyone knows if, in the event that I’m unsuccessful in that, am I still likely to get my second choice which did not need that extra stage ?

Reply 1193

Original post
by Diplomat_Runner
I also want to comment that my feedback was that my ideas were "unremarkable" but I articulated myself well enough to pass. I agree, don't spend too much time worrying about your ideas being amazing; as long as you follow the given structure and can back up what you're saying you should be fine. ☺️

Was there any structure to follow beyond ideas and then possible issues? I think I did ok but didn't realise I had to lay out solutions too until near the end so couldn't write more than a sentence at the end of each paragraph about my idea for a solution.

Reply 1194

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by ben.wilcox
Yesterday found out I passed FSAC with 12.13 for Diplo and Dev and have made it to final assessment board. I was wondering if anyone knows if, in the event that I’m unsuccessful in that, am I still likely to get my second choice which did not need that extra stage ?

Does anyone know the answer to this? Obviously this particular score of 12.13 is strong but I'm unclear about what happens if unsuccessful at the final selection board? I'm assuming it depends on what the lower choices were? Thanks!
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Reply 1195

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by Arrabbiata
Was there any structure to follow beyond ideas and then possible issues? I think I did ok but didn't realise I had to lay out solutions too until near the end so couldn't write more than a sentence at the end of each paragraph about my idea for a solution.

There is a provided structure but I won't go into too much detail as it's potentially giving others who read this an unfair advantage. I also did what jinji1107 suggested: I planned using bullet points then fleshed them out into sentences since I didn't have time to do full paragraphs. 🙂

Reply 1196

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by Argyll&Bute
Does anyone know the answer to this? Obviously this particular score of 12.13 is strong but I'm unclear about what happens if unsuccessful at the final selection board? I'm assuming it depends on what the lower choices were? Thanks!

From last years thread, if you fail the FSB for your first choice, you're then considered for your second choice as long as you meet the pass mark for that stream. IIRC Diplo has one of the highest pass marks so if you get to the FSB for that you've likely passed your other choices!

Reply 1197

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by Argyll&Bute
Does anyone know the answer to this? Obviously this particular score of 12.13 is strong but I'm unclear about what happens if unsuccessful at the final selection board? I'm assuming it depends on what the lower choices were? Thanks!

Yea, I remember having a sort of Q&A session thing I went to a while back where one of the people running it from the CS said it was their understanding that you would be dropped down into a lower preference one by default. I think in previous years diplo and dev (much like HofP) has been quite competitive so I would imagine the FSAC score required to reach the final selection board may well be higher than the score required for my lower choice options such and Digital and Cyber for example, obviously I may well be completely off the mark here but that’s my current understanding of it, but as is obvious from my initial question I’m really not 100% on this and was wondering if anyone else had anything more clear?

Reply 1198

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by ben.wilcox
Yea, I remember having a sort of Q&A session thing I went to a while back where one of the people running it from the CS said it was their understanding that you would be dropped down into a lower preference one by default. I think in previous years diplo and dev (much like HofP) has been quite competitive so I would imagine the FSAC score required to reach the final selection board may well be higher than the score required for my lower choice options such and Digital and Cyber for example, obviously I may well be completely off the mark here but that’s my current understanding of it, but as is obvious from my initial question I’m really not 100% on this and was wondering if anyone else had anything more clear?

I think you've understood correctly. If you don't pass your first choice scheme at FSB you would normally still be considered for your other preferences in order, provided that you passed the FSAC for those schemes.

Where it gets tricky is if you need to do FSBs for more than one scheme. Someone running one of the CS events said that they did multiple FSBs and were accepted onto their second choice scheme after FSB. So be prepared to do multiple FSBs if your lower choice schemes require them.

Reply 1199

Original post
by Diplomat_Runner
From last years thread, if you fail the FSB for your first choice, you're then considered for your second choice as long as you meet the pass mark for that stream. IIRC Diplo has one of the highest pass marks so if you get to the FSB for that you've likely passed your other choices!

Cheers!

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