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Reply 80

hey anyone that does iliad for WOH is family a particularly big theme? i do ody and aeneid and am thinking the paper could be family themed....

Reply 81

Hey guys! super cramming for tuesday, i was wondering any predictions for iliad and Aeneid themes to come up. Also if anyone has some nice broad scholars that would be super cool

Reply 82

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by alecks
hey anyone that does iliad for WOH is family a particularly big theme? i do ody and aeneid and am thinking the paper could be family themed....

I do odyssey and Aeneid as well, what are you thinking for it 🙂

Reply 83

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by Hogwarts14
I do odyssey and Aeneid as well, what are you thinking for it 🙂

telemachus 20
venus (or juno) 20
father-sons OR parent-child 30 for either of them

maybe also a dual-focus pietas-furor 30 for aeneid seeing as ocr have been super into their dual focuses

Reply 84

does anyone have an essay plans for father/son relationships or the role of gods for ody/aen ? i beg :frown:

Reply 85

Odyssey 30 marker predictions ?

Reply 86

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by Sademct
Hi guys, just a question
I'm studying the aeneid and iliad and have my exam on Tuesday, but I'm really struggling to remember modern scholarship
Any advice?

My favourite way and the way I find helps me best remember is using acronymic sentences. I pick all the quotes that I want, making sure to have a broad range that cover all themes. Then I pick a keyword from each quote, and use the first letter of each keyword to form a new, more memorable sentence. For example:
If my keywords were
"Rage"
"Fascination"
"Death"
"Savagery"
Then I might make the sentence
"Real Fairies Don't Sleep" or something similar. Then in the exam I would recite my sentence and think 'Real - rage' which should then trigger the rest of the quote. This way I only have to remember one or two acronymic sentences instead of remembering 12 quotes.
I hope this is helpful (and coherent)

Reply 87

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by alecks
telemachus 20
venus (or juno) 20
father-sons OR parent-child 30 for either of them
maybe also a dual-focus pietas-furor 30 for aeneid seeing as ocr have been super into their dual focuses

what else could you write about for telemachus, other than his character development + impeccable xenia? panicking a bit 😩

Reply 88

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by nabihaaa
what else could you write about for telemachus, other than his character development + impeccable xenia? panicking a bit 😩

i would prob do xenia, character development, treatment of penelope, ability as a successor to odysseus (man of the house, king of ithaca, etc)

Reply 89

Any predictions for WOH paper 1 Iliad and Aeneid? I know pretty much nothing about The Aeneid, so I am praying The Iliad will carry me through the paper tomorrow.

Reply 90

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by Phoebexsp
Any predictions for WOH paper 1 Iliad and Aeneid? I know pretty much nothing about The Aeneid, so I am praying The Iliad will carry me through the paper tomorrow.

Heyy! I wanted to say, totally in the same boat btw, super cramming Aeneid right now ngl, My teacher said that on the Iliad side they could bring up smaller characters like they did last year with Nestor but with Aeneid there is less of a threat with that because it is quite clear who are the most important characters. You will probably not get an isolated Q on any female characters who aren't Dido, Aeneas is the most likely person to be asked about obvs, the gods will most likely be linked together in a 30 but the only ones she could see getting a 20 is Jupiter, Juno and Venus, Turnus could def also have a question. I hope this is of some help; the way I am cramming is looking at key points for each theme and character and watching MoAn inc Youtube summaries on the Iliad. Soz if this was all irrelevant but I so get you right now! Good luck!!

Reply 91

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by laraleq
Heyy! I wanted to say, totally in the same boat btw, super cramming Aeneid right now ngl, My teacher said that on the Iliad side they could bring up smaller characters like they did last year with Nestor but with Aeneid there is less of a threat with that because it is quite clear who are the most important characters. You will probably not get an isolated Q on any female characters who aren't Dido, Aeneas is the most likely person to be asked about obvs, the gods will most likely be linked together in a 30 but the only ones she could see getting a 20 is Jupiter, Juno and Venus, Turnus could def also have a question. I hope this is of some help; the way I am cramming is looking at key points for each theme and character and watching MoAn inc Youtube summaries on the Iliad. Soz if this was all irrelevant but I so get you right now! Good luck!!

Thanks so much for your comment! I just had no idea what to do because OCR are hard to predict. Really hoping it isn’t a small character in The Iliad because I think I will cry! There is so much to look at. I’ve started making character profiles on some of the main characters in The Aeneid. Really don’t know how I am going to do in the 30 marker. I never can think of theorists!

Reply 92

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by Phoebexsp
Any predictions for WOH paper 1 Iliad and Aeneid? I know pretty much nothing about The Aeneid, so I am praying The Iliad will carry me through the paper tomorrow.

Me exactly. Someone said the Iliad could be the influence of a god over the epic, death and mortality, or xenia but I really haven't seen many Iliad predictions. Crossing my fingers its a good one because I really don't want to have to do the Aeneid question

Reply 93

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by Phoebexsp
Thanks so much for your comment! I just had no idea what to do because OCR are hard to predict. Really hoping it isn’t a small character in The Iliad because I think I will cry! There is so much to look at. I’ve started making character profiles on some of the main characters in The Aeneid. Really don’t know how I am going to do in the 30 marker. I never can think of theorists!

My classics teacher did remind us all that the Iliad and Aeneid are one of the most written about texts of all time, so if you are really in a jam and you can't think of your third theorist you could probs just make it up and the examiner wouldn't know otherwise. Like some of the quotes i have for theorists are from lectures and those are valid even though they were never written down, so like at the end of the day if you are really stuck just make it up but it is obvs worth knowing a few. If you know for sure you are gonna pick the Iliad question for the 30 you only need to focus on scholars for that one text, can be a bit risky but it cuts the amount you have to do down significantly. No probs at all, I know there is so much to focus on it is like rlly scary, but you got this!!

Reply 94

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by laraleq
My classics teacher did remind us all that the Iliad and Aeneid are one of the most written about texts of all time, so if you are really in a jam and you can't think of your third theorist you could probs just make it up and the examiner wouldn't know otherwise. Like some of the quotes i have for theorists are from lectures and those are valid even though they were never written down, so like at the end of the day if you are really stuck just make it up but it is obvs worth knowing a few. If you know for sure you are gonna pick the Iliad question for the 30 you only need to focus on scholars for that one text, can be a bit risky but it cuts the amount you have to do down significantly. No probs at all, I know there is so much to focus on it is like rlly scary, but you got this!!

Thank you so much. My teacher said that you can just name drop scholars and the examiners have to believe it, so i am hoping i can do that. Good luck to you too!

Reply 95

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by laraleq
My classics teacher did remind us all that the Iliad and Aeneid are one of the most written about texts of all time, so if you are really in a jam and you can't think of your third theorist you could probs just make it up and the examiner wouldn't know otherwise. Like some of the quotes i have for theorists are from lectures and those are valid even though they were never written down, so like at the end of the day if you are really stuck just make it up but it is obvs worth knowing a few. If you know for sure you are gonna pick the Iliad question for the 30 you only need to focus on scholars for that one text, can be a bit risky but it cuts the amount you have to do down significantly. No probs at all, I know there is so much to focus on it is like rlly scary, but you got this!!

I'd agree with this but be careful if you make it up because if an examiner comes across a scholar they are not familiar with they do look it up and try and find who is being referenced. I'd recommend knowing scholars names who have discussed the Iliad and Aeneid in depth and then if you have to make up a quote stick one of their names on it or leave it as just 'a scholar'

Reply 96

remember that if you need a scholar you can say morrison, jones, or jenkyns because lbr they probably did say it

Reply 97

At this point, lying is the way forward . One time I used a Dolly Parton quote about the loss of war "you can't have a rainbow, without a little rain" and all was fine.

Reply 98

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by laraleq
Heyy! I wanted to say, totally in the same boat btw, super cramming Aeneid right now ngl, My teacher said that on the Iliad side they could bring up smaller characters like they did last year with Nestor but with Aeneid there is less of a threat with that because it is quite clear who are the most important characters. You will probably not get an isolated Q on any female characters who aren't Dido, Aeneas is the most likely person to be asked about obvs, the gods will most likely be linked together in a 30 but the only ones she could see getting a 20 is Jupiter, Juno and Venus, Turnus could def also have a question. I hope this is of some help; the way I am cramming is looking at key points for each theme and character and watching MoAn inc Youtube summaries on the Iliad. Soz if this was all irrelevant but I so get you right now! Good luck!!

the 20m was on turnus last year so it won't be this year!

Reply 99

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by SilverJet
At this point, lying is the way forward . One time I used a Dolly Parton quote about the loss of war "you can't have a rainbow, without a little rain" and all was fine.

so real

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