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Rishi Sunak proposes the Advanced British Standard

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Original post by Wired_1800
It wont be changed next year

I may not do my A Levels next year, or even in a couple years time. I hope I can do it before A Levels are not an option anymore.
Original post by Anony345533
I may not do my A Levels next year, or even in a couple years time. I hope I can do it before A Levels are not an option anymore.


Best to do them asap
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Original post by Anony345533
I may not do my A Levels next year, or even in a couple years time. I hope I can do it before A Levels are not an option anymore.


2033.

Its only possible in England because of devolved education policy and it'll will need thousands more teachers to teach it.

This sort of daft idea is a regular event.
It wont happen.

It falls into the same bucket as Cameron's potty idea about name-blind UCAS applications. He was convinced we are all bigoted racists denying non-white kids a University education - where there was absolutely no evidence of this. It was a great dog-whistle at a Party conference, UCAS wasted time running trials that helped no-one. And then we all forgot all about it again. Like the idea of post-results UCAS applications. That pops up about every 5 years. And then gets buried. Again.

This is all Tory bollox.
Do not loose one moment's sleep over it.
Kids who haven't got a grasp on maths or English by the age of 16 won't benefit from another 2 years. Better them move into vocational courses or apprenticeships.
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Reply 44
We already have a system to teach a broader curriculum at 16+.

Its called IB.
Luckily i’m going to sixth form next year so it won’t affect me but I honestly do not see the point in it.

I thought the whole point of a levels was that you can specialise in a few subjects before going to uni. Honestly I have been looking forward to dropping subjects like english because I genuinely want to cry every time I go to an english lesson but under the new plans people would be forced to struggle for two years longer.

There are also not enough teachers to cope with the increase in english and maths being taught at a higher level. This would have a direct impact on the amount of learning (no free periods) so it will be harder to stay on top of the workload. How does doing 5 subjects allow you to specialise in what you actually want to do? It will just raise expectations at uni and discourage more people from getting further education. Uni courses will also need to change to deal with the fact that 18 year olds will have less knowledge of those subjects.

I have no idea why the government thinks that their new plans would make anyone want to vote for them in the next election. Frankly it is a load of fake promises as this plan will never go ahead. I read that it would not be implemented till 2033/34 in ten years time so those who would affected (if this even goes ahead) are in primary school
Original post by agent_duck343
Luckily i’m going to sixth form next year so it won’t affect me but I honestly do not see the point in it.

I thought the whole point of a levels was that you can specialise in a few subjects before going to uni. Honestly I have been looking forward to dropping subjects like english because I genuinely want to cry every time I go to an english lesson but under the new plans people would be forced to struggle for two years longer.

There are also not enough teachers to cope with the increase in english and maths being taught at a higher level. This would have a direct impact on the amount of learning (no free periods) so it will be harder to stay on top of the workload. How does doing 5 subjects allow you to specialise in what you actually want to do? It will just raise expectations at uni and discourage more people from getting further education. Uni courses will also need to change to deal with the fact that 18 year olds will have less knowledge of those subjects.

I have no idea why the government thinks that their new plans would make anyone want to vote for them in the next election. Frankly it is a load of fake promises as this plan will never go ahead. I read that it would not be implemented till 2033/34 in ten years time so those who would affected (if this even goes ahead) are in primary school


Although not asked for, I would suggest that you do not specialise too early. Your generation is poised to work until you are 70, if not longer. Unless you are 100% certain that your current interests will last the next decades, i would suggest a flexible set of subjects and interests. What you need is a good foundation with sufficient depth and breadth.

Some young people are encouraged to focus too early then end up with mickey mouse degrees imho with no real value in the workplace only to end up on the dole. Guess what, they then complain about the Government as though it was Sunak, Rees-Mogg or Gove who encouraged them to make tough choices.

In the end, it was not their fault, they were told to make life choices at 16 or 17 when they were not even allowed to vote or make real adult choices.

Just my opinion.
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Original post by McGinger

This is all Tory bollox.
Do not loose one moment's sleep over it.


Post qualifications applications is - or at least it was - Labour Party policy as well.

Tuesday 13 August 2019 / 9:30 PM Angela Rayner / Archive / Education: Labour announces radical shake up of higher education
https://labour.org.uk/press/labour-announces-radical-shake-higher-education-admissions-system/

It is also supported by the UCU.

Sooner or later there will have to be reform of an outmoded 18+ qualification that dates back to 1951 and was designed to serve an academic élite of less than 4% of the age cohort.

The structure, content and timing of any change needs to be very carefully planned and should have cross-party support. This government's proposals are merely a starting point for the debate. Meanwhile, the priority must be adequate funding for the system we already have.
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I don’t think that it should replace T-levels, there’s frankly too many people doing A-levels and going to university when they’re not cut out for it or because they were pressurised in to going down such educational route, scrapping T-levels would make things worse in my opinion.
It’s just headline grabbing bs from a weak PM who knows he won’t be in power to implement it.

If you’re 16 or over and worried about this then please don’t. Instead register to vote and let’s get some real change by voting in MPs who aren’t just in it for a quick profit.

https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote
Original post by PQ
If you’re 16 or over and worried about this then please don’t. Instead register to vote and let’s get some real change by voting in MPs who aren’t just in it for a quick profit.

If you can find any!
Original post by Supermature
If you can find any!


True - but any huge surge in voter registrations from 16-20 year olds is positive for encouraging MPs and candidates to actually start thinking and engaging with what young people want from them instead of throwing them on a sacrificial bonfire to satisfy the daily mail, the sun, the times and the telegraph.
Original post by PQ
True - but any huge surge in voter registrations from 16-20 year olds is positive for encouraging MPs and candidates to actually start thinking and engaging with what young people want from them instead of throwing them on a sacrificial bonfire to satisfy the daily mail, the sun, the times and the telegraph.

Fair comment! :wink:
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Original post by PQ
True - but any huge surge in voter registrations from 16-20 year olds is positive for encouraging MPs and candidates to actually start thinking and engaging with what young people want from them instead of throwing them on a sacrificial bonfire to satisfy the daily mail, the sun, the times and the telegraph.


While the premise is correct, it would not impact the education proposals. There are valid reasons to make significant changes to the current A levels even if you disagree with this exact prescription. It's one of the few government policies that I actually think Sunak probably wants himself rather than is designed to create a headline.
Original post by Rakas21
While the premise is correct, it would not impact the education proposals. There are valid reasons to make significant changes to the current A levels even if you disagree with this exact prescription. It's one of the few government policies that I actually think Sunak probably wants himself rather than is designed to create a headline.


While there's very valid reasons for reviewing qualifications from 14-18 there's zero chance that Rishi Sunak's proposals will come to anything....and his government's record on reform of qualifications is dire. The reforms to English GCSE lead to a 15% fall in take up of English A level. Likewise the absolute **** show of the introduction of T levels and the removal of funding from other vocational level 3 qualifications isn't an indication of a government who knows how to make changes to the education system. The staffing crisis in schools and colleges (particularly around maths) isn't improving or being addressed by the government so expanding maths education to L3 study isn't a policy they're genuinely committed to or taking seriously. The Conservative conference had a panel on maths education made up of zero people with maths teaching experience.

Sunak himself is saying that his plans would take 10 years to implement...he's an unserious man announcing an unserious policy
Regardless of whether there's issues to be addressed in 14-18 curriculum and qualifications what's been announced by him this week is absolutely worthy of contempt
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Reply 55
Original post by Uni_student3132

He said it would ensure children leave school "literate and numerate".



From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-67008206

Thoughts?


where does it say that in the article? read it a few times over and can't find that quote.

as far as i can see that's not what he said. if this is your interpretation, then fairs. but just proves the need for media literacy in schools cuz no one even noticed reporting quotes that didn't happen.
Yikes.:facepalm:
Looks like the current PM learned nothing from all the scorching criticism and hostility from secondary school teachers that similar proposals made by Ed Miliband generated. :stupid:

The only real changes that need to be phrased in for teenaged educational students in mainstream schools should be: qualifications in basic maths & basic english literacy, lessons in essential life skills, the basics of uk law, what is illegal in terms of selfies & social media, more focus on making students aware of their options in terms of apprenticeships and post 16 paid alternatives to academic education.
Original post by Genesiss
where does it say that in the article? read it a few times over and can't find that quote.

as far as i can see that's not what he said. if this is your interpretation, then fairs. but just proves the need for media literacy in schools cuz no one even noticed reporting quotes that didn't happen.

1. BBC News updated the article. Everything apart from the bottom two lines was directly from the original article.

2. Rishi still said it, even if the BBC doesn't have it in their article anymore.
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If this comes in I swear I feel like I am going to do something to myself like I really want to do my A Levels.
Original post by Anony345533
If this comes in I swear I feel like I am going to do something to myself like I really want to do my A Levels.

Please don't allow yourself to get too upset over this. These are only proposals and A-levels are here to stay for the foreseeable future. If you are at school or college, you might wish to discuss your concerns with the appropriate members of staff. I am sure they will put your mind at rest.

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