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Reply 20

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by StriderHort
That's really the same query again. I can't answer, as much as I'm a Scottish alumni I've never had to fight with them or experience complaint processes. The only thing I weighed in on was to tell you that a lawyers letter won't faze them at all, especially if they're already calling you vexatious. For 200 p/h save your money imo, there might be a reason none but a rookie will take this task on.


That doesn't mean you need to be dismissive of those who are suffering consequences of service failures, harassment or discrimination at their respective universities. Not everyone accused of vexatious complaint is necessarily a vexatious complainant since it can be a label slabbed on those bringing up problems the university is unwilling to address or touch those who they can't afford to lose.

Reply 21

@The_Lonely_Goatherd do you have any advice for OP?

Reply 22

Original post
by Anonymous
That doesn't mean you need to be dismissive of those who are suffering consequences of service failures, harassment or discrimination at their respective universities. Not everyone accused of vexatious complaint is necessarily a vexatious complainant since it can be a label slabbed on those bringing up problems the university is unwilling to address or touch those who they can't afford to lose.


I specifically made no call on whether your complaints have merit because I don't know, I merely told you a lawyers letter won't have the effect you thought it would and that as other users said, the term vexatious being used means they no longer take you seriously and is in no way my decision or problem.

Reply 23

Original post
by Scotney
@The_Lonely_Goatherd do you have any advice for OP?


Thanks.

Reply 24

Original post
by StriderHort
Don't be silly, I specifically made no call on whether your complaints have merit because I don't know, I merely told you a lawyers letter won't have the effect you thought it would and that as other users said, the term vexatious being used means they no longer take you seriously and is in no way my decision or problem.


I would appreciate if you don't go on personal attacks.

Reply 25

Don't waste your time and energy. There is not ethics nor expertise in the Cowboy's land. The universities have too much money to get the best layers and brush you under the carpet( proper sc** bags). Unless someone died in campus due to their negligence I wouldn't bother with it.
(edited 2 years ago)

Reply 26

Original post
by Anonymous
I would appreciate if you don't go on personal attacks.


I'm not sure you know what a personal attack is, it's ok for you to wrongly call me dismissive but not me to call your aggressive position silly? If this is how you are approaching your complaints it is no wonder they have labelled you vexatious. Best of luck anyway.

Reply 27

Original post
by Scotney
@The_Lonely_Goatherd do you have any advice for OP?


Having read the OP's many threads on this (and spoken to the OP a bit about my own experience of uni complaints, on a non-anonymous thread of theirs), my honest suggestion is that they should just let this matter go and just quit their studies, painful though that may be.

I understand that they feel hard done by and outraged by how they feel they've been treated, and I'm all for fighting the good fight where there's a chance of a good outcome/when it doesn't come at the expense of someone's health. Whilst none of us on TSR are privy to the details, it doesn't feel like the odds are in the OP's corner. I feel this is could be something of a lost cause, sadly, and it'd be a shame for the OP's health to be worsened due to the continued fighting... I also definitely wouldn't be paying junior lawyers that sum of money per hour for this! :nah:

I am loathe to comment further on this matter, given the OP's history of lashing out at others. That said, I wish the OP well and better health and luck going forward

Reply 28

Original post
by StriderHort
I'm not sure you know what a personal attack is, it's ok for you to wrongly call me dismissive but not me to call your aggressive position silly? If this is how you are approaching your complaints it is no wonder they have labelled you vexatious. Best of luck anyway.


What "aggressive" position?

Reply 29

Original post
by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Having read the OP's many threads on this (and spoken to the OP a bit about my own experience of uni complaints, on a non-anonymous thread of theirs), my honest suggestion is that they should just let this matter go and just quit their studies, painful though that may be.

I understand that they feel hard done by and outraged by how they feel they've been treated, and I'm all for fighting the good fight where there's a chance of a good outcome/when it doesn't come at the expense of someone's health. Whilst none of us on TSR are privy to the details, it doesn't feel like the odds are in the OP's corner. I feel this is could be something of a lost cause, sadly, and it'd be a shame for the OP's health to be worsened due to the continued fighting... I also definitely wouldn't be paying junior lawyers that sum of money per hour for this! :nah:

I am loathe to comment further on this matter, given the OP's history of lashing out at others. That said, I wish the OP well and better health and luck going forward


I don't understand what you mean. If there is any lashing out, it would only be a consequence of receiving harsh language.
Original post
by Anonymous
Unless I am able to disprove them

I wasn’t commenting on whether you can disprove them, merely that ”vexatious complainant” is not a term being thrown in without consideration by a large organisation dealing with a formal complaint.

Original post
by Anonymous
I don't understand what you mean. If there is any lashing out, it would only be a consequence of receiving harsh language.

People may have been blunt with respect to the action you want to take, but I don’t recall them using harsh language, especially not enough to accuse them of gaslighting or whatever was said in the previous threads.

As above, none of us have any knowledge about the merits of your complaint, we can only advise whether we think it’s worth pursuing.

Reply 31

Original post
by Admit-One
I wasn’t commenting on whether you can disprove them, merely that ”vexatious complainant” is not a term being thrown in without consideration by a large organisation dealing with a formal complaint.


People may have been blunt with respect to the action you want to take, but I don’t recall them using harsh language, especially not enough to accuse them of gaslighting or whatever was said in the previous threads.

As above, none of us have any knowledge about the merits of your complaint, we can only advise whether we think it’s worth pursuing.


I can communicate relevant details via private messages since it is too sensitive to type it up over here.
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by Anonymous
I can communicate relevant details via private messages since it is too sensitive to type it up over here.

I appreciate there may be aspects you are not disclosing publicly. I have PM’s disabled, (nothing to do with you), but would advise you to take The_Lonely_Goatherd‘a advice into consideration as they have relevant experience of a similar situation and have been very empathetic.

Reply 33

Original post
by Admit-One
I appreciate there may be aspects you are not disclosing publicly. I have PM’s disabled, (nothing to do with you), but would advise you to take The_Lonely_Goatherd‘a advice into consideration as they have relevant experience of a similar situation and have been very empathetic.


I can't afford to give up. It is years of time and money.

Reply 34

How's it going

Reply 35

Original post
by Onurhonca
How's it going


The SPSO caseworker said they were still waiting for the university to respond. It has been 14 days and the university still not responded to their info enquiry.

Reply 36

Original post
by Anonymous
What "aggressive" position?


The part where you started to get snippy and accuse me of attacks for telling you not to waste your money, not 1 person here inc several education professionals, thinks such a lawyers letter/approach would work. That's not being dismissive, it's the reality, we know that letter will do 0 and cost £200+.
Original post
by Anonymous
I can't afford to give up. It is years of time and money.


I think in that case you are falling for the sunk cost fallacy, where you have committeed a lot to an endeavour, so you must persist with it no matter the likliehood of a postive outcome.

Both myself and The_Lonely_Goatherd have alluded to the fact that legal action will take an extraordinary amount of time, money and mental energy. I appreciate there is a strong sense of not wanting them "to get away with it" or do the same to others, but you have to weigh up the likliehood of success versus what you've got left in the tank and what you could better be doing with that expenditure.
You'd be better off putting your efforts into passing your academic probation to try to finish your course or negotiate a reasonable early exit award.

Reply 39

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by PQ
You'd be better off putting your efforts into passing your academic probation to try to finish your course or negotiate a reasonable early exit award.


How do I know if they have simply continued to set me up to fail

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