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how could anyone be pro-israel?

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Reply 360

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by User_09
Do u rlly think conquering land is acceptable in today's world? back in the day it was normalized, even tho it was still wrong, but today??? if a country that was more powerful and wealthier than u decided to suddenly invade ur country and start a war, which they will obviously win and then force u out of ur home and kill thousands would that be ok??? in todays world that is so advanced and civilized, would it be ok to take someone else's land because u have more military support??? the palestinians do have a right to live there, just like u and me have a right to live in our own countries.

Israel did not invade Palestinian, Arab countries invade Israel and lost so your argument is irrelevant to your own claim.

Reply 361

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by Kathy89
Israel did not invade Palestinian, Arab countries invade Israel and lost so your argument is irrelevant to your own claim.

im talking about before israel existed

Reply 362

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by User_09
im talking about before israel existed

How is it relevant when Israel exists now.
Let's bring all Mexicans to USA and all white Americans to UK. Mexicans ancestors are Indians so USA land is theirs and most of the white Americans have British roots therefore has no right for the land of the indians

Reply 363

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by Kathy89
How is it relevant when Israel exists now.
Let's bring all Mexicans to USA and all white Americans to UK. Mexicans ancestors are Indians so USA land is theirs and most of the white Americans have British roots therefore has no right for the land of the indians

i was replying to @Djtoodles who said: "Neither has a “right” to exist, neither has a “right” to a state". Im simply arguaing that palestine does have a right to it. But of course now that Israel exists, they cant just be kicked out, thats not right, so my solution is that they live together. Altho if Israel dont accept, another alternative may be to split the land equally and create two seperate countries.

Reply 364

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by User_09
i was replying to @Djtoodles who said: "Neither has a “right” to exist, neither has a “right” to a state". Im simply arguaing that palestine does have a right to it. But of course now that Israel exists, they cant just be kicked out, thats not right, so my solution is that they live together. Altho if Israel dont accept, another alternative may be to split the land equally and create two seperate countries.

Neither does. Might makes right, that’s how states have always existed or how they cease to exist.

Its disingenuous to say this is all on Israel. Palestine don’t want to live side by side with Israel either its why they put Hamas in charge in Gaza at first opportunity. So, i say let them both get on with it and may the best army win.

Frankly your “solutions” are wildly unrealistic.

Reply 365

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by Djtoodles
Neither does. Might makes right, that’s how states have always existed or how they cease to exist.
Its disingenuous to say this is all on Israel. Palestine don’t want to live side by side with Israel either its why they put Hamas in charge in Gaza at first opportunity. So, i say let them both get on with it and may the best army win.
Frankly your “solutions” are wildly unrealistic.

so u suggest that they continue fighting and lives continue to be lost until one side is completely eradicated??

Reply 366

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by User_09
so u suggest that they continue fighting and lives continue to be lost until one side is completely eradicated??

If you want proper peace and by eradicate you mean occupied by Isreal, then yeap that’s pretty much the only way you get it .

I’m sure people in Gaza won’t mind being part of Israel again, standard of living would improve considerably. Ofc Israel is a democracy and you don’t want a huge influx of people who would immediately become the majority and vote in some anti-Jewish government party similar to Hamas, so voting rights would have to be restricted but then again, they didn’t have any in Gaza either so they won’t notice much difference.

Reply 367

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by Djtoodles
If you want proper peace and by eradicate you mean occupied by Isreal, then yeap that’s pretty much the only way you get it .
I’m sure people in Gaza won’t mind being part of Israel again, standard of living would improve considerably. Ofc Israel is a democracy and you don’t want a huge influx of people who would immediately become the majority and vote in some anti-Jewish government party similar to Hamas, so voting rights would have to be restricted but then again, they didn’t have any in Gaza either so they won’t notice much difference.

so they should live in a country where their rights are taken away and are discriminated or have to leave the country they were born and raised in. would u like it if that happened to u and ur family??

Reply 368

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by Djtoodles
If you want proper peace and by eradicate you mean occupied by Isreal, then yeap that’s pretty much the only way you get it .
I’m sure people in Gaza won’t mind being part of Israel again, standard of living would improve considerably. Ofc Israel is a democracy and you don’t want a huge influx of people who would immediately become the majority and vote in some anti-Jewish government party similar to Hamas, so voting rights would have to be restricted but then again, they didn’t have any in Gaza either so they won’t notice much difference.

I wish they'd understand that....

Reply 369

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by User_09
so they should live in a country where their rights are taken away and are discriminated or have to leave the country they were born and raised in. would u like it if that happened to u and ur family??

How exactly Palestinians who live in Israel are discriminated more than any other group of population?

Reply 370

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by User_09
so they should live in a country where their rights are taken away and are discriminated or have to leave the country they were born and raised in. would u like it if that happened to u and ur family??

If it meant living in a country where there was a far better quality of life - yes
If it meant living in a country where women were part of the governance running that country - yes
If it meant living in a country where woman were no longer expected to have 11 or 12 children as a norm - yes
If it meant living in a country where there was an excellent education for children to the highest level - yes
If it meant women were allowed to work in whatever field they chose to, and were not forced to stay at home in a marginalised child rearing role - then yes
If it meant living in a country where healthcare was available to all, and where women were safe to travel alone day or night - yes
If it meant that any elected governing party was elected fairly by all - yes
If it meant food was freely available for all in a family - yes
If it meant functional well built housing was available with amenities, shops and support services, then yes
If it meant having a good standard of living rather than living a medieval way of life - yes
If it meant getting rid of proxy terrorist groups determined to create violence & discontent within communities - yes
If it meant cutting ties with external third party countries determined to fund violent power struggles - yes
If it meant treating animals with deference and kindness, protecting their right to a life free of suffering - yes

Only time will tell.

Reply 371

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by User_09
so they should live in a country where their rights are taken away and are discriminated or have to leave the country they were born and raised in. would u like it if that happened to u and ur family??

In this hypothetical situation I’m assuming I live in a dump like Gaza under a tyrannical and oppressive regime like Hamas. In which case bring on the occupation and the substantial increase in freedoms and standard of living.

Reply 372

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by Anonymous
so i am not palestinian but i would define myself as pro-palestine. i feel as if i have educated myself widely enough to understand what is happening in gaza currently and what has been happening for years. i will not explain what is happening as that would stray away from why i made this discussion. the reason i made this discussion is because i've been seeing alot of celebrities or people with a wide platform staying silent to this issue or posting 'praying for israel' on their social media platforms. and i genuinely sat down on my desk and thought... 'am i missing something here?' how could someone be pro-israel, i'd like an explanation. i understand this issue has been happening for years, way before i was born, but people are using the hamas as an excuse to victimise israel. what did people expect? palestine was just going sit back, relax and allow their people to be killed and ethnically cleansed? anyways, could someone explain to me why anyone would be pro-israel?

Religion (mostly Christianity) is largely responsible for pro-Israeli sentiments.

Reply 373

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by Vivify
Religion (mostly Christianity) is largely responsible for pro-Israeli sentiments.

I am not religious; in fact, I’d say I am very anti religion but I am very much "pro-Israel" in the context of what goes on in that particular part of the world. I am pro-Israel because I’m not into self-harm.

Reply 374

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by Djtoodles
I am not religious; in fact, I’d say I am very anti religion but I am very much "pro-Israel" in the context of what goes on in that particular part of the world. I am pro-Israel because I’m not into self-harm.

could you please elaborate when you say self harm? who is doing self-harm?
(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 375

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by User_09
could you please elaborate when you say self harm? who is doing self-harm?


I assume that they mean Palestine

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