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How much alcohol is it okay to drink in a day?

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Original post by Admit-One
That's why I clearly noted that I was playing devil's advocate. You didn't answer my question though.

No, but the thing being preferred does. Remember, you started a thread because you doubted whether your behaviour was normal or healthy. If you were completely comfortable with it, the thread wouldn't have been necessary.

If they ate cookies 4 times a day and were thinking of the health implications of doing it for 10 years, yes, absolutely I would.


Being concerned about the health implications of something doesn’t mean I’m addicted to it though, I could and probably will reduce my drinking at some point in the future to avoid the health concerns
Original post by Anonymous
I have about 3 or 4 drinks a day (probably about 30 units across a week) which I don't think is that many but apparently the recommended maximum is 14 units a week. There's no risk to my health from drinking the extent I do is there?

I'm 20, female, and a uni student so surely I'm only drinking the same amount as an average person my age, it's just that I drink alone across the week instead of going out and getting drunk/having all my weekly alcohol in one go on a Saturday night. I will usually have about half a bottle of wine or a few gin/vodka and tonics in the evening before I go to bed but I never really go out clubbing or get properly drunk.

Well like everything it’s about accepting the health risks alcohol poses. Id say if you are using it manage any mental health issues then it isn’t recreational and you are just repressing other problems. Whixh is obviously not healthy.

That amount of alcohol is not insignificant and could affect your both short & long term health although it’s far from uncommon. In my experience it is certainly normal for students to binge drink 2-3 times per week but drinking 7 days a week is actually pretty uncommon.
Original post by Anonymous
Being concerned about the health implications of something doesn’t mean I’m addicted to it though, I could and probably will reduce my drinking at some point in the future to avoid the health concerns

Quite a lot of qualifiers there.

Given that nearly everyone in this thread has expressed some concern about what you've said, I hope you'll take that on board even thought it wasn't what you were hoping to hear.

Original post by mnot
That amount of alcohol is not insignificant and could affect your both short & long term health although it’s far from uncommon. In my experience it is certainly normal for students to binge drink 2-3 times per week but drinking 7 days a week is actually pretty uncommon.


Indeed. When I was at uni I only went properly 'out' to drink once a week. Beyond than that I couldn't afford more than a couple of weektime jars at the pub. 3-5 bottles of wine a week would have been my entire budget!
Original post by Admit-One
Quite a lot of qualifiers there.

Given that nearly everyone in this thread has expressed some concern about what you've said, I hope you'll take that on board even thought it wasn't what you were hoping to hear.

At this point it would probably be worse for my health to give up or reduce drinking because it helps me manage anxiety/panic attacks and the general stress of uni and it gives me a reward for getting through each day.

I do accept that it’s not sustainable super long term though and will probably reduce my drinking after uni
OP your drinking may pose a problem

try this AUDIT self assessment tool

https://auditscreen.org/check-your-drinking/
Original post by Anonymous
At this point it would probably be worse for my health to give up or reduce drinking because it helps me manage anxiety/panic attacks and the general stress of uni and it gives me a reward for getting through each day.

I do accept that it’s not sustainable super long term though and will probably reduce my drinking after uni


you have a clear problem and are failing to self medicate your anxiety

please speak to your GP
Original post by Miss Pulford
you have a clear problem and are failing to self medicate your anxiety

please speak to your GP

I don’t think my anxiety is bad enough that a doctor would do anything, especially as I don’t have any serious trauma or anything
Original post by Miss Pulford
OP your drinking may pose a problem

try this AUDIT self assessment tool

https://auditscreen.org/check-your-drinking/


I got 12 and medium score so that means it could be way worse
Original post by Anonymous
I don’t think my anxiety is bad enough that a doctor would do anything, especially as I don’t have any serious trauma or anything

You anxiety is severe enough for you to be self-medicating with large quantities of alcohol every day...
Original post by Anonymous
At this point it would probably be worse for my health to give up or reduce drinking because it helps me manage anxiety/panic attacks and the general stress of uni and it gives me a reward for getting through each day.

I do accept that it’s not sustainable super long term though and will probably reduce my drinking after uni

But now we're moving the goalposts from "I hope people reassure me that this is safe/normal" to "well, regardless if there is a consensus in the replies, it wouldn't be safe for me to change my behaviour at the moment anyway".

NB. Why after uni? You're described drinking alone at home, what's going to change about your anxiety post-graduation? As someone that got through uni fine, but suffered anxiety and panic attacks at work, I certainly found the work envornment a lot more stressful!

Original post by black tea
You anxiety is severe enough for you to be self-medicating with large quantities of alcohol every day...


Exactly, it cant be simultaneously be so bad that it requires multiple drinks a day whilst alone, but so mild that a GP wouldn't want to take any action.
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Original post by Anonymous
I don’t think my anxiety is bad enough that a doctor would do anything, especially as I don’t have any serious trauma or anything

If the doctor knew that you were drinking to manage your anxiety they most likely would do something. Drinking half a bottle a night on your own IS the sign of a problem!
Don’t do it tonight and see how many times you think about going to get just one glass. I think you’ll change your mind as to whether or not it’s a problem.
Original post by black tea
You anxiety is severe enough for you to be self-medicating with large quantities of alcohol every day...


I would feel silly going to a doctor and saying that I have anxiety and panic attacks even though I haven't been through trauma and have quite a privileged life
Original post by Admit-One
But now we're moving the goalposts from "I hope people reassure me that this is safe/normal" to "well, regardless if there is a consensus in the replies, it wouldn't be safe for me to change my behaviour at the moment anyway".

NB. Why after uni? You're described drinking alone at home, what's going to change about your anxiety post-graduation? As someone that got through uni fine, but suffered anxiety and panic attacks at work, I certainly found the work envornment a lot more stressful!



Exactly, it cant be simultaneously be so bad that it requires multiple drinks a day whilst alone, but so mild that a GP wouldn't want to take any action.

If I still feel like drinking would be most beneficial to me after uni then I'll keep doing it for a few years and see how I feel after that
Reply 33
Original post by Anonymous
I would feel silly going to a doctor and saying that I have anxiety and panic attacks even though I haven't been through trauma and have quite a privileged life

Anxiety doesn’t have to be linked to « trauma »
At uni it’s quite common to worry about managing the work load, getting the results that you think people expect you to, managing finances, finding accommodation and many other things. No doctor will judge a person because they have a privileged life.
Sometimes it is difficult to tell if someone is being obtuse or trolling. I'll bow out now but for anyone else in a similar position:

Drink Aware - An independent charity which aims to reduce alcohol-related harm by helping people make better choices about their drinking. Impartial, evidence-based information, advice and practical resources.

Mind - Guidance page on recreational drugs, alcohol and addiction incuding useful contacts

NHS - Alcohol Support
Reply 35
Original post by Admit-One
Sometimes it is difficult to tell if someone is being obtuse or trolling. I'll bow out now but for anyone else in a similar position:

Drink Aware - An independent charity which aims to reduce alcohol-related harm by helping people make better choices about their drinking. Impartial, evidence-based information, advice and practical resources.

Mind - Guidance page on recreational drugs, alcohol and addiction incuding useful contacts

NHS - Alcohol Support

PRSOM
Original post by Admit-One
Sometimes it is difficult to tell if someone is being obtuse or trolling. I'll bow out now but for anyone else in a similar position:

Drink Aware - An independent charity which aims to reduce alcohol-related harm by helping people make better choices about their drinking. Impartial, evidence-based information, advice and practical resources.

Mind - Guidance page on recreational drugs, alcohol and addiction incuding useful contacts

NHS - Alcohol Support


Not trolling or being obtuse, obviously I know it’s bad for my health but I can’t face taking away the one thing I look forward to at the minute, which is why I said I’ll think about quitting in a few years.
Thanks for the replies though 🤷🏻*♀️🤷🏻*♀️
Take it from a person who is basically you ten years from now - don't do it. A couple of drinks a night seems harmless, especially when you're not drinking to the point of getting drunk, but it is causing damage. It harms your liver and it alters your brain chemistry. Drinking daily is how you develop a habit and then from there it becomes an addiction. And you won't even notice it happen. I didn't know I had developed a dependence on alcohol until I tried to stop. And withdrawal when quitting is extremely hard - I would not recommend that you risk putting yourself in a position where you might ever have to go through it.

Alcohol makes anxiety worse in the long-run, so don't use it as a coping mechanism for this. See your GP or a counsellor regarding healthier ways to manage your anxiety.

Drink responsibility. If you're going to drink alone then make it an occasional or weekend treat rather than something you do every single night. If you're interested I have decent recommendations for non-alcoholic beers, wines, and mocktails.
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Original post by Genesiss
wow. it doesn't screw up your sleep? i found if i have 1-2 "units" a night i wake up in the middle of the night hot as a furnace.


tbh that's 'a drink' so your reaction sounds a bit extreme and near death :ashamed2:
Original post by Anonymous
Not trolling or being obtuse, obviously I know it’s bad for my health but I can’t face taking away the one thing I look forward to at the minute, which is why I said I’ll think about quitting in a few years.
Thanks for the replies though 🤷🏻*♀️🤷🏻*♀️


There have been quite a few red flags in terms of your alcohol use and the reasons behind it so far in this thread, and it being literally the one thing you look forward to is another big red flag. Every time you post your anxiety is looking more like something that you need to seek professional help for. Alcohol is not medication, nor is it a viable coping strategy for anxiety or anything else.

I must admit that I started to think you might be trolling when we reached the point of the thread where your position shifted to “I’ll stop after Uni, or actually I might carry on for a few more years”, but it doesn’t matter. If this is genuine, hopefully you can reflect on some of the well meaning advice in this thread. If you are trolling, the advice will hopefully be useful for someone who comes across this thread in future in a similar situation.

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