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Original post by Admit-One

I've never cheated on anything academic. Certainly not at uni.

I've not taken any offense. I tend to respond to posters in manner they address me. I'm not employed by the site and follow the same posting guidelines
as everyone else. I don't think there's anything in the community rules about being kind, but all my posts above were constructive and directly addressing what the OP was saying. I'm not hear to coddle them if they don't understand what plagiarism is.


Love the fact you never cheated in uni, OP is not in uni, though, and im sure would understand how grave of a situation it is to cheat and hand in a plagiarised piece of work in uni.

Idk how to quote stuff, but OP does mention only using it as an example template afterwards to NickH77, so perhaps they forwarded their question incorrectly in the actual post and meant to write they wanted to use it as inspo (as that is what 'example template' suggests) and whether that would count as plagiarism (which it wouldnt as taking inspiration from something is definitely not plagiarism).

Also, after you mentioned how 'rewording is still plagiarism', OP asked (in a way which i don't believe to be rude/passive aggressive but rather in a frustrated tone) what you would do if you were stuck in their situation. To me, it does not seem as if OP was asking whether you would also cheat, but rather, what would you do - maybe they wanted to know to take that advice themself?
You, however, answered in a condescending way imo, i dont see how OP deserved that behaviour? Obviously afterwards their replies to you and others wasn't the best.

I was not aware that forum helpers were not recruited by TSR, so thank you for letting me know, I will ensure to keep that in my mind next time.
I'm not trying to create a fight. I hope you understand. I just wanted to shed some light as to what OP probably actually meant (and i dont think she did it in a ridiculous way and totally hid her actual intention).
Reply 21
Original post by limbobimbo
As a year 12, i get your position so if it was absolutely necessary and counted towards your grade I'd do it, i'd probably put it on spinbot, get chatgpt to help me submit it.

But considering the fact you're in yr 12, is it rly worth it? Better to do it urself, get a bad grade and take is as a lesson to do your work beforehand so any questions can be answered at least 4 days b4 the assignment is due yk?
Me personally, id use my friend's work from last year as an inspiration for what I could come up with yk? Changing the words wont make it NOT plagiarism, still plagiarism since they ideas and concepts are the same ygm? I'd maybe use one or two ideas but in general use it as inspo!

Talking ab chatgpt, its a great place for advice! Could've asked it to help you plan out your essay? It's technically not cheating since you still need to come up with your own words but it'd give you enough help to not be stuck yk?
Next time (assuming you have already turned in your friends assignment) just do it urself, i used to turn in my friends assignment in year 11 and it never helps ngl.

Though ngl the ppl who replied under your post r kinda pretentious, acting like they never cheated (which I bet they did
T-T). Some people are just so rude to people, idk why they're so offended by your questions. I mean educate them instead of acting so up-right and stuck up (Admit-One im looking at you, i get what OP said is very dumb but they genuinely wanted to weigh out the pros and cons, not be attacked by you and your stuck up comments) :smile:

Thank you for understanding me honestly made me feel so better. I just need some advice and guidance and all I was getting was hate.Most of the things they were saying was very unrealistic.
But I did use my friends work for inspiration and changed it and only got 8% of plagiarism and I got a Distinction too! I have learned not to leave work last minute and always ask for support when needed.
Thank you for your kindness!
Reply 22
Original post by Admit-One
I'd love to know which of my 4 posts you thought was stuck up. Or was attacking the OP.

You were very rude! you have kept professional and said in a more nicer way it was very unnecessary for all that “Mr Perfect”, I hope you don’t reply to any comments with this much rudeness.Oh and I got 8% plagiarism and a Distinction.🥰
Original post by Andoa.xo
You were very rude! you have kept professional and said in a more nicer way it was very unnecessary for all that “Mr Perfect”, I hope you don’t reply to any comments with this much rudeness.Oh and I got 8% plagiarism and a Distinction.🥰

I'm still concerned that you used a friends work "for inspiration and changed it" and seem to think an 8% similiarity match is a great win. People criticising you for this behaviour is not "hate".

Please use the report flag for any posts that you believe to be rude and non-constructive.

Original post by limbobimbo
Love the fact you never cheated in uni, OP is not in uni, though, and im sure would understand how grave of a situation it is to cheat and hand in a plagiarised piece of work in uni.

Idk how to quote stuff, but OP does mention only using it as an example template afterwards to NickH77, so perhaps they forwarded their question incorrectly in the actual post and meant to write they wanted to use it as inspo (as that is what 'example template' suggests) and whether that would count as plagiarism (which it wouldnt as taking inspiration from something is definitely not plagiarism).

Also, after you mentioned how 'rewording is still plagiarism', OP asked (in a way which i don't believe to be rude/passive aggressive but rather in a frustrated tone) what you would do if you were stuck in their situation. To me, it does not seem as if OP was asking whether you would also cheat, but rather, what would you do - maybe they wanted to know to take that advice themself?
You, however, answered in a condescending way imo, i dont see how OP deserved that behaviour? Obviously afterwards their replies to you and others wasn't the best.

I was not aware that forum helpers were not recruited by TSR, so thank you for letting me know, I will ensure to keep that in my mind next time.
I'm not trying to create a fight. I hope you understand. I just wanted to shed some light as to what OP probably actually meant (and i dont think she did it in a ridiculous way and totally hid her actual intention).

I appreciate that your replies have come with good intentions. I would just bear in mind that the OP was planning to plaguarise, started a thread asking whether they'd get away with it, and has now returned to confirm that yes, they submitted plagiarised work.
Original post by Andoa.xo
Original post by limbobimbo
As a year 12, i get your position so if it was absolutely necessary and counted towards your grade I'd do it, i'd probably put it on spinbot, get chatgpt to help me submit it.

But considering the fact you're in yr 12, is it rly worth it? Better to do it urself, get a bad grade and take is as a lesson to do your work beforehand so any questions can be answered at least 4 days b4 the assignment is due yk?
Me personally, id use my friend's work from last year as an inspiration for what I could come up with yk? Changing the words wont make it NOT plagiarism, still plagiarism since they ideas and concepts are the same ygm? I'd maybe use one or two ideas but in general use it as inspo!

Talking ab chatgpt, its a great place for advice! Could've asked it to help you plan out your essay? It's technically not cheating since you still need to come up with your own words but it'd give you enough help to not be stuck yk?
Next time (assuming you have already turned in your friends assignment) just do it urself, i used to turn in my friends assignment in year 11 and it never helps ngl.

Though ngl the ppl who replied under your post r kinda pretentious, acting like they never cheated (which I bet they did
T-T). Some people are just so rude to people, idk why they're so offended by your questions. I mean educate them instead of acting so up-right and stuck up (Admit-One im looking at you, i get what OP said is very dumb but they genuinely wanted to weigh out the pros and cons, not be attacked by you and your stuck up comments) :smile:

Thank you for understanding me honestly made me feel so better. I just need some advice and guidance and all I was getting was hate.Most of the things they were saying was very unrealistic.
But I did use my friends work for inspiration and changed it and only got 8% of plagiarism and I got a Distinction too! I have learned not to leave work last minute and always ask for support when needed.
Thank you for your kindness!


I'm glad to see you got a distinction!

Ignore these Mr Perfects under the posts. Everyone's been in your situation once!
Also, im glad u used your friends' work as inspo rather than copying it off 😭
Original post by Admit-One

I appreciate that your replies have come with good intentions. I would just bear in mind that the OP was planning to plaguarise, started a thread asking whether they'd get away with it, and has now returned to confirm that yes, they submitted plagiarised work.


They used it as inspiration and only got 8% plagiarism (which is still bad, next time OP should strive to make it 0% plagiaris).
However, if OPs teacher is okay with it and rewarded her with a distinction, i fail to see how it has become your problem?

I understand her initial intention may have come off as bad to you, but she did then later on mention she only used it as a template inspiration.
She should be happy she got a distinction as most of her turned in work is her own hard work.
Original post by limbobimbo
They used it as inspiration and only got 8% plagiarism (which is still bad, next time OP should strive to make it 0% plagiaris).
However, if OPs teacher is okay with it and rewarded her with a distinction, i fail to see how it has become your problem?

I understand her initial intention may have come off as bad to you, but she did then later on mention she only used it as a template inspiration.
She should be happy she got a distinction as most of her turned in work is her own hard work.


It’s not my problem. The OP asked a question weeks ago and several of us answered. I’m only back here because you bumped the thread after 3 weeks of inactivity and started sub-quoting me.

It’s a textbook case of plagiarism and we shouldn’t handwave it away by saying they “took inspiration”. They reworded it. That’s their exact explanation above.

If your and their position is that they got away with it so no harm, no foul then there’s not much else anyone can say in the matter. Again, as per one of my comments above then the thread is somewhat irrelevant.

I’m also not sure sure where these “Mr Perfect” comments are coming from. Asking someone not to plagiarise is such a pathetically low bar to meet.
Original post by Admit-One


It’s not my problem. The OP asked a question weeks ago and several of us answered. I’m only back here because you bumped the thread after 3 weeks of inactivity and started sub-quoting me.

It’s a textbook case of plagiarism and we shouldn’t handwave it away by saying they “took inspiration”. They reworded it. That’s their exact explanation above.

If your and their position is that they got away with it so no harm, no foul then there’s not much else anyone can say in the matter. Again, as per one of my comments above then the thread is somewhat irrelevant.

I’m also not sure sure where these “Mr Perfect” comments are coming from. Asking someone not to plagiarise is such a pathetically low bar to meet.


Asking someone to not plagiarise is perfectly understandable, acting like you're amazing, and you have never made a mistake/used a friend to help you out in your academic life is not okay, though.

Your tone for every reply to OP was very condescending. Don't look down on people so much, yk?

Also, I fail to see how u can not understand that OP did not copy her friend's work? She clearly emphasised she used it as an inspo template and changed it, to you does that sound like she changed the words, or does it rather (and logically speaking) sound like she changed everything and wrote it her own way, only using the structure to help her?
It sounds like the latter to me.
Your judgement from OP's initial post is clouding any information OP has given about what she actually did.

It's not a textbook case of plagiarism, in 6th form (which im sure you have attended), using a template/previous work as help for your own essay is encouraged (and it was encouraged during GCSEs too where im sure during your english lessons you used the pre-written sentences given to you by your teacher).
OP did not just change every word of the essay. She re-wrote everything. Only using her friend's template as inspiration.

I understand you have come back as I replied to you, so my apologies.
Original post by Andoa.xo
I was juts wondering if I uses my friends work from last year and make it in my own words will it come up on turn it ?

Original post by Andoa.xo
I hope not , I was using it as an example template

Original post by Andoa.xo
So tell me what you’ll do if your stuck on a very big essay with no help and it’s due in 2 days ?

To answer your questions:
1. Depends how well you make it your own words. If you change it to the point where it is no longer in any way recognisably the other person's then congratulations: you've just written your own essay. If you don't, it's plagiarism and will be flagged. EDIT: to expand, this includes whether you are making similar points to the other person, the same arguments or logic as another person, the same references as another person. The software is quite clever on this which is why the best advice is not to rewrite other people's work. If you read someone else's work to get a flavour of a good structure and tone to use, that's sensible. Using any of the actual content is not sensible and I advise against.

2. If you look at the university's academic misconduct guidelines, you will probably find something about using friend's work.

3. When stuck on a very big essay, due in two days, I did what every other average student did and go and sit in the library until it is done - with or without sleep. You don't get a particularly high grade, you shrug it off and move on. Not your finest moment, but nothing that resembles cheating.
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