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My friend got rejected pre-interview from Clare college (cambridge) with all 9s and what he thought was a good bmat score - for those who did get interviews this year, what was your bmat score? Were you contextual/non-contextual, international/home, go to a private/state school?

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Original post by alttest124
My friend got rejected pre-interview from Clare college (cambridge) with all 9s and what he thought was a good bmat score - for those who did get interviews this year, what was your bmat score? Were you contextual/non-contextual, international/home, go to a private/state school?

How many GCSEs and what was his bmat score? Happy to share mine if he shares first (seeings as he's asking the question) :-)
Reply 3
Original post by SilverPebble
How many GCSEs and what was his bmat score? Happy to share mine if he shares first (seeings as he's asking the question) :-)

he has eleven 9s, i'll ask him his bmat score
Reply 4
Original post by alttest124
My friend got rejected pre-interview from Clare college (cambridge) with all 9s and what he thought was a good bmat score - for those who did get interviews this year, what was your bmat score? Were you contextual/non-contextual, international/home, go to a private/state school?

GCSEs are not considered for short-listing, academics involve A levels, needing minimum 2A*A in Chemistry and one of Biology, Mathematics and Physics
Reply 5
Original post by GANFYD
GCSEs are not considered for short-listing, academics involve A levels, needing minimum 2A*A in Chemistry and one of Biology, Mathematics and Physics

he does bio chem maths, 3a* predicted in all. his bmat score was 6, 6.1 3A
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Original post by SilverPebble
How many GCSEs and what was his bmat score? Happy to share mine if he shares first (seeings as he's asking the question) :-)

6, 6.1, 3A
Reply 7
Original post by alttest124
he does bio chem maths, 3a* predicted in all. his bmat score was 6, 6.1 3A

Then he has red flags in his application or they have made an error
Reply 8
Original post by GANFYD
Then he has red flags in his application or they have made an error

what sort of things do you mean by red flags? his personal statement & reference were quite strong, and he has 3 other interviews from other unversities already. if there was an error, how would you advise going about contacting cambridge to ask about or solve that?
(edited 2 months ago)
Original post by GANFYD
Then he has red flags in his application or they have made an error

@GANFYD do you think a rejection for predicted 4 A* (maths, biology, chemistry, physics) and 5.7, 5.9, 3A in bmat could also be an error?
Reply 10
Original post by alttest124
6, 6.1, 3A

Sounds pretty unlucky not to get an interview. His GCSEs were obviously fine, as were his A Level predictions.

I can only assume that it was a competitive field in terms of BMAT scores, and his score wasn't quite high enough? I am just speculating though.

He should email and ask for feedback.
Reply 11
Original post by alttest124
what sort of things do you mean by red flags? his personal statement & reference were quite strong, and he has 3 other interviews from other unversities already. if there was an error, how would you advise going about contacting cambridge to ask about or solve that?

Maybe Cambridge have changed how they shortlist people, but they have historically interviewed most people with a realistic chance of achieving 2A*A at A level and then used all elements of an application to make decisions about offers, but maybe they now apply a BMAT cut off.
I would contact the college and ask for clarification for the reason for the rejection.
Reply 12
Original post by SilverPebble
@GANFYD do you think a rejection for predicted 4 A* (maths, biology, chemistry, physics) and 5.7, 5.9, 3A in bmat could also be an error?

See my response above
Reply 13
Original post by SilverPebble
@GANFYD do you think a rejection for predicted 4 A* (maths, biology, chemistry, physics) and 5.7, 5.9, 3A in bmat could also be an error?

were you rejected with those?
Reply 14
Original post by GANFYD
Maybe Cambridge have changed how they shortlist people, but they have historically interviewed most people with a realistic chance of achieving 2A*A at A level and then used all elements of an application to make decisions about offers, but maybe they now apply a BMAT cut off.
I would contact the college and ask for clarification for the reason for the rejection.

There have been cases before when some colleges have filtered by BMAT pre interview, although I don't know if it's happened recently.

Also eg see Trinity's website which says something like they don't typically interview candidates who do not perform well on bmat especially section2.
(edited 2 months ago)
Reply 15
Original post by AF2Dr
There have been cases before when some colleges have filtered by BMAT pre interview, although I don't know if it's happened recently.

Also eg see Trinity's website which says something like they don't typically interview candidates who do not perform well on bmat especially section2.

6.1 is a reasonable score, I would have thought?
Past average BMAT's interviewed at Clare have been in the region of 10.4 - 12 and the person mentioned in the OP had 12.1, with higher average scores for offer holders, seemingly confiirming the use of BMAT post interview.
And for 2022 entry at Cambridge, lots and lots of people with lower BMATs interviewed
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/data_for_a100_medicine_2022_entr_2#incoming-2161903
And offer in this sort of region
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/admission_statistics_a100_3#incoming-2465095
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/880399/response/2099665/attach/3/FOI%202022%20530%20Waheed%20data.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/medicine_a100_2036#incoming-2223783

But as I say, they may have changed it this year
Reply 16
Original post by GANFYD
6.1 is a reasonable score, I would have thought?
Past average BMAT's interviewed at Clare have been in the region of 10.4 - 12 and the person mentioned in the OP had 12.1, with higher average scores for offer holders, seemingly confiirming the use of BMAT post interview.
And for 2022 entry at Cambridge, lots and lots of people with lower BMATs interviewed
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/data_for_a100_medicine_2022_entr_2#incoming-2161903
And offer in this sort of region
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/admission_statistics_a100_3#incoming-2465095
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/880399/response/2099665/attach/3/FOI%202022%20530%20Waheed%20data.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/medicine_a100_2036#incoming-2223783

But as I say, they may have changed it this year

Yeah 6.1 is reasonable. BMAT is used post interview. As far as I'm aware, it can also be used pre interview. If BMAT is the reason this person didn't get an interview, then I do think they've been pretty unlucky (especially when I'm sure other colleges will interview people with lower scores).
Reply 17
Original post by GANFYD
6.1 is a reasonable score, I would have thought?
Past average BMAT's interviewed at Clare have been in the region of 10.4 - 12 and the person mentioned in the OP had 12.1, with higher average scores for offer holders, seemingly confiirming the use of BMAT post interview.
And for 2022 entry at Cambridge, lots and lots of people with lower BMATs interviewed
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/data_for_a100_medicine_2022_entr_2#incoming-2161903
And offer in this sort of region
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/admission_statistics_a100_3#incoming-2465095
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/880399/response/2099665/attach/3/FOI%202022%20530%20Waheed%20data.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/medicine_a100_2036#incoming-2223783

But as I say, they may have changed it this year

someone else on tsr (on the cambridge megathread) mentioned getting an interview with 5, 5.9, 3A - they did say they were non contextual as well. presuming bmat scores have been used, surely 12.1 and 3A would be enough?
Reply 18
Original post by alttest124
someone else on tsr (on the cambridge megathread) mentioned getting an interview with 5, 5.9, 3A - they did say they were non contextual as well. presuming bmat scores have been used, surely 12.1 and 3A would be enough?

Was that at the same college or a different one? I'm not sure about the last few years, but certainly I know that previously, different colleges can use the bmat differently pre-interview.

The bmat score of 6.0, 6.1, 3A is quite good though. So definitely worth emailing the admissions office to request feedback on why you/your friend weren't shortlisted. Best to do this ASAP just on the very rare offchance there was an error.
Reply 19
Original post by AF2Dr
Was that at the same college or a different one? I'm not sure about the last few years, but certainly I know that previously, different colleges can use the bmat differently pre-interview.

The bmat score of 6.0, 6.1, 3A is quite good though. So definitely worth emailing the admissions office to request feedback on why you/your friend weren't shortlisted. Best to do this ASAP just on the very rare offchance there was an error.

Same college, non-contextual & home as well - yeah I thought it was a solid score as well tbh - I’ll tell him to send the email today.

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