Puberty blockers for under-18s banned indefinitely across the UK

I… never said that. I am confused now. Where did I said that anorexic or depressed people are stopped by the doctors

haha, i'm also confused. but in one of your posts you suggested that depressed and anorexic people shouldn't really be allowed to decide for themselves?

Do you think that should apply to all medical decisions (e.g. any treatment someone could possible take) or just serious medical decisions (e.g. surgery)? To use an example I asked another user, do you think a 16 year old is too young to give informed consent to take paracetamol?
If someone shows they have the maturity, intelligence and capacity to give informed consent then why shouldn't they be given the freedom to persue life altering surgery? To me, provided someone can give informed consent to treatment then it doesn't matter if they are 16 or 65; they should be given autonomy over their lives, regardless of whether they have later regrets.
You also haven't told me why you think being transgender is a mental disorder.

This is my opinion but wouldn't that set a slippery slope?
Like where do we draw the line, there are already many detransitioners who recount believing that transitioning at a young age for the right answer for them just to deeply regret it after they matured.
Also no, children and young people should be allowed to mutilate their bodies, their prefrontal cortex is not even fully matured yet.
Under-18s cannot vote, drink alcohol, drive, get a tattoo, why should they be allowed to change their bodies permanently?

You have failed to identify why "being transgender" is not a mental disorder, and appear unable to offer any meaningful definition of "being transgender" . You even suggest ths " being transgender" is not the same as suffering from gender dysphoria, a novel position.
You are the one with the bizarre beliefs. It is for you to provide evidence to support those beliefs. You are in this context analogous to the a flat Earther. Those who know the Earth to be round don't have to disprove the contention that the Earth is flat.

I wouldn't consider it to be a slippery slope, no. The ability for under 16s to give consent to medical treatment (if they have the maturity and intelligence) has existed in the UK for 40 years without issue.
Provided someone can and does give informed consent to the treatment I do not see why regret, later in life, should matter. We wouldn't (nor shouldn't) stop an adult from pursuing a treatment just because they may regret it later in life, so I see no reason why the same wouldn't apply to someone 16 or under (if they can give informed consent).
I'd reiterate that medical treatment for gender dysphoria, for young people, in practice would (and should) be reserved for those suffering from it the strongest.

It's alright, it's only a personal preference of mine to use the term "illness" over "disorder". 🙂
The difference between anorexia and gender dysphoria is that 'encouraging' anorexic would lead to severe physical problems for the individual (e.g. malnutrition, fatique and weakness, organ problems and potentially death). The same doesn't apply for gender dysphoria.
For example, social transitioning (e.g. changing your name and pronouns) may be sufficient to help someone with gender dysphoria. This would resolve the illness without detriment to one's health otherwise. Other treatments, such as medical transitioning (e.g hormones or surgery) could do the same; these may not be without side effects, but they would not pose a risk to the person's life like anorexia would do.

It's simple: children, teens and young adult (under ~25) don't have a fully developed brain yet.
I honestly find it interesting how you believe the ability of an adult to make a choice is the same as for a child

No, as I clarified later on, when we see someone indulging in self destructive behaviour technically we are seeing people making their own decisions. If I have a friend who is anorexic, I wouldn't affirm them by telling them "you don't like your body and you are starving yourself in the pursuit of getting the body you want. You should be able to do that without anyone telling you otherwise!"
And of course it will all come down to what they decide to do, I cannot decide for them, it's their life, but that doesn't mean I need to stay silent while their are clearly struggling, and the answer is not cheering them on while they harm their bodies, while their are not in a clear state of mind. As a friends I should do all I can to help them get trough those hard times, listen to their struggles and help guide them to a better path for themselves.
Sometimes affirming everyone's feelings no matter what is not the answer

If you are just going to rant at me and insult me then I'm not going to bother giving detailed responses to your questions. 🤷*♀️
You can tell from the rest of this thread that I'm happy to give people the time and patience if they're willing to be respectful, even if I disagree with them. I'd be happy to engage in these points with you if you did the same.

oh i see. yeah but my point still stands, doctors or the authorities don't actively encourage you but they don't actively really discourage you from self harming behaviours either?

So? Should we just ignore people who hurt their bodies because of mental illness because they are going to hurt themselves regardless? You can't deny that having a doctor or authorities discourage such behaviour can help reduce the amount of people that turn to self harm

yeah but they don't and you can't change that. that's autonomy. soon we will have the right to euthanise ourselves too.

yeah but they don't and you can't change that. that's autonomy. soon we will have the right to euthanise ourselves too.

Naomi Cunningham accurate as always -
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/naomi-cunningham-3332a716_i-went-to-bed-every-night-wishing-i-woke-activity-7274799257155469312-LD9y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

It's simple: children, teens and young adult (under ~25) don't have a fully developed brain yet.
I honestly find it interesting how you believe the ability of an adult to make a choice is the same as for a child

So following your logic, I should be able to Rob a store and face no consequences. Afterall it’s my autonomy

Meanwhile, in the world of adult Mickey taking, a millionaire Scottish laird who calls himself Lady Kane is suing the NHS for refusing him a third "sex change".
He went from man to "woman" , then went back to man. Then he wanted to be a "woman" again. The NHS refused to operate. So he got the op done in Serbia , says the op was botched, and now says that the NHS breached his human rights. I hope that a Judge will summarily dismisses this spurious claim, with indemnity costs.