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by yoyomamacita207omg same!! im an international student tho
It's nice to know there are others in the same position as me! I'm considering the politics, philosophy and law LLB course more now than their standard course, as I find the philosophy modules quite interesting. It's also got a 30% offer rate in comparison to their standalone law LLB (15% offer rate). It's four years instead of three but I really like how the modules are spread over the four years. What are your stats and do you know which other universities you might apply to? How is your LNAT practice going (if you've started)?
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by bibachuI'm currently a Year 12 student studying philosophy, psychology and politics and am thinking of applying to KCL for Law (LLB) in 2025. I've looked over the course thoroughly and I really like the look of it, even though it was hard to find the modules in depth! I'd love to know from any current students, past students or offer holders how they feel about KCL Law School and how it compares to other schools they were thinking of applying to. I'm from London so being in the city isn't something that intimidates me, nor does being surrounded by international students, as my college is quite diverse with a lot of international students already and I've made friends quite easily! Even if you didn't apply to KCL Law and maybe attended open days, it would be quite nice to know how you found them since I'll be attending their one in June.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
I’m in the same position! I’m in year 12 doing Business, English lang, and Psychology. I’m an international student and I want to apply to kings for 2025. I’d love to do law (M100). My A level predicted grades are A*AA but my gcses are 876555 due to external circumstances like moving country. I got a tutor for the LNAT as I know Russel Groups care about it. I don’t know what other RG unis to apply to though because my GCSEs aren’t great and a lot of them have requirements for it.
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by MinabrnI’m in the same position! I’m in year 12 doing Business, English lang, and Psychology. I’m an international student and I want to apply to kings for 2025. I’d love to do law (M100). My A level predicted grades are A*AA but my gcses are 876555 due to external circumstances like moving country. I got a tutor for the LNAT as I know Russel Groups care about it. I don’t know what other RG unis to apply to though because my GCSEs aren’t great and a lot of them have requirements for it.
Most RG universities don’t have super high requirements for law. Some might ask for a 6 in English Language, but generally I haven’t seen many that either have requirements or have high ones (and by high I’m classing anything above a 5 as high). I’ve decided I’m not gonna apply to KCL since my LNAT practice has not been going well and the resources I need to improve will cost too much. As well as that, I’m not sure that any LNAT university would be my first choice (including Oxbridge) so it doesn’t really seem worth it. Nottingham and Manchester are great RG universities for law and neither of them have high GCSE requirements. They also have quite high levels of international students, so if that’s something you’re worried about, there are lots of options outside of London. I’m thinking of applying to them along with Warwick, York and Leeds. Good luck with your applications, hope everything works out for you!
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by MinabrnI’m in the same position! I’m in year 12 doing Business, English lang, and Psychology. I’m an international student and I want to apply to kings for 2025. I’d love to do law (M100). My A level predicted grades are A*AA but my gcses are 876555 due to external circumstances like moving country. I got a tutor for the LNAT as I know Russel Groups care about it. I don’t know what other RG unis to apply to though because my GCSEs aren’t great and a lot of them have requirements for it.
I'm also predicted an A*AA! I am also completing an EPQ which I will be predicted an A*/A. I'm not necessarily thinking about applying to KCL due to its high LNAT score but I'm seriously considering UCL as my top choice. My GCSEs were 9888887666, which obviously aren't the highest, but I would say don't worry about your GCSEs, as you can apply for a contextual offer. I also take English Lang! Which exam board are you? I'm looking at Queen Mary's as my other London university and they are not an LNAT uni however they are a RG and actually ranked 11th on The Guardian's list. If you would like to apply to London unis I would definitely look into QMUL as they have higher acceptance rates, and it is also a campus uni. What is your shortlist looking like so far?
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is KCL law cutoff score really 30? where did you guys get this info from? that sounds unbelievable
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by ifrelledis KCL law cutoff score really 30? where did you guys get this info from? that sounds unbelievable
There is no official cutoff score that KCL uses, but judging by the general trend amongst rejections vs acceptions, an average unofficial MCQ score of 30 was determined for the last admissions cycle. This may change and KCL may decide to be more lenient with the scores they accept this year. While it is all speculation, as KCL don’t actually detail their policy for LNAT scores, it can be inferred that KCL are more likely to place a heavier emphasis on high MCQ for two reasons. The first being that they don’t consider the essay section at all in the admissions process, meaning your essay performance won’t necessarily affect your decision. The second reason is that KCL is a heavily oversubscribed London university, with many applications from both home and international students that have to be sifted through each year. It would make sense if there were some internal procedure put in place to make sure that only the best candidates on paper are being considered for an offer (i.e. those with the appropriate grades, a high LNAT score, a good reference and strong personal statement). Again, the unofficial cutoff score is ultimately unofficial, so it can’t be said for sure that they will reject anyone who doesn’t score 30 on the LNAT, but this is something that happened very frequently last cycle.
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by AnonymousI do law at KCL. teaching is excellent here, and is comparable to UCL or LSE.
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
I’m an offer holder for KCL law (home student) and while it’s been my dream university for years the current rankings are giving me doubts about firming and whether waiting for UCL is a better choice? As a current student do you (or any other kcl law students) have any input on this? And what are the differences between KCL and UCL law
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by ExamYearsStudentI’m an offer holder for KCL law (home student) and while it’s been my dream university for years the current rankings are giving me doubts about firming and whether waiting for UCL is a better choice? As a current student do you (or any other kcl law students) have any input on this? And what are the differences between KCL and UCL law
What were your LNAT and predicted grades if you don't mind me asking?
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by studentsinaWhat were your LNAT and predicted grades if you don't mind me asking?
30 MCQ and (approximately) equivalent of A*A*A* in alternative exams
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by ExamYearsStudent30 MCQ and (approximately) equivalent of A*A*A* in alternative exams
Wow how did you achieve so highly on the LNAT - any advice would be greatly appreciated as I have mine next week. I find that theres limited resources as the website arbitio shut down and the actual LNAT website only has 1 practice test from 2010.
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by bibachuI'm currently a Year 12 student studying philosophy, psychology and politics and am thinking of applying to KCL for Law (LLB) in 2025. I've looked over the course thoroughly and I really like the look of it, even though it was hard to find the modules in depth! I'd love to know from any current students, past students or offer holders how they feel about KCL Law School and how it compares to other schools they were thinking of applying to. I'm from London so being in the city isn't something that intimidates me, nor does being surrounded by international students, as my college is quite diverse with a lot of international students already and I've made friends quite easily! Even if you didn't apply to KCL Law and maybe attended open days, it would be quite nice to know how you found them since I'll be attending their one in June.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
Hi Bibachu,
Glad to hear you're considering York! I thought I'd share a couple of details about what it's like to study Law at York in case it helps you with your decisions.
Studying Law at York is unique as we're the only Law school in the country to use problem-based learning as the basis of our teaching. This means that you approach and learn about the Law in a much more practical manner. You'll work in small student law firms to break down complex legal situations together, in a similar way to how an actual practicing lawyer might.
Here's a vlog from one of our first year students that breaks down what it's like to study with problem-based learning in a bit more detail. We believe problem-based learning helps our students to stand out to potential employers after they graduate, but we also offer a robust careers and development programme that gives you multiple opportunities throughout the year to develop your skills, network with employers and gain actual work experience. Check out more here.
In terms of accommodation, we have a wide range of different on-campus options covering our two campuses. There are options to suite all budgets and preferences, with a number of accommodation blocks very close to our Law School. I recommend having a look through here.
If you've got any more specific questions, I recommend reaching out to [email protected] - they'd be more than happy to have a chat.
Best of luck with your decision and I hope this was helpful,
J 🙂
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Can I ask what book or website is most representative to the actual exam? I heard the LawMind website is pretty accurate but in my opinion that’s too easy compared to the LNAT website sample paper and other things like The Big Book of LNAT Questions is much harder. Any help would be much appreciated
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by XxPhantomCan I ask what book or website is most representative to the actual exam? I heard the LawMind website is pretty accurate but in my opinion that’s too easy compared to the LNAT website sample paper and other things like The Big Book of LNAT Questions is much harder. Any help would be much appreciated
I personally think that LawMind is in fact much easier than the actual thing. The most comparable would defo be the actual past papers online. Nothing else is truly reflective of the real exam tbh. But if you want something harder than the real thing, try “LNAT new providence plus” (it’s Arbitio’s new name)
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by AnonymousI do law at KCL. teaching is excellent here, and is comparable to UCL or LSE.
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
It’s worth remembering that many internationals speak English as a second or third language, so a lower cutoff is understandable. If the LNAT were taken in most people’s second language, it’s unlikely scores would be as high. Still, money is a strong incentive for unis.
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Hey. I think this is me over thinking things but basically I called up LSE as they emailed me to give them access to my LNAT and long story short, I’m sure I already gave them access to it in the first place when I made my booking (which I sat in November btw). And on the phone I said like “oh I’m sure I put down UCL to have access to it”. And the admission’s person on the other end of the phone was like UCL?! All shocked and stuff. Plz don’t say this like lowers my chances of going to LSE as they are like rivals or whatever. They just sounded so like kinda annoyed and again I might be over thinking things but I’ve worked rly hard so I don’t want something stupid like this to screw anything up. Am I reading too much into it?
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by bibachuI'm currently a Year 12 student studying philosophy, psychology and politics and am thinking of applying to KCL for Law (LLB) in 2025. I've looked over the course thoroughly and I really like the look of it, even though it was hard to find the modules in depth! I'd love to know from any current students, past students or offer holders how they feel about KCL Law School and how it compares to other schools they were thinking of applying to. I'm from London so being in the city isn't something that intimidates me, nor does being surrounded by international students, as my college is quite diverse with a lot of international students already and I've made friends quite easily! Even if you didn't apply to KCL Law and maybe attended open days, it would be quite nice to know how you found them since I'll be attending their one in June.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
For reference, the other universities I want to apply to are Manchester, York, UCL and either Birmingham or Nottingham, all for the Law LLB course!
UPDATE: I sat an LNAT practice test and scored 23 (average score but way lower than what KCL want), so I'm reconsidering applying to any LNAT universities. I know I have loads of time to make up my mind, so I'll probably sit a few more practice tests in the coming months to see where I'm at and make a decision after open days.
Hi! I'm currently an LLB student (international) at KCL! I think the teaching is excellent and the faculty has a number of prolific and influential academics. Even the lecturers/Phd students that are less published I found were excellent in their teaching style and advice. I will say I have come to enjoy my degree much more in second year for several reasons: First year was quite a shock moving away from family, moving to a big city, having huge academic and career pressure (particularly the career pressure I had never thought would hit so fast), and also I found it very difficult to go from being consistently at the top of my class and get accepted to almost everything in highschool to become simply 'average' in the context of prestigious university at KCL. However, I've found my way, and I've become grateful for the personal challenge this has offered me.
My advice to you is whatever degree you do and wherever you do it, the more you put into it, the more you get out of it. One could easily go to Oxbridge and waste their time and money by not working. Another consideration is that the job market for law is extremely tight. The acceptance rates for most firms is 2-3%, and it put a huge toll on us law students. Also, applications begin in first year (open days and some summer scemes) and continue in second (vac schemes) and third (training contracts). In a way, unless your planning on getting phenomenal grades and being president of every student society, it's very challenging for employment. It might partially be because most of the group is international, but I think the British students have also found it very challenging. This is the main thing I was not prepared for coming here and honestly that I wish I had known.
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by AnonymousI do law at KCL. teaching is excellent here, and is comparable to UCL or LSE.
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
however, if you are a UK student, I would personally advise you don't apply to KCL. apply to LSE instead or somewhere else. reason being, is that the LNAT cut-off score for home students is 30. if you get below 30, they reject you, and this has been true for the current and last UCAS cycle. 30 is incredibly high, and very difficult to get, the average for every cohort that sits the LNAT being between 21-23 in the past few years. I'm a home student and was lucky enough to get over 30 and got into KCL. the cut-off score for internationals was lower, at 27. the reason for this favouring internationals is because universities want money.
admittedly UCL and LSE are just as hard to get into in general for law, but they don't have a strict and incredibly harsh cut-off score of 30 for home students, meaning it is probably harder to get into KCL than UCL or LSE for home students.
the LNAT btw is a test you'll have to sit for certain universities if you wish to study law. an aptitude test, not one based on knowledge. costs £70 to sit.
maybe you'll do really good and get over 30 though! who knows
Hi, with less international students coming because of Visa regulations and new laws, do you think this is still the case? and did KCL ever send you an email saying they didn't receive your LNAT?
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