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AQA A-level English Literature B Paper 2 (7717/2A-2B) - 5th June 2024 [Exam Chat]

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Reply 40
Original post by Sumirakakakaka
women came up in 2022 pretty sure


Yes in section c not b
Reply 41
Bro im stressing - ive had 3 tests this week , no rev for english and too tired to do it now? - I will wake up early to revise - but what should i do to use my time wisely?
Reply 42
is anyone else feeling completely and utterly cooked?!?!?! i feel like paper 1 i had so much more time to revise for but barely any time for my paper 2s and 3s
Reply 43
Yes thats me as well. And yh same i think i am screwed 💀💀💀
Reply 44
Anyone have any predictions for section B and C? I do rime of the ancient mariner, atonement and the murder of roger ackroyd.
Original post by Naijakid
Anyone have any predictions for section B and C? I do rime of the ancient mariner, atonement and the murder of roger ackroyd.

for mariner i swear the question is always a variation of whether he achieved forgiveness or not, so that's always a good one to consider. structure is a possibility, setting. the same for atonement. atonement we could also get robbie or the war
Atonement, Brighton Rock and Rime here.

I'm praying that Atonement features Robbie in some way, whether that's war, social class or just him as a character. He hasn't appeared for ages: perfect opportunity for Robbie to come after Cecilia last year, AQA :groovy:

For section C, a question on setting would be a real treat for me. Has also not appeared in a while. I'd quite like something that lets me focus on the end of the texts also. I'm honestly not a fan of Brighton Rock at all, so I'm hoping there is something simple, like last year's question on death.

What questions are you guys hoping for?
Reply 47
anyone do blake, dolls house and kite runner??
Original post by ladydracula
Atonement, Brighton Rock and Rime here.
I'm praying that Atonement features Robbie in some way, whether that's war, social class or just him as a character. He hasn't appeared for ages: perfect opportunity for Robbie to come after Cecilia last year, AQA :groovy:
For section C, a question on setting would be a real treat for me. Has also not appeared in a while. I'd quite like something that lets me focus on the end of the texts also. I'm honestly not a fan of Brighton Rock at all, so I'm hoping there is something simple, like last year's question on death.
What questions are you guys hoping for?

what could u talk about for robbie?
Original post by livviia
anyone do blake, dolls house and kite runner??

me!
Reply 50
Original post by ghaloasjmnasj
for mariner i swear the question is always a variation of whether he achieved forgiveness or not, so that's always a good one to consider. structure is a possibility, setting. the same for atonement. atonement we could also get robbie or the war

Thanks. Do u have any predictions for the comparison questions please?
Original post by ladydracula
Atonement, Brighton Rock and Rime here.
I'm praying that Atonement features Robbie in some way, whether that's war, social class or just him as a character. He hasn't appeared for ages: perfect opportunity for Robbie to come after Cecilia last year, AQA :groovy:
For section C, a question on setting would be a real treat for me. Has also not appeared in a while. I'd quite like something that lets me focus on the end of the texts also. I'm honestly not a fan of Brighton Rock at all, so I'm hoping there is something simple, like last year's question on death.
What questions are you guys hoping for?

do you have any resources for all three of these!??! im desperate please!1
Reply 52
Original post by livviia
anyone do blake, dolls house and kite runner??

i do blake and TKR
Reply 53
im praying aqa are feeling merciful after that paper 1... friendship or happiness IN TRAGEDY?!?!?!
Original post by ladydracula
Atonement, Brighton Rock and Rime here.
I'm praying that Atonement features Robbie in some way, whether that's war, social class or just him as a character. He hasn't appeared for ages: perfect opportunity for Robbie to come after Cecilia last year, AQA :groovy:
For section C, a question on setting would be a real treat for me. Has also not appeared in a while. I'd quite like something that lets me focus on the end of the texts also. I'm honestly not a fan of Brighton Rock at all, so I'm hoping there is something simple, like last year's question on death.
What questions are you guys hoping for?

Praying section B might be guilt in atonement, maybe something on Briony, going to plan for a Robbie Q tonight. Section C if it’s setting it’ll be bliss bc there’s loads to say for Brighton rock and The Rime I think idk 😭
Original post by ghaloasjmnasj
what could u talk about for robbie?

Depending on the question, I'd say there's 3 Robbie-themed arguments you can make: victim of war, victim of class, victim of Briony. They all sort of intertwine imo.

For war, you can talk about how Robbie was conscripted because he was sentenced as a criminal, yet another consequence of Briony's accusation, and all he endures. There's a lot to say about all the graphic horrors he sees, the futility of his journey to Dunkirk, his spiralling madness as his septicaemia gets worse and his persistent longing for Cecilia.

For a class argument, basically he serves the punishment on behalf of a middle-class man. He's a scapegoat, and is wrongfully accused of a crime because it's something that would be 'typical' of his class. You can also comment on how he's now serving in a war that Paul Marshall is profiting from (Amo bars), essentially how the lower classes are expendable- something for the rich to invest in.

Briony ruins Robbie's life, essentially. Towards the end of Part 1, when he returns with the twins, her motivation for incriminating Robbie becomes clear- she's spun a narrative of him as a maniac, and seeing him act 'heroic' puts that under threat. It makes her testify harder that she 'saw him.' The strength of Briony's accusation follows Robbie into the war, where he still harbours a lot of hate for her: he genuinely hates her to a point of near absurdity. You could also speak on the relationship between Robbie and Cecilia, misinterpreted by Briony which causes her narrative of heroes and victims to begin. As an extension, you could even say she doesn't even leave him alone after his death, still manipulating the story of his life through the fact that Atonement itself is 'her' writing.
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Original post by ladydracula
Depending on the question, I'd say there's 3 Robbie-themed arguments you can make: victim of war, victim of class, victim of Briony. They all sort of intertwine imo.
For war, you can talk about how Robbie was conscripted because he was sentenced as a criminal, yet another consequence of Briony's accusation, and all he endures. There's a lot to say about all the graphic horrors he sees, the futility of his journey to Dunkirk, his spiralling madness as his septicaemia gets worse and his persistent longing for Cecilia.
For a class argument, basically he serves the punishment on behalf of a middle-class man. He's a scapegoat, and is wrongfully accused of a crime because it's something that would be 'typical' of his class. You can also comment on how he's now serving in a war that Paul Marshall is profiting from (Amo bars), essentially how the lower classes are expendable- something for the rich to invest in.
Briony ruins Robbie's life, essentially. Towards the end of Part 1, when he returns with the twins, her motivation for incriminating Robbie becomes clear- she's spun a narrative of him as a maniac, and seeing him act 'heroic' puts that under threat. It makes her testify harder that she 'saw him.' The strength of Briony's accusation follows Robbie into the war, where he still harbours a lot of hate for her: he genuinely hates her to a point of near absurdity. You could also speak on the relationship between Robbie and Cecilia, misinterpreted by Briony which causes her narrative of heroes and victims to begin. As an extension, you could even say she doesn't even leave him alone after his death, still manipulating the story of his life through the fact that Atonement itself is 'her' writing.

thank u sm ❤️
Original post by ladydracula
Depending on the question, I'd say there's 3 Robbie-themed arguments you can make: victim of war, victim of class, victim of Briony. They all sort of intertwine imo.
For war, you can talk about how Robbie was conscripted because he was sentenced as a criminal, yet another consequence of Briony's accusation, and all he endures. There's a lot to say about all the graphic horrors he sees, the futility of his journey to Dunkirk, his spiralling madness as his septicaemia gets worse and his persistent longing for Cecilia.
For a class argument, basically he serves the punishment on behalf of a middle-class man. He's a scapegoat, and is wrongfully accused of a crime because it's something that would be 'typical' of his class. You can also comment on how he's now serving in a war that Paul Marshall is profiting from (Amo bars), essentially how the lower classes are expendable- something for the rich to invest in.
Briony ruins Robbie's life, essentially. Towards the end of Part 1, when he returns with the twins, her motivation for incriminating Robbie becomes clear- she's spun a narrative of him as a maniac, and seeing him act 'heroic' puts that under threat. It makes her testify harder that she 'saw him.' The strength of Briony's accusation follows Robbie into the war, where he still harbours a lot of hate for her: he genuinely hates her to a point of near absurdity. You could also speak on the relationship between Robbie and Cecilia, misinterpreted by Briony which causes her narrative of heroes and victims to begin. As an extension, you could even say she doesn't even leave him alone after his death, still manipulating the story of his life through the fact that Atonement itself is 'her' writing.

are there any quotes in atonement, not necessarily robbie but just generally good quotes with a lot of analysis for them?
Original post by Sumirakakakaka
Praying section B might be guilt in atonement, maybe something on Briony, going to plan for a Robbie Q tonight. Section C if it’s setting it’ll be bliss bc there’s loads to say for Brighton rock and The Rime I think idk 😭

I'd happily take a question on guilt! Briony/Paul Marshall focused for sure.

For setting in Rime, I'd talk about it being atypical for a crime text. The ship is at the mercy of nature/setting until the albatross comes, amplifying how severe the killing is. The setting becomes a punishment/judgement after the albatross is shot: ship being still, hellish imagery with the copper sun/sky and the undrinkable water. I usually do 2 paras on each text so I'm hoping to do surface level Brighton/the slums then pre/post albatross killing lmao
Original post by ghaloasjmnasj
are there any quotes in atonement, not necessarily robbie but just generally good quotes with a lot of analysis for them?

Not necessarily quotes, but the first chapter of the book, namely the first few pages which introduce Trials of Arabella, Lola, Briony's imagination and her thoughts about writing, are really valuable imo. They're really accessible in the exam since you don't have to flick through the book to find them, and they are great to apply to any points about foreshadowing.

The Trials of Arabella is a love story, which alludes to Robbie/Cecilia's relationship and how Briony will control it. Lola is further into adulthood than Briony, her appearance is much more mature and it causes some jealousy and a need for her to expose herself to adult topics, she gets her confidence to convict Robbie from the new things she learns. Anything about her needing control, wanting to create precise stories, is a direct foreshadowing of the fact that she has control over the whole narrative.

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